1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

tschmidty

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Not to beat the battery thread, but the kicker has a pull start so why would even a second battery be an absolute requirement? Yeah it's nice, but everything dies, you can fire the kicker which would power any running lights at least and get you back, or am I missing something? But all things considered if you have room a second battery is nice. If it's just an emergency battery, you could probably get away with smaller than a class 24.
 

woodnknots

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I've got the 1978 outboard version of that boat. I love it! If you wind up replacing any rivets, let me know how you do it. I have no desire to tear out my interior to get a bucking bar in there. I'm looking at some marine type pop rivets.
 

jasoutside

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Not to beat the battery thread, but the kicker has a pull start so why would even a second battery be an absolute requirement? Yeah it's nice, but everything dies, you can fire the kicker which would power any running lights at least and get you back, or am I missing something? But all things considered if you have room a second battery is nice. If it's just an emergency battery, you could probably get away with smaller than a class 24.

Yah, I agree for the most part. I think a starting batt to get the Merc V6 up and running and a deep cell to handle nav lights, blower, VHF, GPS/FF and downriggers. If I didn't have the downriggers I really think I'd be fine with just the starting batt.

I know some of my iboats buds here have recommended 3 batts, I dunno??:confused:

I've got the 1978 outboard version of that boat. I love it! If you wind up replacing any rivets, let me know how you do it. I have no desire to tear out my interior to get a bucking bar in there. I'm looking at some marine type pop rivets.

OB Islander is a rare animal, great find!!:D:D

I only had one bad rivet so I was very fortunate there. Sorry I can't be all that helpful for ya. In my readings I believe I have seen solid rivets that can be installed from the outside, maybe? I might be making that up too:rolleyes:
 

jasoutside

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Well I got about half what I what I really wanted to get completed by the weekend. Man am I slow.

So here is my flotation set up, noodles, foam board, empty containers from laundry soap, motor oil, ATF, Antifreeze, and a bunch of other stuff (all rinsed and dried out mind you). I even had a Spiderman Bubble Bath bottle in there. Bottom feeder flotation guys...
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I "back buttered" a piece of alum flatstock with PL and riveted it to the first piece of deck that was already in place. I wanted that nice thick layer of PL in there to prevent any water getting in between the wood and alum.
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PL in the seam, and riveted down...
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The last pieces of the deck will need to be another day, bummer.

Oh well, progress is progress:)
 

boatguy94

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That is the most colorfull flotation I have ever seen :D. Lookin good!
 

fat fanny

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J you are truly the king of inginuity!!!!!! Whatever it takes right
 

Azlo

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For a second I thought u had taken pics of grocery shopping. No really, your tin is gonna float, even in a Katrina. I like it.
 

Huron Angler

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That's a lot of displacement and positive buoyancy going on. The rig will not even be able to take on much water below decks.

Between that, and the two huge gas tanks in the bow, I'd say you are a few steps ahead of the game on flotation...and way ahead on resourcefulness.:D
 

jasoutside

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J you are truly the king of inginuity!!!!!! Whatever it takes right

"Ingenuity?":rolleyes:

"Whatever it takes?" Yah, I'd say so.

Thanks for the kind words fanny! You are a good man to try and make me feel better about my flotation methods my friend:D

For a second I thought u had taken pics of grocery shopping. No really, your tin is gonna float, even in a Katrina. I like it.

Yah, kinda reminds me of walking around in WalMart. I hate walking around in WalMart. I need to cover this up before EZ gets nauseous.

That's a lot of displacement and positive buoyancy going on. The rig will not even be able to take on much water below decks.

Between that, and the two huge gas tanks in the bow, I'd say you are a few steps ahead of the game on flotation...and way ahead on resourcefulness.:D

Plus I'll have that giant cooler!

Hey, you ever grab hold of a big laundry soap bottle (or something like it) and try to swim to the bottom of the lake/pool? Major boyancy, eh. I was thinking about that as I was putting together the jigsaw of containers subdeck there. So far I have roughly three big rubbermaid storage totes worth in there not to mention the noodles and foam board. I kinda think that is a lot of displacement for little $$:D

And, I have yet to put flotation behind the side curtains (foam board) and gunwales (noodles). I think she'll be pretty tough to sink.

Hey, I sold those trashed helm seats from the Baja for $50 so that's cool. It was either that or recover and use them for right about $500. They were comfortable seats but not worth that much to me.
 

irishmedic6

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Looking great my friend.....can't wait until it's time for my decking.....Thanks for thinking outside the box for us on limited budgets!
 

jasoutside

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So I went back at my old photos just to see how much snow there was at this time last year.

Yah, there was still plenty.

Interesting though...

Almost exactly this time last year I was tearing out the old deck...
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While my noodle/container/foam board is pretty ugly it's still not as bad as this ^^^.

How sad is it that it has taken me one full year to get this deck back in. Embarrassing.:redface:

Also this time one year ago I was chopping up a glasser...
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And now I have another...
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Though, somebody might haul this one away for me:)
 

Deadwood

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How sad is it that it has taken me one full year to get this deck back in. Embarrassing.:redface:

As I remember you've had plenty of (family) things that tried to sidetrack you but you still persevere. You have been, and continue to be, an inspiration to us as I know your family has been an inspiration to you. When the great day to launch arrives it will be with all our blessings.;)
(Oh yeah Jas, you dingleberry...now you've got me wanting to rip up the floor and add empty soap jugs to get my arse end up a little higher..:D)
 

Triton II

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Hey Jason, you been watching too much Sesame Street with all those colours... I know, it's a dive in the coloured plastic balls kids' room - marine style! ::eek: :D

TII
 

proshadetree

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Wow with all those colors under that floor I almost passed out. No way a plastic bottle will take on water. Can you imagine what someone will think if they pull that floor out? Too cool man. I might have to do flotation in my next boat. Thanks to you no way will it be no foam.
 

MaddysDaddy

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nice progress! are those bottles secure? that may be noisy. is there plenty of room for expansion? i know its cold where your at, in the summer when heats up those bottles are gonna expand alot. i hope that doesnt put pressure on the deck. but i love the idea, free, easy, and clean. i will probley follow suit on mine.

-MD
 

jasoutside

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When the great day to launch arrives it will be with all our blessings.;)

Thanks DW, much appreciated! Man, the day she floats is going to be sweeeeet! Guaranteed perma grin:D

Hey Jason, you been watching too much Sesame Street with all those colours

Yah buddy, I need to get that covered up ASAP!

I might have to do flotation in my next boat. Thanks to you no way will it be no foam.

I have stewed on foam for glassers. As I see it, pour in foam is the way to go, BUT, it would have to be completely, absolutely, totally, 100% sealed. Water should never, ever, make it's way sub deck. Knowwhattamean?

nice progress! are those bottles secure? that may be noisy. is there plenty of room for expansion? i know its cold where your at, in the summer when heats up those bottles are gonna expand alot. i hope that doesnt put pressure on the deck. but i love the idea, free, easy, and clean. i will probley follow suit on mine.

-MD

Yah, the juggs are all in there fine. They can wiggle and expand but are pretty well surrounded by noodles and such so there shouldn't be a whole lot of rattling.

MD (and anybody else who is thinking about going this route) - I don't think I would recommend it. Why? Here are my thoughts...

The containers are great for a couple of reasons. They will never saturate, ever. They were free, I really like that. The displacement relative to their weight is excellent.

The containers are not so great for a couple of reasons. They leave voids and they are a big hassle to try and fit.

If I were to hit the do over I'd probably fill this boat with nearly all noodles. Take a serrated bread knife and they are a breeze to cut, manipulate and fit. It probably took me 10x longer to fit all that stuff than it would have had I simply gone all noodles. If the Dollar Tree had them in stock I would have went and bought another couple of boxes. But they don't yet have them and I already had the containers on hand, so in they went.

Honestly, I think the only reasonable application those jugs would have is where there are really big spaces to fill. In this Islander, the bow most hatch is a good example. Midships bilge area might be another. In my case the fuel tanks took up most of the space midships. Anybody who is rebuilding anything shorter than 22' I'd say don't even bother with it.

I also didn't care too much working with the foam board. I'd rather work with noodles in that case too. I think behind my side curtains will be a great spot for the pink/blue foam board. Nice, long, flat, straight runs for that stuff.

I hope that helps!:)

Cheers guys!
 

dozerII

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Okay Jas, I'll bite, what is with the 4winns, and why do you have it for someone to haula away?:rolleyes:
 

jasoutside

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Okay Jas, I'll bite, what is with the 4winns, and why do you have it for someone to haula away?:rolleyes:

New ride for the Jet Star;) The 4Winns just happens to be sitting on it at the moment.
 

Wrongsyde

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Hey all.

Just got an ad flyer from Cabela's... Great Outdoors Days sale, and being a spring sale have a bunch of their boat stuff on sale, batteries, chargers, riggers, list goes on. Goes thru March 13th, might be worth checking them out. The one that got me was for my local store one day only (Post Falls, ID) for a group 27 deep cycle marked from 125 down to $80.

Anyway, keep up the good work, Jas. I can't wait to see that deck sealed up and painted!
 
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