1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

ezmobee

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I like the greater "get you home in an emergency"-ness of an outboard kicker.
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I like the greater "get you home in an emergency"-ness of an outboard kicker.

Agreed! Pros and cons, pros and cons...

On a similar note...

I was at my local "everything is uber expensive" marine store and saw an ad for one of those boat tow insurance deals....

Something like $60/year for a tow back to civilization. Also said if you add like $15 they will also cover a tow for my truck and trailer on the road. That seems like great piece of mind, especially for a polar opposite of professional boat builder like myself:redface:
 

Huron Angler

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

The draw to that MinnKota is that it's completely silent, very nice!

It's been pretty well established that walleye are attracted to 2-stroke kickers, those high-tech electric motors will drive the fish away:p:D

Either way it's a win-win, the dependability and versatility of a small kicker is sweet though, I love being able to take my 5.5 off the SS and be on the river in my 12 footer in minutes.:)

I'm pretty sure the rig would like an older OMC kicker, it would remind it of the good old days when her OMC factory motor was brand-new:D
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I would consider a gas kicker too. Of course your boat being so big makes me think an electric motor wouldn't even be possible. (unless you are talking the engine mount M/K which are available up to 101lb.

The last V boat I had was a 16ft tracker. It was only 16ft something, but was a "bigger" boat than allot of the ones we are because of the width, and depth. I had an 8hp Merc kicker, and used it a bunch.
In fact the Merc 50hp that was on it, was a complete PITA to start when cold, and a few times I said the heck with it and used the kicker. It was also great for "backtrolling" into the wind When doing this I wasn't really trolling but casting. And would fish from the back, use the Powerdrive pedal in conjunction with the kicker to go into the wind backwards.

As much as it stinks to go through so much hassle by going into the wind, I think it makes a difference in contacting fish. At least Muskies.

I'm going to put a kicker bracket on my boat, since I have one, and the wholes are there already too. And buy a kicker later down the road.


Edit: A couple other things. Since you have a permanent tank, and no pre-mix, a 4 stroke kicker is the way to go. That is what I did and am glad I did. 2 stroke oil injected outboard, and a 4 stroke kicker so you can run from the same fuel source. And the extra quiet is nice too.

Also keep in mind that a multi cylinder kicker will be much smoother than the single cylinder kickers. Mine was a single and felt it was fine, but I guess it does make a difference in smoothness.
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I'm pretty sure the rig would like an older OMC kicker, it would remind it of the good old days when her OMC factory motor was brand-new:D

Trust me my friend, all remnants, memories, thoughts and feelings of that OMC Stringer are long gone.:D

I know you appreciate the simplicity of those little 12 foot tin boats eh! Yah, me too. Course for me, now that I have that Jet at 15' I feel far less compelled to grab a little one. I pretty well have my water covered, happy dude:)

unless you are talking the engine mount M/K which are available up to 101lb.
Yah, that was kinda what I was thinking

a 4 stroke kicker is the way to go

Yah, that would be super nice. Albeit very $$$ for a bottom feeder like me.
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

FWIW, I'm no fisherman, but the guy I bought my boat from was. He had a 9.9 kicker on the transom along side the big Evinrude and he had a MK bow mounted trolling motor. The MK didn't work when I got it so I took it off and pitched it. I have to assume if the MK was enough to push my hull around that one you have picked out should push yours around just fine.

As far as the 9.9, I'm going to put it back on just because I have it and it just clamps on the transom. It may look a little silly being I don't fish, but I think it would be silly to leave it at home.
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Yah, that would be super nice. Albeit very $$$ for a bottom feeder like me.


If you think it is something you would want to consider in the future call up D&R sports in Kalamazoo. That is where I got my 8hp merc and got it for like $800. Was only a few years old and ran like a champ. You could probably find cheaper, but buying from them means that the oil has been changed and it runs like a champ, so you can just clamp it on and go.
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I'm no fisherman

Me neither. Every once in a while a fish will accidentally bump into my hook. Claiming to be a fisherman helps justify the rebuild of this rig though!:D

Yah, that little 9.9 rude you have is sweet!

You could probably find cheaper

Yah, if there is a deal to be had, I can prolly find it:D
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

When I say I'm no fisherman, I mean I don't even drop a hook in the water......
 

jasoutside

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When I say I'm no fisherman, I mean I don't even drop a hook in the water......

All that means is that you are smarter than guys like me. Downriggers, rods, reels, tackle, fuel, and on, and on. Divided up by the fish I bring home:facepalm:

Your fish dinner at even the fanciest restaurants is a bargain!

Well, plus you have that ultra cool V5 hull:cool:
 

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All that means is that you are smarter than guys like me. Downriggers, rods, reels, tackle, fuel, and on, and on. Divided up by the fish I bring home:facepalm:

Your fish dinner at even the fanciest restaurants is a bargain!

Well, plus you have that ultra cool V5 hull:cool:

Oh, that's the other thing, I don't even like fish :eek: so it's a win win for me.
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Keep an eye peeled for an older Honda 8 horse long shaft.
Heck of a motor and easy to work on.
OP?s have problems with the carb gumming up and want to dump them.
Find one with good compression and you are set.
I picked one up for a 200 and have had great success with it.
Been running it for three years and so far no problem that I could not fix.
I pull the carb every six months and clean it with no need for a rebuild kit.
GLG
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

It's been pretty well established that walleye are attracted to 2-stroke kickers, those high-tech electric motors will drive the fish away:p:D


I haven't seen that study,...But I do believe that the electric scares fish in shallow water situatons,.....Concluded from hundereds of hours of hard core research!!
 

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The EM54 I have will not push my 18' Chief with much wind blowing... the wind catches the bow and steering is useless. It is AWESOME for trolling in calm waters or breezy conditions. I love the silence as well. The first time out my old '69 Johnny quit and the 50-60 MPH winds left me stranded until 1 am when it died down.. I'll never forget that trip!!! We beached the boat, hiked back to my Jeep and drove to some little restaurant for dinner just as they were closing. When we got back to the lake, the wind was gone, so we had our chance to get the boat out. We hiked back to the boat and navigated through dead wood stick-ups with a little flashlight and that MK motor. What a blast....AFTER it was over of course!!! That poor guy Chris has never gone fishin with me again!! :)
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Ok, ok....

So let's talk this through for a sec.....

Let's say I get the gas kicker. And as long as we are pretending, just for fun, lets say I got one of these...

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Nice, eh!

Now, given that my energy needs are so low can I now comfortably run this rig with one battery? I believe I can. I'd bring along one of those portable battery jumper packs just in case. Or, I suppose I could always bring a back up battery and throw it in the font hatch. That would be fine too.

I am thinking that I'll almost always be running the main motor. I think the kicker would come out in an emergency or if I just couldn't get slow enough for the 2.5mph the walleye prefer.

This makes a big difference to me. If I can just go with one batt I'd be fine installing it back on the transom. I just didn't want to do two or three on the transom, I wasn't feeling good about that. With one battery, my doghouse build would be a fair amount smaller and I'd have the extra space on the deck too. Having less weight in the boat is appealing too.

Thoughts? Love to hear em!
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Jas, I never have fished the "Big Water" like you gents but I have a bunch of experience with electric trolling motors bass fishing all day. The problem with electrics is weight (3 batteries) and if you are in a strong wind you will run 'em down quick. I like the gas kicker idea due to the fact you can run it all day on little fuel, and it can get you back home where maybe not an electric if you are offshore a ways. Add to that the drag factor on your lower unit with that motor you posted..and I wouldnt have a choice to make. Go with the OB.;)
 

ezmobee

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I can't see why you'd more than one battery if you were running a kicker.
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Even with a kicker, you should run two batteries if you are running any accessories at all. They can be switches so you can start the motor with the auxillary battery, if the starter battery ever went dead. ie left the key on by mistake, nav lights left on by a young bored fisherman. Just my 2 cents
Glen
 
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