1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

captainQ

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

That tank is very nice Jas ! Looks like you are moving along smartly !

Can you get those tanks new still ? Even for a 16' boat ?
 

jasoutside

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Thanks wrongside, appreciate it buddy.

Port Hinchinbrook marina has been wiped off the map.

Wow. Scary stuff man, take care TII!

That tank is very nice Jas ! Looks like you are moving along smartly !

Can you get those tanks new still ? Even for a 16' boat ?

Thanks Q! Oh yah there are new ones out there, and man are they $$$! You'd have to get just the right size to get one below deck in a 16 footer.

Thanks for stopping by!:)
 

jcupo6

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I think it looks better with the pools noodles anyway! ;) They work so well it's almost like this is what they were made for. Man, you're almost done with this beast, do you have an estimated splash date yet?
 

jasoutside

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I think it looks better with the pools noodles anyway! ;) They work so well it's almost like this is what they were made for. Man, you're almost done with this beast, do you have an estimated splash date yet?

Oh gosh Jerry. Remember, I still have the big V6 to run through all the maintenance stuff and install.

I'm not big on making time lines for this boat as it always takes me twice as long as I think to do anything. All the same, with the way things are around my place, I'd say this rig might be done just in time to winterize again. Ballpark.

I do like making just short lists though so I can see the next few steps in front of me, so here is one...

1. Run gasket around all the holes I cut to protect the fuel lines
2. Clamp up the fuel lines
3. Plan/layout the plumbing for the fish box/livewell
4. Secure the 28 gal fuel tank
5. Finish up aluminum decking/stringer structure
6. Finish laying in all the foam flotation

Then on to the deck.

Have a good one guys!
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Well, I got a couple of small things done...

I found a set of old supply lines for a washing machine in my plumbing box and they made great gasket. Free too, like that!

Port side...
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Starboard side...
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This one is for fishbox/livewell plumbing...
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I grabbed a handful of those ladder steps and riveted those down too...
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That worked out really well! That was free too! Man I love not spending $$.

The steps were just the right height and I could just barely fit my riveter in there to catch the rib. I only did the port side as that is where the fishbox/livewell will go, starboard will be simple storage.

I wanted to give some additional support for the weight of the box with water/ice/fish in there. Well, ok with the amount of fish I catch I will never need that additional support so just water/ice. Maybe if I can convince bcast to go for a ride in the Islander I can fill that box with fish:D
 

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I'm thinking some of you guys are probably :confused::facepalm::rolleyes: at my backyard, redneck boat building materials and techniques! That's ok, I deserve it, it's all good:D

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OK, so how about some opinions on the fishbox/livewell...

Lately I have been thinking that it may not be worth the trouble to plumb up a water supply pump. My thoughts are that it would be that much extra stuff (plumbing line, wiring, pump) to account for and have potential problems with on down the road.

Really, the only time I'll be saving fish is when the kiddos want to watch them swimming around in there. In that case I can just throw a few buckets of water in. Any other time I am throwing them back or putting them on ice for a fresh fish dinner, ya know.

I suppose if I ever want to keep fish in there for any length of time I can just let the water drain out and throw in some more buckets of water. Or, just add a bubbler - I think Glenn may have suggested that a little ways back.

I'll definitely have a drain line running from the box to the old bilge drain at the transom.

I can see if I were a bass fisherman in tournaments or something that would be a no brainer. Course, in that case I'd have a different boat too. A bass fisherman with an Islander would be silly.

Anybody have any super special reasons to have a livewell pump installed that I am not thinking of?

Cheers!
 

captainQ

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I'm thinking some of you guys are probably :confused::facepalm::rolleyes: at my backyard, redneck boat building materials and techniques! That's ok, I deserve it, it's all good:D

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OK, so how about some opinions on the fishbox/livewell...

Lately I have been thinking that it may not be worth the trouble to plumb up a water supply pump. My thoughts are that it would be that much extra stuff (plumbing line, wiring, pump) to account for and have potential problems with on down the road.

Really, the only time I'll be saving fish is when the kiddos want to watch them swimming around in there. In that case I can just throw a few buckets of water in. Any other time I am throwing them back or putting them on ice for a fresh fish dinner, ya know.

I suppose if I ever want to keep fish in there for any length of time I can just let the water drain out and throw in some more buckets of water. Or, just add a bubbler - I think Glenn may have suggested that a little ways back.

I'll definitely have a drain line running from the box to the old bilge drain at the transom.

I can see if I were a bass fisherman in tournaments or something that would be a no brainer. Course, in that case I'd have a different boat too. A bass fisherman with an Islander would be silly.

Anybody have any super special reasons to have a livewell pump installed that I am not thinking of?

Cheers!


Hey Jas, I believe you won't need a pump either. Livewells are for keeping fish alive for a while then tossing them back, so like you said if your not a bass tourney guy it's a waste. The only good point for having one is keeping bait fresh.

My Smoker craft had 2 livewells and they never got used and took up a lot of useable space. A cooler with ice is a better way to keep fish fresh for eating. If it were me I'd scrape the whole fish box idea to keep the boat as open as possible, coolers can be removed when not needed.

For me I take a cooler for food and drinks, if I catch something to keep it goes in that cooler.

Good luck :D
 

jcupo6

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I agree, I wouldn't spend to much time or money into fabricating a livewell, I used to have one in a Basstracker and hardly ever used it. Besides, if you realize that you want one down the road just make one out of a cooler.

http://www.tinboats.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14582&start=0

I would however LOVE to see your Islander running with the bass boats during the next Bassmaster tournament!!
 

Huron Angler

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Maybe a manual pump as used in canoes and kayaks will work to fill it up when you need to.

I'm sure you've got one lying around, being an ex-kayaker:)

Since you are plumbing that box with a drain, then it will be a perfect cooler/fish well.

I agree that keeping walleyes and perch on ice for eating is always best. We will find some fish out there on way or another and get that box filled up:D

As always, very nice work using random materials to get the job done with those grommets.
 

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1. Run gasket around all the holes I cut to protect the fuel lines
2. Clamp up the fuel lines
3. Plan/layout the plumbing for the fish box/livewell
4. Secure the 28 gal fuel tank
5. Finish up aluminum decking/stringer structure
6. Finish laying in all the foam flotation

AND......

7. Meet Doug in OR for some early springer Chinook action in March.
(Hope the weather cooperates this time!:eek:)

Jas, remind me where the fish box is going to be placed?
I'd like one too but that 160+/- qt Igloo I found for $25 in the classifieds works well. A little push and it noses up in bow like it belongs there. ;)
Oh yeah, been aimin' some prayers your direction.....and to our mates down under as well.
 

jasoutside

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Thanks for weighing in guys! OK, enough stewing on that. This is now a fishbox and not a live well. Cool, good decision guys!

Yah, I really won't need to fabricate too much as I have this giant cooler that I'll just frame the seat boxes around...
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I'll just run a drain line sub deck back to the original transom drain. Should do the trick nicely!:D

HA - Yah, I still have a whole box of those bilge pumps laying around. A collapsible bucket like yo should foot the bill to fill that cooler with water if I want to...
http://www.rei.com/product/782974

DW - Thanks for the encouragement buddy. The fish box will be on the port side just like the photo above there. All boxed in and finished off nicely (I hope so anyway). Man, I'd love to be out your way for the spring run!!!:D:D
 

Triton II

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Good thinking Jason. I have a livewell in my boat that's designed for keeping baitfish alive... we use it as a dishwasher! Coolers are the way to go and I ALWAYS come back with way less in the cooler than I set off with! (Yup, I'm cr@p at fishing!) Cheers mate,

TII
 

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You could always not put the cooler inside the boat. Build a platform on the transom above the outdrive and throw it on there. Thats what I did, saves lots of room in the boat. Northwoods sells kits for mounting coolers.;)
 

jasoutside

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we use it as a dishwasher! Coolers are the way to go and I ALWAYS come back with way less in the cooler than I set off with! (Yup, I'm cr@p at fishing!) Cheers mate,

TII

Dude! I am putting this boat together with the goal of heading out on the water, to avoid doing dishes! Your lady makes you take the dishes with! Ugh.

Hey, when you fill the cooler with sandwiches and cookies, it's all good to come back with less:D

You could always not put the cooler inside the boat. Build a platform on the transom above the outdrive and throw it on there. Thats what I did, saves lots of room in the boat. Northwoods sells kits for mounting coolers.;)

Well, I'll be installing seat boxes anyway so I am thinking I might as well have one of them be a fish box eh!

I do plan to build a swim platform on down the road though.

Cheers guys!:)
 

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OK, little bit of progress...

I laminated some blocks of foam together to serve as mounts for the 28 gal fuel tank...
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I then cut them to size , wedged them in, and mounted to the stringers with SS bolts...
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I am really happy with how that came out. I was originally going to go with epoxied wood for mounting blocks but going this way saved me a whole bunch of time and brought in a little extra flotation too. I grabbed hold of that tank and yanked something fierce, she isn't moving, not even a wiggle.

Then I wedged in some more foam on the sides and started laying some across the top. You can see on the lower left the rough location of my fish box drain line there...
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All right, so then I added these beauties in...
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I am completely open to your harassment and hazing, so feel free!

Filled in behind the soap bottles with foam...
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I am finding that where the pink foam is wedged real tight against aluminum or itself I get the loud squeaks. Against noodles or bottles, no squeak, so the mix of materials works well. Pink foam laid loose no squeaks either. I then laid down these thin layers of white foam that I pulled out of some old junk PFD's that came out of Thumper the Baja. The deck should just barely come in contact with them, so no squeaks...
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OK, well, I think at least the front half of the hull is ready for decking - cool!
 

jasoutside

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Man am I glad that I waited to paint the topside till all this rebuild stuff is done...
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Look'in good Jas!

You are a resourceful dude!
 

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Looks Great Jas. A few suggestions (if I may)..how about takeing all the jugs and filling them with the expanding foam. You know, the kind outa the can, (6 bucks maybe?). That would make them sturdier and probably more bouant. Also where you mounted the foam blocks to the stringer @ the gas tank, make sure none of the bolts are touching the tank. Vibration later on could possibly rub a hole in the tank.
One last thing ( I think this was discussed) have you thought about a wash down hose? You could hook up a pump for that and that also is a source for water for the fishbox if needed.
Enjoy your tenacity and resourcefullness. You Da Man.:D
 

jasoutside

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Look'in good Jas!

You are a resourceful dude!

Bottom feeder budget breeds creativity my friend;)

For good, bad or otherwise.

Looks Great Jas. A few suggestions (if I may)..how about takeing all the jugs and filling them with the expanding foam. You know, the kind outa the can, (6 bucks maybe?). That would make them sturdier and probably more bouant. Also where you mounted the foam blocks to the stringer @ the gas tank, make sure none of the bolts are touching the tank. Vibration later on could possibly rub a hole in the tank.
One last thing ( I think this was discussed) have you thought about a wash down hose? You could hook up a pump for that and that also is a source for water for the fishbox if needed.
Enjoy your tenacity and resourcefullness. You Da Man.:D

Not a bad thought on the foam. I think it would be more $$ though. I think I'd go through quite a few cans filling those bottles, one can for every two/three bottles would be my rough guess. I spose if I spend the extra $$ for that I might as well just buy noodles ya know.

The SS bolts actually go through the mounting plates/holes on the tank then through the stringer. They are small but you can just make them out, there are six of them.

I think for a deck wash down I'll just go with a collapsible bucket and a scrub brush. Simple, nothing to break, wire, plumb or maintain and fits right into my el cheapo budget:D
 

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Please get the deck installed soon so I don't have to look at that mess anymore :p:p:p I wouldn't fill those bottles with foam. More money, less buoyancy (unless they leak which is doubtful, and costs money.
 
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