1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Some free fuel lines from the Baja would've really been the icing on the cake on that salvage.

I really want to scrap a glasser to get parts from since I've you and Alpheus have shown how great the pillaging can be

Are you going to have dual fuel gauges on the dash now?

 

[LonLB]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

If there is a local farm transfer hose or hydraulic hose builder or company near you call them and check.

It's not marine fuel fill hose, but napa does carry flexible fuel hose in the sizes you will need...

If you don't need a bunch, and there is a local boat builder, ask them....They throw away a bunch of the stuff, and might have a piece you could use.
I've thrown away hundreds if not thousands of pieces as long as EZ has, if not double that length or more.

They can't use it, and can't send it back for credit.


Wherever you position the fuel fill, keep in mind that there will be much less pressure on the tank fittings, and fuel fill the longer the hose is. Of course that will be that much more $$$$ though too.

Just for kicks, if that is a used tank I'd have it pressure checked just for safety. 2-3lbs is all it needs to hold, (for plastic tanks-I can't be sure on the aluminum tanks) and there should be a marina local that will do it for you.

Two clamps on the fill hose on each end, and one on each end of the vent. If run a long distance support every 12" is recommended. When clamped down, the tank should not move more than 1/4" in any direction.

Dealt with NMMA certification a few years ago, and that was their policy or recommended procedures. Not sure what the coastguard dictates. In most instances the NMMA is more strict than the USCG

 

[Alpheus]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Jason read THIS and THIS...

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Some free fuel lines from the Baja would've really been the icing on the cake on that salvage.

I really want to scrap a glasser to get parts from since I've you and Alpheus have shown how great the pillaging can be

Are you going to have dual fuel gauges on the dash now?

Yah, I feel like such a dope throwing that fuel line out now. Just wasn't thinking about it at the time I guess. Like most things for me, I learn the hard way.

Thumper the Baja has provided a ton of stuff for me! A couple of things I won't be able to take advantage of though would be the steering and controls. The run on the Islander is just about double what the Baja was. Bummer, that would have been pretty nice. Ah well, I can eBay the old controls and the new controls to come out pretty close to even.

Great question on gauges! If I can find a gauge that matches what I picked up than I'll go with dual. If I can't, my plan was to run both tanks to a switch then to the single gauge. That way I can switch the gauge to read the fore tank or aft tank. That is the plan anyway, hope I can pull it off.

If there is a local farm transfer hose or hydraulic hose builder or company near you call them and check.

It's not marine fuel fill hose, but napa does carry flexible fuel hose in the sizes you will need...

If you don't need a bunch, and there is a local boat builder, ask them....They throw away a bunch of the stuff, and might have a piece you could use.
I've thrown away hundreds if not thousands of pieces as long as EZ has, if not double that length or more.

They can't use it, and can't send it back for credit.


Wherever you position the fuel fill, keep in mind that there will be much less pressure on the tank fittings, and fuel fill the longer the hose is. Of course that will be that much more $$$$ though too.

Just for kicks, if that is a used tank I'd have it pressure checked just for safety. 2-3lbs is all it needs to hold, (for plastic tanks-I can't be sure on the aluminum tanks) and there should be a marina local that will do it for you.

Two clamps on the fill hose on each end, and one on each end of the vent. If run a long distance support every 12" is recommended. When clamped down, the tank should not move more than 1/4" in any direction.

Dealt with NMMA certification a few years ago, and that was their policy or recommended procedures. Not sure what the coastguard dictates. In most instances the NMMA is more strict than the USCG

Good tips Lon! Yah my runs aren't too bad. I am looking at 6'/7' for fill, 8'/7' for vent and 13'/8' for supply.

By the way, my local boat builders are the guys that hang wound here - Huron Angler, Bwana Don, DJ, Bcast, HopeSheFloats, DJ, CBGale

Jason read THIS and THIS...

Yup, that is what I was thinking of Bruce, thanks! I am pretty sure the price will scare me away on that hose.

I can see the one fella broke up his lines with fittings though. So is that legit? I was kinda thinking not, eh?

 

[ben2go]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Yah, that might be what I am thinking of EZ. I was just on the JT site too hunting for it. No big deal, standard stuff will work. Man, so pricey though! I feel like an idiot now tossing out those fuel lines I ripped oh of the Baja. They were in perfect shape. The stuff that came out of the Islander was garbage.

Hey,we all make mistakes.I once tossed a wiring harness to a boat that had special conectors for the dash and gauge panel.Guess what,that company was no longer in buisness,so the dash and gauge panel was trash.We just got lucky.after a few weeks of calling every parts supplier around,a little old boat shop in MI had an NOS harness.Moral of the story,I should have had my *** handed to me.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Thanks Ben - dumb is how I roll sometimes. Good to know that other fellas do the same from time to time.

OK so, I have three big sheets of pink foam flotation in the truck (on sale at Menards, cool).

And, I just ordered all the fuel line I need too. I think I got a pretty darn good deal, $4.59/foot for 1.5" fill, $2.11/foot for 5/8" vent and $2.09/foot for 3/8" supply. Not too shabby, still hard for a yank though. Called my local West Marine and I was looking at just about 3x that amount, ouch.

Well, something is happening anyway

 

[djpeters]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Thanks Ben - dumb is how I roll sometimes. Good to know that other fellas do the same from time to time.

OK so, I have three big sheets of pink foam flotation in the truck (on sale at Menards, cool).

And, I just ordered all the fuel line I need too. I think I got a pretty darn good deal, $4.59/foot for 1.5" fill, $2.11/foot for 5/8" vent and $2.09/foot for 3/8" supply. Not too shabby, still hard for a yank though. Called my local West Marine and I was looking at just about 3x that amount, ouch.

Well, something is happening anyway

Hey I need some of that fuel line also....that's a good price, can you enlighten me???

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey I need some of that fuel line also....that's a good price, can you enlighten me???

Sure bro! NuWave Marine out of New Jersey. That was just about the best price I could find out there. They have an eBay store but I just called them direct, it was easier. I think they are running some sort of sale at the moment, you may want to give them a ring

 

[Wrongsyde]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hiya Jas and the rest of your hecklers. I'm a Lake Pend Orielle newbie boater checking in... after reading through both of your Starcraft threads! Whew, I'm worn out just from LOOKING at your work! I see you're fast approaching 3k posts, AND a big splash... or two. =)

My hat's off to you. After fighting my lil 40hp Rude for almost 300 hours before finding the one little advance adj screw, and a mediocre "restore" job on my lil 14' glass runabout, and fail after fail after fail, I love reading about your restore. I think the only thing I got looking proper was the woodwork, most of which I hammered the following boating season. =) After being towed off the lake 3 times, one near-capsize, and 6 or more on-water OB repairs, I'm finally getting it beat through my thick skull that maybe i should do it right the first time. So I picked up a test of my new theory... '66 22ft Fiberform Continental with I/O 302 Ford. Lots of work to be done!

Anyway, one thought on the sanded floor of your boat; I went with texture under Brightside topcoat (It's what I had, got the paint for a 1/4 its cost from a friend). It looked good for a lil while, but I found that ANY hard surface rubbing on it quickly broke right through the paint and pulled the texture off... so there are several tackle-box sized wear spots, two under my fuel tanks, and one bad one roughly the size of a beer cooler that didn't get strapped down. So just that heads up... I'm sure you'll have a far more shipshape boat than I ever did, with storage for all those things, but it doesn't take long for a hard object to rip that deck paint right off. Also was really hard to clean that texture, tho I did have a buncha yummy stuff like 2-cycle oil, gasoline, spilt beer, fish slime, escaped worms, etc, spread on it, and the wear marks didn't help cleaning either.

I'm a woodworker by trade, so I thought I'd weigh in on the color thing... was sad to hear you backing out of the vintage ash for woodwork. To me, nothing makes a boat have more beauty and class than some nice wood details! I think I would ditch the pretty blue seats before I'd lose the Black/Grey/Wood theme. Forgot who posted it... take a sharpie to that blue and have some nice black leg-burning accent lines on the seats. =)

Best of luck with the rest of this tin can o' yours. I'll certainly be following progress from time to time!

-Ben

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey Ben! Thanks for checking in buddy! I am eyeballing your avatar and your little glasser looks sharp

Tell ya what buddy, you spend much more time on these metal boat threads any you may just find yourself hauling home a Starcraft one of these days

Great points having hard stuff sitting on the deck for any length of time. I can easily see how the texture might get worked off under a heavy cooler, bilg ol tackle box or a fuel can. I hadn't really considered that part of it, thanks!

I really hate having a cluttered deck so most of my stuff will be stowed. I'll have that giant cooler/livewell as one of the seat boxes. My tackle boxes are actually all soft siders but even those can be stowed in the starboard side seat boxes. Fuel tanks are sub deck. Any other junk could be tossed in the cabin.

I "think" I'll be ok. But as I mentioned before, I don't mind coming back every other year, every third year maybe, and laying down another coat. If it does all go to pot, I'll scrape it off and lay down DuraBak. I am happy to post up my failures here for you doods to point and laugh. If it works I'll grin at my $30 deck surfacing job

was sad to hear you backing out of the vintage ash for woodwork. To me, nothing makes a boat have more beauty and class than some nice wood details! I think I would ditch the pretty blue seats before I'd lose the Black/Grey/Wood theme.

Hey guys, I have to come clean. Ben the new guy has me pegged here ^^^^. I actually decided to go back to the black over white, gray deck, white vinyl and wood tones maybe two weeks ago. I know you guys who follow along on my thread are prolly :facepalm::facepalm: Sorry fellas, I know trying to follow my work is like watching a squirrel under an oak tree. For what ever reason the blue just doesn't feel right ya know.

Anyway, I am really bummed about those seats. They are totally awesome but they will need to be dyed (extremely unlikely) or find their way to eBay (very likely). Anybody wants em, shoot me a pm. I think I'll phone a couple of the local upholstery shops and see what they say about changing the color but I don't have a whole lot of hope.

Well, I am out of town for a couple of days so work will be on hold. I am looking at the calender and I am seeing about 6 more weeks before winter starts to lose her grip. We'll see what we can get done.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I think you are seriously over estimating how bad those seats will look with your black/gray color scheme.

Jamestown wanted like $20 a foot for that fill line, that is one heck of a deal you scored.

 

[djpeters]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I placed an order at 10am for all my fuel line. Stinkin' good deal. Thanks for the info. He said both our orders should ship out today.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Yah EZ, there is a good chance that I am being overly picky on those seats.

Hey DJ, we love our good deals eh bro!!

 

[fshngho]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Its me again Margrette. LOL. Ok. maybe before your time.:facepalm:
Jas I can tell you a couple things about the fuel inlet/vent lines. They must be CG approved. You can get them at any Marine store (IB) and they ALL will be a PIA to fit into your specific area. The only thing I can think of is to apply a heat gun to help with the bends. I have to go through this particular step myself. Sorry about the Baja and parts gone missing, but what is done is done. No auto or substitute will do, be safe and do it right.
Use the seats you have or send them to me, I am not that picky.
Heck, the fish don't care

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Sorry man, I don't know a Margrette. Must be a blue hair thing.

Yah, I think a little heat will help the process. We'll make it happen one way or another. Yah, the stuff I ordered is ligit marine grade stuff at super great pricing. I'll take it! I was prepared for much worse, wasn't as painful on the budget as I though it was going to be.

 

[Wrongsyde]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

fshgho, you wouldn't be referring to Ray Stevens, would ya? you're right, it's before my time too, but we have a radio station around that plays a bunch of classics.

And to keep hijacking the thread, mainly because I don't know anything about fuel hose and just want to post... Jas, thanks for the compliment on my lil boat, Mathilde, but I have a couple photos to show you to keep it in perspective! lol.





One is stranded with an out-of-time motor on the wrongsyde of the lake, pre-"restore" (my buddy thought me and the repair manual was funny) and the other is being towed back to the dock with a seized powerhead.

Not all bad, 300+ hours mostly of enjoyment, lots of pics of fish and sunsets and gorgeous lake views to go with those, and a fiancee who I met while boating!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Holy smokes, the one of you sitting with the manual on the lake there is stinking funny! Classic! (sorry bro, we hardly know each other and I am cutting on ya already!)

The one of you being towed is just salt in the wound man!

Tell ya what, the backdrop is stunning though! Love it, big time. I am missing the mountains now man. I have spent a fair amount of time out west but have yet to make it to Idaho. When the boys get a bit older we'll throw on packs and head spent some time at tree line.

Cheers buddy

 

[Wrongsyde]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

No problem, man, I would not have posted if I were that ashamed of it. Just photo proof of some tough lessons, but I'm still here and the boat is not fish habitat.

It is truly stunningly beautiful here, and I am grateful to live in this landscape. I love my mountains and lake!

Michigan is nothing to be ashamed of, for sure. Not quite the mountains we have here, but every bit as pretty in places! My mom's from Munising, so over the years I've had a chance to see some of the UP. Pend Orielle is big, but it's got nothing on the Great Lakes! Still need to make a trip out there and get my uncle to teach me how to catch fish. You're setting up the Islander mostly for Huron, huh? I see lots of lil water around you, but seems the big girl needs the big water.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Yah, the Islander will be built mainly for Huron (walleye, perch) Michigan (salmon, lakers) and Superior (Isle Royal, Pictured Rocks, Apostles, Shipwrecks). The Jet Star will be for pretty much everything in between.

Love big water like I love big mountains!

 

[Teamster]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Yah EZ, there is a good chance that I am being overly picky on those seats.

Hey DJ, we love our good deals eh bro!!

Dont sell them until your done and get a chance to see how they look,........

Maybe they will look just fine,...