1974 reinell cuddy restore

[froggy1150]

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[chevymaher]

Well you could do anything you want. I found the same thing that you did. I just ripped it all out. Good thing I did to because I found this mess a few feet away.

Point is it is there. And unless you expose it all you have no way of knowing how far it went. And by the time you do that it is just as easy to replace it.

 

[mickyryan]

once i find moisture i resign myself to a full rehab, i ate my own words on my trophy i told kc it looked great then boom i found it and gutted it

 

[kcassells]

Concur and concur! Yup, yup, yup....

 

[froggy1150]

:facepalm: and the mancrying continues.....

 

[kcassells]

Yea... I was of the mindset the next pc. of wood will be good. Then not..then more cutting and demo...then gave in to the thought of all that. Someone's posted saying I'm not sure anymore but it chewed away at me. I said this can't be happening to me. I knew nothing about boat rehab and wouldn't have survived with out all the great guys here.
Something like this..."De Nile ain't just a river...":lol:
Let the fun begin!!

 

[froggy1150]

The stringers for the motor mounts are made out of dimensional lumber. There will be 4 2×6's 42" long. What is the best lumber to use? Pine?

 

[froggy1150]

And I forgot to mention..... per guidance I was removing said stringers and as I cut it was dry. Further down it was dry. And then when I cut into the back bottom by the transom..... bout a 1/2 cup of rot maker came flowing out
I guess that' why you are the pros!
I would have had to redo alot of work in a year or 2

 

[chevymaher]

The stringers for the motor mounts are made out of dimensional lumber. There will be 4 2×6's 42" long. What is the best lumber to use? Pine?

Yes

 

[froggy1150]

Got to the point where I get to mix resin finally! On a omc stringer i/o drive everything is hung from the 4 motor mounts that attach to these 2 big stringers. 2 questions.
1. Should I cover them in glass before I bed them to the hull?
2. Because all the thrust is transferred to the hull and transom from these what would be the best way to bed them? Epoxy or pl. For these do I worry about the possibility of a hard spot or do I want these BONDED. The last shop that did all the repairs did bond them directly to the hull. The load will be spread out with a fair amount of tabbing and the distance between the transom and bulkhead is 42 inches

 

[mickyryan]

1 yes
2. all stringers usually get bonded the reason folks leave thin stringers hi is to let peanut butter mix squeeze into it to be sure its all bonded , yes i would bond them and i would use epoxy if that is what you are using put a smathering of it down the middle and be sure it squeezes out of both sides

 

[Woodonglass]

Thicken the epoxy with cabosil, or wood flour , or Talc. Just make it like Creamy Peanut butter. 1/4" this is all you need for bedding material. Use wood ships to hold it up and then putty knife it under the stringers. It'll harden in a couple of hours.

 

[froggy1150]

My first attempt at real glass work came out pretty good last night and have only 2 or 3 small air pockets to grind out on the corners. Going to fill with kittyhair pb mix. I wasted a pint of resin though. The syringe had the wrong markings on it and it kicked off in less than 5 min.:target:Went In The house and grabbed a cough medicine cup and did the "same volume" and worked perfectly. Never trust cheap syringes
much thanks to all!

 

[froggy1150]

First off ..... I have been bad and have not put any pictures of my boat up. It was covered for the winter and I took these when I uncovered it this spring when it got over 100 deg. Now at 115 and humidity that feels like florida.....
my questions.... got stringer for motor/drive sealed and glued in and about to do the layup. I was planning a layer of 1708 45/45 and then a layer of super thick woven cloth. 24 Oz I think. Is this enough? This will all be epoxy.
and how can you tell if epoxy has blush. I have been sanding/washing with acetone everything as I go anyway

 

[alldodge]

Not sure how much it will take with 24 oz cloth, that's some heavy stuff

Good with epoxy and 100 degrees, you wouldn't stand a chance with poly

Blushing is when it starts turning white or kind of foggy, no longer clear

 

[froggy1150]

Must have got terms kinda mixed.
anime blush.... "greasy film produced during cure that prevents next layer bonding" just not sure what this looks/feels like. How pronounced is this..... like motor oil on top

 

[froggy1150]

Does any one else want to opine on if I need anymore glass. 17 Oz at 45/45 with 8oz stitched mat and what I believe is 24 Oz woven at 90/90.

 

[kcassells]

Using eeepppoooxxy all you need is 1700 biaxel., no matt. Matt is for poly. 2 layers typically do the job. All that other stuff is overkill and money you can use elsewhere in the boat.
Amin blush just wash away with soapy water.


uscomposites; 1700 biax
Heavy duty reinforcement (17ounces per square yard) used in applications where a fiberglass MAT backing is not desired.

 

[froggy1150]

Well got one of the motor mounts stringers in and lowered motor on to just check before doing other side and noticed the wonderful person that did the repairs last time glassed the motor/drive off to one side by 2 inches. I made the mistake of following how it was:facepalm:
I am going to push it over as far as I can but not sure I can get quite to CL. how far off center can I be before it's problematic. I know I can get an inch, maybe 1 1/4. Any more and i will have to glass another piece of 2x10 against the existing glass and not sure I will like that. Also for the lag bolts for the mounts .... I have read different ways. What's better?
1. Drill for the lag,install to cut hole, remove lag and fill with cpes
2.drill oversized, mold release lag, fill with epoxy and glass and install lag then let cure?
or is there a better way?

 

[mickyryan]

Is it set that way for a reason? I had a wellcraft stringers and engine was a inch starboard , i set it same way in case it was offset for weight or whatever ,maybe not but boat rode just fine and i never had any issues , keyhole was unchanged so i knew it was off from factory