1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey skibum! Yeh I noticed you weren't around in a bit. Having fun sanding huh!
I was thinking about you and your wife the other day. How is she doing? I hope all is well!

I'm doing pettit non skid paint on the deck.

I'll catch up with you tomorrow

Goodnight

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

She is doing well. She is still in Indiana while most of her unit went back to JRTC in Louisiana. I can see the end of sanding soon.

 

[tallcanadian]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Mick, I think you have quite enough on your deck. If any water gets in through that, well, just as well give up. And with all that you have, I don't think you should worry about strength. I think your only going to add weight from here on out. Are you not running up the sides a bit to overlap where the deck meets the sides? I may have missed that.

 

[obxhawk]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Mick,
This looks great. The funny thing though is that as I am just in the beginning stages I keep second guessing myself and hoping that as I get more into it that I won't do that anymore. I guess I'm wrong if someone who has been as thorough as you is still wondering if you should do more at this stage in it.
The only thing I can say is whether it structurally needs it or not , if you don't go ahead and add another layer will you wonder if you should have every time you get out on the water? That would drive me crazy. If for no other reason, I would do it just so I wouldn't have to think about it. It can't add that much weight.
Thanks again for keeping us all updated. Reading your thread is a big highlight in my day.
Bill

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick as usual really nice work! There will be a lot of details, but they are what make the difference between a rushed job and a nice job. On the floor deck reinforcement, I think everyone is forgetting something about the weights. CSM is sold by oz per square FOOT, cloth is sold by OZ per square YARD. So 2 oz CSM is actually (2oz x 3' x 3') 18oz per yard. So with my 1.5 layer and 2.0 layer on the deck, I have a total of 31.5 oz per yard. As you also noted, the top glass is only part of a "system", all of the plywood, foam, seacast ect work together, to make it stiff as hell! I know mine is one of the stiffest decks I have ever been on. Yours should be fine out on the lake! Keep up the good work! Are you using paint or something like duraback? I'm going with carpet in mine....I like the sqissy floor on my toes

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

tallcanadian- my mat runs 4-6 inches from the deck to the sides of the boat to tie it in.

Thanks guys for the input! I think I'm done with the deck and I won't have any regrets about it either. It is solid as heck, heck it was stiffer than any of the floors in my house after the foam! Now the glass is on there and it's even stiffer.

Last night laying in bed I was actually contemplating grinding down the sides of the boat on the inside, putting a layer of csm on them, and then doing a layer of csm on the deck! I was thinking about all the dust and tyvec suit, and mask, etc... Then I fell asleep!

Then I woke up and said I am done with the deck and the inside of the boat! I will give it a sanding and cleaning after I'm done with the bottom of the boat. After that I will paint it with pettit paint on the sides, and pettit non-skid on the deck- done!

Thanks Again Guys!

 

[seamorewaterVIP]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Mick,
This looks great. The funny thing though is that as I am just in the beginning stages I keep second guessing myself and hoping that as I get more into it that I won't do that anymore. I guess I'm wrong if someone who has been as thorough as you is still wondering if you should do more at this stage in it.
The only thing I can say is whether it structurally needs it or not , if you don't go ahead and add another layer will you wonder if you should have every time you get out on the water? That would drive me crazy. If for no other reason, I would do it just so I wouldn't have to think about it. It can't add that much weight.
Thanks again for keeping us all updated. Reading your thread is a big highlight in my day.
Bill

wwellll If it were me I would instead start worring about adding to much weight. No matter what you do, do it like you want it and be happy. There is always somithing on a boat that can make you worry!!!! mick if it were me I would stop with where you are on the floor I would however make sure I have it tied in well enough around the edges.

 

[Darren Nemeth]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I looked at your batman site- that is a pretty, pretty cool boat! And by the way you missed some things in your expense report like about $100 in rollers and brushes Those things really add up- I lost track of how many brushes I've used up to this point!

Thanks Again

I am glad you like my site. Stay tuned!

Strangely, I only bought one box of brushes and still have 2 left. Sadly, I can't say the same for poly resin. Went through 14 gallons just on the deck, stringers and transom! I am glad that part of the rebuild is over.

Next time I fix up a boat I will coat the undersides of the deck with two coats epoxy instead of poly and 1.5 oz CSM!! That would have saved several days in the job and $$ on poly resin.

 

[MTribe08]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

tallcanadian- my mat runs 4-6 inches from the deck to the sides of the boat to tie it in.

Hey Mick..how much Resin did you use per layer of glass on your deck? 1 Gallon? Not including the resin it took for your seams and tie-in's.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Seams, tabs, and entire deck took 80 ounces for my final layer. I believe my first layer took 64 ounces. Plus the 48 ounces I put on the bare wood before I did my first coat.

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Fiberglasssite has a nice guide that explains all of the differnt types of glass and tells you how much poly it will take per yard. There info seemed to work out about right for me.

 

[MTribe08]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Great, thanks for the help guys!

I totally scored today, found a OEM Monterey captains chair with bolster and mounting plate for $45!!
It would easily cost 300+ at many online sources I looked at.

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

MTribe, can you get 2 more for that price? that is a steel

 

[MTribe08]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

MTribe, can you get 2 more for that price? that is a steel

I went down there today to pick this one up and they had one more. It was all white with no bolster and it came out of a moomba. I think my buddy is going to buy it. But they said they should run into others, I'll keep an eye out.

 

[obxhawk]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Talking about finding used parts....There is a huge place in Chesapeake, VA. I'm pretty sure they will ship. They are a great source if anyone is interested. Here's their website. http://budgetboats.net/

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

My progress from last night.

I filled the uneven spots at the bottom of the knee walls with fiberglass filler just to make it level and smooth. Before I glassed over the knee walls I went ahead and started with the piece I will be putting under the dash area that gives me access to the up under the bow and the gas tank. There was no door here before and some delamination so i figured I'd just make a whole new piece for the area. I cut everything out and pollied the back side of it. Next time out I will trowel pl on the back and join it to the existing structure then glass it in. I have to cut out the door for it too.

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Knee walls glassed it and done

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Here is the new piece that will go over the existing

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and pollied

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continued...

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Arch it's starting to get a little messy in here again. I'm gonna have to clean up and organize again soon

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While I was working last night I had a can of white spray paint so I figured I'd spray a couple coats to get and idea of what it would look like. Looks Good!

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I gotta cut up some pallets this afternoon. I'm out of starter wood! I have plenty of oak inside but I use the pallets to get the fire going and to get it stoked up- it works great and they are free from all over the place.

Later!

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick,

I have been cleaning all day! I have the boat outside and just started to work on the paint booth. Naturally after I got the first section screwed together, I figured out the plastic I have won't work. I'm heading to get something to eat and buy some different plastic.....good luck on the cleaning! The boat is looking good!

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Arch- are you going to put a heater in the booth to keep the temp up?

I wanted to ask too- why do you need a paint booth? Just because of excess spray and dust?

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Dust and everything will be covered in overspray....EVERYTHING....dust is the main issue...with this type paint anything floating around in the air 10 minutes after it's sprayed will be stuck in the paint. I will be exhausting the air to the outside and bringing in make up air through a window into the shop. I will fire up the heater (and a tube heater like yours, or two) while I'm painting to keep things warm....more or less heat up the shop air, then push it through the paint booth and exhaust it along with the fumes / overspray. You don't want heaters in the paint booth unless you want to go BOOM!