1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

[benjh1028]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Mick,

I found your next project boat:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1962...ItemQQptZPower_Motorboats?hash=item56392a35f9

Ben

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

No Thanks on another project boat! This is it when I'm done with this one.
I would like that speedometer and bow light off that boat though!

Thanks for the comments guys!
Maybe I will look into the 4200.

The more I think about it too, I don't really think it's that big a deal just to cover them up. I can have the areas where the screws are documented, and then if the floor has to come out 50 years down the road whoever has it can just cut around those areas and then reciprocal saw them off.

I gotta think about it some more.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick,
the deck really looks good.
I don't think any of the methods mentioned are really going to hurt anything. You will still have them sealed with glass.
Good luck with the foam pour.
Once again great job.
Bob

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

great looking floor. now what to do? You dont need to document the screw locations because whoever needs to remove them can use a magnet to find them.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I got the foam done last night! I just drilled my holes and started going. It took me about 5 hours and about 15 pairs of nitrile gloves. I finished at around 2 am and finished getting most of the foam off of me around 2:30! This is a messy job, and there is a definite learning curve to it. This was the hardest thing I did on the boat so far.

In the end though, I am very happy and the floor is very solid. It was solid with just the 3/4" but with the foam- WOW- it's likes like a floor in a well bit house- Solid!!!

I had a couple areas where I put in way to much and alot came spewing out, and I had some areas where I had to go back and add more. There is definitely a learning curve to pouring foam and I wouldn't be able to hack working with it all the time.

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The transom all braced up and then finished

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One of the areas were I over flowed. I would recommend scraping the excess off before it gets to hard. It was alot easier to scrape up when there was still a tack to it.

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What a mess!

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The bow area that was an empty cavity. I used the excess scraped up foam and some pink foam leftovers I had to somewhat fill the cavity before I poured in the pourable foam.

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Here is a video I threw together when I was all done. I wanted to do a video during the foam process but it took to long for the amount of memory I have on my camera memory card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQLOBYfqmTY

Next I have to get everything vacuumed up and sanded before I start on my glass. I think I am going fill the drill holes with short strand filler. Most of my holes are filled to the top with foam but some are just halfway or so.

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick, looks great! You are on the down hill slide for a while! It's amazing how much difference the foam makes, really stiffens things up.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Archbuilder-
Yeh, I hit my stride here.. can't keep my eyes open during the day though!

That is the main reason I wanted the foam- for the rigidity that it will offer and not for the floatation. I could not be happier right now about how it turned out!!!

 

[jspano]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

mick

awesome work!!!!!!!!!!!

when ever i seen someone starting a fiberglass restore your thread is one of the ones i recommend.

hey another trick with chalk lines is to get some clear paint and spray over it and it will be there for a long time.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick,
The deck looks great. It is amazing how much extra support you get with the foam. the only reason I recommend taping plastic or wax paper around the holes is for clean up it makes it go a lot smoother.
However you did a great job as expected.
Congrats my friend.
Bob

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Thanks Joe- that's quite a compliment!
Bob- I must have missed or overlooked the wax paper thing- yeh that would have helped big time!

Here is a video on my thoughts on pourable foam and a demonstration on a pour! If the link doesn't work you can find it on youtube under "Mixing Pourable Foam"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO_oXuP17fE

Here is the foam from the video after about five minutes

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Tonight I got my transom cap fiberglassed. I used two layers of biax.

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One thing I did the other night when I was done foaming was use great stuff foam in a can to spray around the edge of my deck.

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I did this because there was a valley between the deck and the sides of the hull. Glassing in the deck would have been tough because it was a fairly wide gap and dip. So today I cut off the excess and it did exactly what I wanted it to do- to make it some what level so glassing will be easier.

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I also filled all the holes from foaming, my screw holes, and any knots in the wood with a short strand filler.

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Next I have to sand, wipe everything down with acetone, and then glass the top of the deck! I may not get to that for a couple days though- school work.

I have a question I was thinking about tonight. Do I have to glass the outer transom skin over the areas I filled with filler that I used for my bolts to tighten down the frame I used for my seacast pour? I don't think so but I had to ask.

Goodnight!

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick,
I always like your video's. Nice job explaining how you did it and showing the reaction. You are also correct in the temp slowing reaction down.
Again very well done.
Bob

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Thanks Bob- I got the info from you guys!
Hopefully the video helps somebody out in the future.

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Mick, I didnt cover the holes, I had areas where the seacast was exposed and just gelcoated over it. looks great and Im sure it will last forever.

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I'm not sure if I understand the question Mick....but here is my reply to what I think you are asking! I had holes in my transom that were for the old motor (have no idea what it was). I taped them off when I poured the seacast. Once it set up I pulled the tape and "dished" them out with a grinder. I then put a couple of layers of glass on them, and filled the low areas with body filler.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Arch- the holes that I made for my thru bolts to go through to hold my forms in place when I poured my seacast

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4 bolt holes

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After the forms were off this is what was left.

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Then I filled those holes with short strand fiberglass filler and here is what was left.

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My question is- Do I need to put fiberglass over the holes that I had for the thru bolts on the outside transom skin?
I don't think so because it is fiberglass filler and it will be sanded and painted but still not sure if I should put a small piece of fiberglass over the filler on the outside skin?

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I would glass it, but that is probably because I'm picky. If the filler ever shrinks, it will move causing a crack in your paint. On the other hand, If the skin is all fiberglass, and the filler shrinks, there won't be any cracks. I just don't like visits from Murphy as Bob says. I really doubt you will have problems, but I'm a pessimist!

 

[McGR]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Nice work mick. That thing is going to be a tank.

 

[Caravandaddy]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I just finished reading the entire thread. Very nice job! I just bought a 1969 Sea Star 17.5 footer. I haven't picked it up, yet. But the pictures (I bought it on eBay for $150) show a pretty rough interior. I anticipate having to do much the same work as you and your hard work has helped a lot in my planning. I'm looking forward to seeing future posts on your boat.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Yeh it will be the tank. I just hope the extra weight I put in it with additional glass on the hull and the secast stringers and transom doesn't hamper it's performance. So far I have 6 gallons of poly in the boat.
Anyone know or wanna take a guess as to what the weight difference is between using seacast rather than wood for the stringers and transom?
Caravandaddy- nice boat! Don't worry, my wife said the same thing! Good luck on the restore!

 

[MTribe08]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

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Hey Mick..fantastic looking job on the boat! Had a quick question, did you ever consider adding some more drainage this time around? Like putting holes in the lower corners of the side supports, and a few in the stringers, so if water gets outside the center, it can find its way to the bilge? or did you not bother since its all seacast down there?