1958 14' Fleetform

cpenrose

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Re: 1958 14' Fleetform

There was no floor how I got it, and there was no remnants of a floor. I would understand anybody who checks out.:untroubled:
 

jigngrub

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Have you got all of your grinding and sanding done yet penrose? You need to do it all now, it is the hardest and dirtiest part of the job and spreading it out with a little here and a little there only prolongs the agony. You need to do all of the grinding on the hull and the cap before starting anything else.

Once you finish the grinding is when the fun stuff of building and creating comes into play and it will be easier and more enjoyable.
 

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I would HIGHLY recommend that you get the inside done first. The cross pieces are called bulkheads. The Stringers should be at the same level as the top of the bulkeads the deck will lay on top of the stringers and bulkheads and the edges will extend to the edges of the hull and be tabbed to the hulls sides and to the transom. You need to get all the areas where the stringers will be installed and the edges of the hull sanded and prepped in order to install the stringer, transom and deck. You should really search and study the other restorations here on the forum and SEE how the other members have done their stringer, transom and deck installations. They are almost identical to what you will be doing.

Prolly the best thing you could do would be to make a Project list of what needs to be done, then prioritize the list and then attack each thing on the list and check it off once it has been accomplished. You'll be amazed at how much that will help. Have a plan to stick to...and stick to the plan!!!!
 

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I enjoy this thread, it makes me smile :) I was just going to commend JB on his help and patience and then he checked out lol (understandably)... keep at it young man, I like your determination! Most kids your age are spending all that time playing video games. Just slow down and stay safe, I like speed too, but not in the garage or on the water. Den

Thanks Den, my life is too full already, so when this became an exercise in futility, it was time to move on.
 

cpenrose

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Just an update, I haven't gotten ANYTHING done, I just looked at my boat for the first time in about a week and a half today. This is all due to the fact that my uncle's truck is in my garage and it's freezing outside. He plans to get it out in the next few days, but he said that before...
 

jigngrub

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Grinding and sanding is best done outside anyway, and the more clothes you have on the less the fiberglass will itch you.
 

jigngrub

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I'm not sure your folks are going to like the fiberglass dust in the garage... all over everything... being tracked into the house...
 

cpenrose

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Whoops... I guess I'll just slide it out when I sand.
 

cpenrose

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I have the boat out in my driveway to finish up the sanding, I have the wheels on the cradle. As I'm thinking about the stringer/floor layout, and I'm almost ready to start, how hard would it be to weld up an aluminum gas tank to fit right in the floor. My neighbor who would gladly help, is a welder and I have his welder right now. Has anyone done this before.
 

jbcurt00

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Underfloor fuel tanks need to meet these regs:
Fuel_Tank_new.jpg


Making your own fuel tank. What are the legal rules?


[CITE: 33CFR183.510][Page 777-778] TITLE 33--NAVIGATION AND NAVIGABLE WATERS CHAPTER I--COAST GUARD, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (CONTINUED) PART 183--BOATS AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT--Table of Contents Subpart J--Fuel Systems Sec. 183.510 Fuel tanks. (a) Each fuel tank in a boat must have been tested by its manufacturer[[Page 778]]under Sec. 183.580 and not leak when subjected to the pressure marked on the tank label under Sec. 183.514(b)(5). (b) Each fuel tank must not leak if subjected to the fire test under Sec. 183.590. Leakage is determined by the static pressure test under Sec. 183.580, except that the test pressure must be at least one-fourth PSIG. (c) Each fuel tank of less than 25 gallons capacity must not leak if tested under Sec. 183.584. (d) Each fuel tank with a capacity of 25 to 199 gallons must not leak if tested under Sec. 183.586. (e) Each fuel tank of 200 gallons capacity or more must not leak if tested under Secs. 183.586 and 183.588.[CGD 74-209, 42 FR 5950, Jan. 31, 1977, as amended by CGD 81-092, 48 FR 55736, Dec. 15, 1983][CITE: 33CFR183.512][Page 778] TITLE 33--NAVIGATION AND NAVIGABLE WATERS CHAPTER I--COAST GUARD, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (CONTINUED) PART 183--BOATS AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT--Table of Contents Subpart J--Fuel Systems Sec. 183.512 Fuel tanks: Prohibited materials. (a) A fuel tank must not be constructed from terneplate. (b) Unless it has an inorganic sacrificial galvanic coating on the inside and outside of the tank, a fuel tank must not be constructed from black iron or carbon steel. (c) A fuel tank encased in cellular plastic or in fiber reinforced plastic must not be constructed from a ferrous alloy.[CGD 74-209, 42 FR 5950, Jan. 31, 1977; 42 FR 24739, May 16, 1977] Sec. 183.590 Fire test. (a) A piece of equipment is tested under the following conditions and procedures: (1) Fuel stop valves, USCG Type A1'' or USCG Type A2'' hoses and hose clamps are tested in a fire chamber. (2) Fuel filters, strainers, and pumps are tested in a fire chamber or as installed on the engine in the boat. (3) Fuel tanks must be tested filled with fuel to one-fourth the capacity marked on the tank in a fire chamber or in an actual or simulated hull section. (b) Each fire test is conducted with free burning heptane and the component must be subjected to a flame for 2\1/2\ minutes. (c) If the component is tested in a fire chamber:[[Page 784]] (1) The temperature within one inch of the component must be at least 648 deg.C sometime during the 2\1/2\ minute test; (2) The surface of the heptane must be 8 to 10 inches below the component being tested; and (3) The heptane must be in a container that is large enough to permit the perimeter of the top surface of the heptane to extend beyond the vertical projection of the perimeter of the component being tested. (d) If the component is being tested as installed on an engine, heptane sufficient to burn 2\1/2\ minutes must be poured over the component and allowed to run into a flat bottomed pan under the engine. The pan must be large enough to permit the perimeter of the top surface of the heptane to extend beyond the vertical projection of the perimeter of the engine. (e) If a fuel tank is being tested in an actual or simulated hull section, the actual or simulated hull section must be of sufficient size to contain enough heptane to burn for 2\1/2\ minutes in a place adjacent to the tank.[CGD 74-209, 42 FR 5950, Jan. 31, 1977, as amended by CGD 77-98, 42 FR 36253, July 14, 1977; CGD 85-098, 52 FR 19729, May 27, 1987]



There is a wealth of info available, if you'd care to look for it, on iboats. That would prevent the getting ahead of yourself that's been mentioned many times. It is unfortunate that this has come up during the holidays w/ very little traffic @ iboats.


It doesn't take much to go from yeah fun to oh carp when boating. When it does, you can not just pull over and get out. Nor can anyone else unfortunate enough to be in the boat when things go sideways.

Resto your boat & then boat safely
 

cpenrose

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Yeah nevermind, I think I'll just go with our portable plastic one:joyous:
 

cpenrose

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Just like every other 13 yr old, I got a belt sander and a miter saw. I know the miter saw will help a bunch, but will the belt sander be of any use?
 

sphelps

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You can never have enough tools in the shed . So collecting as many different type sanders as you can can only be a good thing . :)
 

cpenrose

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Happe new year everyone. This sanding is terrible! I got a tyvek suit. I didn't even finish the inside yet... It's so tedious and I have to keep moving around to get the angle right due to all of the curves. I can only get 20 mins in before I'm aching. Can't WAIT to start the outside...:pout:
 

cpenrose

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Is soda blasting possible? I'm pretty sure its not because gelcoat is harder than glass.
 

jigngrub

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Just keep on with the sanding/grinding, it'll build good muscles and improve your hand/eye coordination... the more you do it, the easier it'll get.
 
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