18' Starcraft SuperSport restoration

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Stratosman86

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Re: 18' Starcraft SuperSport restoration

Hey EZ and Bro,
I don't if I am just lucky or what, but mine sat in a slip at Gaston for a whole week and I have not had any problems with the topside paint as of yet. There was a lot of traffic over the transom and into the splashwell with all the watersports we were doing that week. I did notice that when I pulled her out to come home, that there were some very small bubbles on the bottom of the hull, but they have since disappeared.

Darren
 

ezmobee

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Re: 18' Starcraft SuperSport restoration

The only thing I can think of Darren is some horrible incompatibility between Easypoxy and whatever my boat was last repainted with.
 

ezmobee

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UPDATE: So we're taking the boat to Ocean City, MD with us on vacation tomorrow. I had still not replaced the impeller in my motor and I knew I was pushing my luck too much. So I ordered one and went to install it last week. Well I was stymied pretty much right off the bat. The bolt that holds the shift rod on up in the powerhead under the carbs was pretty well buried under a bunch of hoses and other such things. As I had no interest in turning my running motor into a non-running motor....I decided to call up this mobile mechanic I had found on CL a few months ago and has corresponded with about some of my running issues. He told me that he would go over the whole motor for me but that he like to do the thermostats when he does the impellers. He told me to order them and call him when they came in to set up a time for him to come out.

The t-stats come in on Monday and I called him to see when he could come out. No good, he says he's real busy and wouldn't be able to make it till Friday or perhaps Saturday. Well that's no good as I'm leaving tomorrow. So I said I would just run it as-is and take it in when I get back. He says that if I can bring it to his house he could work on it much sooner. So I took a real gamble, the week before vacation, and took it out there. Well the gamble paid off. This guy is a GURU on all things that power boats, particularly outboards and older jet skis. He said he's one of the last people in the area that still works on the older Merc inline 6's and he was even working on an old '71 Evinrude electric shift model.

So I dropped it off on Monday evening, by Tuesday around lunch time he was already calling me to tell me what was wrong with it (he was troubleshooting my hot-restart stalling issue). Turns out some dumb PO had tried to hop the motor up by slapping some 140HP carbs on it. Much too big for it. He said with 115 carbs he could make my 90 an honest 115 and does that often, but he said anything bigger, like the 125, 135 and 140 carbs are all just too big without other modifications. He said I should try to find some 115 carbs. In the meantime, he rejetted the 140 carbs and made numerous other adjustments so the motor would run as good as could for me in the meantime.

They also replaced the impeller, installed new fuel pump and carb kits, t-stats, plugs, and even changed the lower unit oil. He put a used starter bendix on as mine was real beat up and tested out my charging system (which was great). He put 7 hours of labor into it and charged me $60 an hour, total of $420. While cripplingly expensive :eek: I thought it more than fair. I'm caught up now on all periodical maintenance.

I wanted to run it before I dragged it 4 hours away on vacation so I called up Scott, coolbikeguy, to see if he was interested in coming to the lake with me. He was, which turned out to be really great because the water level was low and I think I would have had a heck of a time retrieving by myself. The motor ran much better. Not perfect, but much better. We drove around a while and then let it sit for a few minutes and restarted it. Typically it would have given me fits and stalled a number of times before I could have kept it running. This time, with a little warm up lever applied, it started right up and stayed running. My mechanic, knowing I was taking it out, actually called me to see how it ran. He gave me some suggestions on how to get a little more idle speed out of it and assured me that with the right carbs he could get it running perfect.

So it sucks I have the wrong carbs and I did have to drop some cash but at least I'm all caught up maintenance-wise, my issues have been diagnosed, my motor runs better and I found a heck of a mechanic. It was also a beautiful night last night which Scott and I enjoyed for our short sea-trial.
 

HopeSheFloats

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Re: 18' Starcraft SuperSport restoration

Good to hear she's ready to roll...after the carb change, think the fuel consumption will lower much?

Have a great vacation!!! Take lots of pix for us to drool over ;)
 

Huron Angler

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I'm curious how much HP the 140 carbs give the outboard. Is it basically going to be a 115 then once you are done?

Good luck and have fun in MD. Glad the motor starts right up you can't beat that.:)
 

ezmobee

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It should be a 115 when I'm done. The mechanic thought it was probably running like a 115 but with poor starting and idle. According to the GPS last night I didn't loose much, if any, speed due to his adjustments.
 

Huron Angler

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Good thing you haven't ordered the decal kit for the V4 then I guess:)

You should be about 22% happier with the outboard in my opinion:p
 

CheapboatKev

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Go have fun Ez!!!!
Nice that ya chomped the bullet and had her taken in..A great mechanic is worth his weight in gold...
 

vegasphotoman

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Re: 18' Starcraft SuperSport restoration

hi Ez

its cool that you got such a good mechanic....sounds like a keeper!

find those carbs and install...hope that is the prob (I bet he's right) :)

keep us posted
 

ezmobee

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The boat is running pretty darn well as-is here on vacation. It starts fairly easily from cold with a bit of primer, hot starts appear to now be a complete non-issues. I am VERY pleased.
 

Triton II

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Glad to hear she's going well Ez... isn't it great to find a tech who actually knows what they're doing! :cool:

TII
 

North Beach

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Re: 18' Starcraft SuperSport restoration

E, what type of primer dod you use under your paint? Was it the Easypoxy white undercoater?
 

ezmobee

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I didn't use any. Therein laid the problem. I was told I didn't need it over a structurally sound paint job. Apparently my existing paint job was not compatible with Easypoxy. Just an FYI though, my adhesion issues are only half the problems. It's still a soft, fragile, junk paint regardless. Tim Fives used it on his transom and it sucks there too.
 

North Beach

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Re: 18' Starcraft SuperSport restoration

I'm not having any of those issues. I used the undercoater basically because I wanted something I could sand a little before I painted and to try and fill in a little. My topside and transom is holding up very well, but I have touched up the bow area from beaching all the time. Also, the stuff blistered (really small blisters) pretty good below the waterline when we had it docked at the lake for two weeks. The trailer rubbed some of the blisters and off went the paint. But I knew that would happen using a topside paint on the bottom. after a few days in the dry, the blisters went away.

Sorry you and Tim are having issues with it!
 

djpeters

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As I near the start of my restoration the paint part of it has me worried. I have been reading tons but still not sure which way to go. You guys that have done it, if you did it again knowing what you know now, what would you use and how would you apply it? (sorry if i'm hi-jacking)
 

ezmobee

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Re: 18' Starcraft SuperSport restoration

No worry on the hijack especially in this old thread. I think I'd strip mine completely, zinc chromate, rusto prime, rusto top coat.
 
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