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  • 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

    Okay, after reading months and months of rebuilding Boat/Motor/Trailer projects on these forums and seeing what I'm getting into, I have to start my own project tread now.

    About a year ago or so I bid on a boat, motor and trailer package on that bidding place (don't know if I can say that site name on here yet). Clever as I thought I was, I actually won the whole nine yards, out-bidding those not knowing I probably did them a great favor in winning. I drove to the seller's city and luckily was able to tow that deal (yea right) home with great excitement... After looking over everything and envisioning a plan of attack, I then got side-tracked into another PROJECT. I FIRST had to refurbish an old 96 Geo Metro car. It was in total need of everything redone, inside and out; looked like it was used in a demolition derby and lost! So I figured I'd use that project to hone my skills for the boat project to come...

    Okay, after finishing that project, I was again excited to start my boat project. I noticed that the trailer was in need of a complete remake, but I know how to do that so no big deal. Then I looked over the 40 HP Johnson outboard and figured out that the lower foot was completely frozen up. Again I am very mechanically inclined so again no big deal. Then I turned to the boat itself. I knew there was going to be much rework done to it because I wanted to redesign it into a completely different layout. Again I thought no big deal. So after I finally sat down and figured out that all I had to do was completely rebuild the trailer, the motor AND the boat it would be ready to go. Seems a great deal for $600 dollars doesn't it? Please after you all stop laughing, no real replies actually needed! I guess I got myself into this situation and much work. But I do enjoy challenges.

    The boat is a 1976 Tom Boy tri-haul, with a 1976 40 HP Johnson electric start outboard motor (engine 40E76R) and I haven't got a clue about the trailer. But I am good at seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and am moving on...foolishly I'm sure but moving on all the same. Once I figure out how to include pictures. I'll post this project and what I've initially how done thus far...

    They say there is a fine line between genius and insanity...how do you know when you cross that line?
    Tom Boy Boat Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...s-what-trailer
    Rebuilt trailer project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/gener...r-back-to-life
    '76 40 HP Johnson rebuild https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...mplete-rebuild
    Minn Kota 599 Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...ta-599-project

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    Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

    How to post pics:
    http://forums.iboats.com/non-boating...os-533219.html
    I consider overkill a job well done... plus a little extra.

    There's as many ways to do something as there is people to tell you how to do it... but not all of them are the right way.

    The drinking and debauchery will continue until morale improves... and maybe for a little while after.

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    • #3
      Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

      Originally posted by jigngrub View Post
      Thanks jigngrub. As soon as I get everything together and setup, pictures will be posted...
      Tom Boy Boat Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...s-what-trailer
      Rebuilt trailer project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/gener...r-back-to-life
      '76 40 HP Johnson rebuild https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...mplete-rebuild
      Minn Kota 599 Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...ta-599-project

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      • #4
        Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

        Originally posted by gm280 View Post
        But I am good at seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and am moving on...foolishly I'm sure but moving on all the same. Once I figure out how to include pictures. They say there is a fine line between genius and insanity...how do you know when you cross that line?
        Good news 1st: The light at the end of tunnel may appear to be a train. The crew @iboats dry dock will help you understand how to get out of it's way. After the train passes, they'll give you plenty of advice on to proceed thru demo, repair, and put back. Some of that advice & opinions may actually even be helpful...

        Bad news: Yeah, it's a train


        Maybe we should call & consult with your Admiral before we define that fine line, how it applies to you & this boats purchase and on which side you are currently standing

        BTW: Is that Johnson an electric shift lower?

        Welcome again to the iboats dry dock.
        Money spent @ Boat Restoration should be measured in Smiles & Pride SHOP IBOATS-BOAT SPECS-FORUM HELP-REPAIR/RESTO

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        • #5
          Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

          Originally posted by jbcurt00 View Post
          Good news 1st: The light at the end of tunnel may appear to be a train. The crew @iboats dry dock will help you understand how to get out of it's way. After the train passes, they'll give you plenty of advice on to proceed thru demo, repair, and put back. Some of that advice & opinions may actually even be helpful...

          Bad news: Yeah, it's a train


          Maybe we should call & consult with your Admiral before we define that fine line, how it applies to you & this boats purchase and on which side you are currently standing

          BTW: Is that Johnson an electric shift lower?

          Welcome again to the iboats dry dock.
          No, it is a standard mechanical setup with the usual shifter rod connected via the remote cable setup. Seems the PO (previous owner) hit something with the boat and motor and broke the cavitation plate off on one side towards the back of the motor. I've already taken the foot totally apart and had that rewelded and all looks good with that issue. However, every part inside that foot was toast (rusted) and I already bought all the new items to reinstall. More on that as I go on.

          Thanks for any and all advice and opinions in advance. I am a great listener and everybody has ideas to learn from, in my opinion. I do enjoy reading these posts and learning new things every day. I am never disappointed learning new things...
          Tom Boy Boat Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...s-what-trailer
          Rebuilt trailer project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/gener...r-back-to-life
          '76 40 HP Johnson rebuild https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...mplete-rebuild
          Minn Kota 599 Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...ta-599-project

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          • #6
            Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

            Hi again, Here are some pictures of my first Geo Car project.

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            I'll post the boat next...
            Tom Boy Boat Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...s-what-trailer
            Rebuilt trailer project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/gener...r-back-to-life
            '76 40 HP Johnson rebuild https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...mplete-rebuild
            Minn Kota 599 Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...ta-599-project

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            • #7
              Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

              Here is the Tom Boy Boat motor and trailer as I bought it and brought it home...

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              Tom Boy Boat Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...s-what-trailer
              Rebuilt trailer project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/gener...r-back-to-life
              '76 40 HP Johnson rebuild https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...mplete-rebuild
              Minn Kota 599 Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...ta-599-project

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              • #8
                Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

                What are your plans for the boat? Paint?

                Have you checked for rot? (transom)

                What does the inside look like?
                I consider overkill a job well done... plus a little extra.

                There's as many ways to do something as there is people to tell you how to do it... but not all of them are the right way.

                The drinking and debauchery will continue until morale improves... and maybe for a little while after.

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                • #9
                  Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

                  Yes I do plan on painting the outside and maybe use carpet over gelcoat finish on the inside after all the proper structual work is finished.

                  Here are a few pictures of the inside. Notice the transom repair work from the PO.

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                  It looks like the PO tried to repair the transom using some 2 by wood and latex paint. No telling how long the transom was rotted out, or the floors...
                  Tom Boy Boat Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...s-what-trailer
                  Rebuilt trailer project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/gener...r-back-to-life
                  '76 40 HP Johnson rebuild https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...mplete-rebuild
                  Minn Kota 599 Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...ta-599-project

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                  • #10
                    Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

                    Okay, After removing all seats hardware and controls and cleaning out tons of junk, I did finally remove the Johnson 40 HP outboard and examined the transom closer. I think there is some problems here. What you all think? Here are some pictures.

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                    Notice the PO attempt at a repair towards the front deck also. I think I have a LOOOTTTT of work ahead of me. What was that light in the tunnel again...OH yea, A TRAIN...
                    Tom Boy Boat Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...s-what-trailer
                    Rebuilt trailer project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/gener...r-back-to-life
                    '76 40 HP Johnson rebuild https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...mplete-rebuild
                    Minn Kota 599 Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...ta-599-project

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                    • #11
                      Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

                      You stole that boat for $600!... I especially like the gang nails hold the transom 2x's together!

                      You're just at the tip of the ice berg right now.

                      It looks to me like you have a 2 piece "cap and hull" construction, with the "cap" actually being the inside deck mold. When you seperate the 2 you should find lots of nice goodies in there like rotten mushy stringers and glassed in plywood decking, and rancid waterlogged floatation foam.

                      Seperating the cap and hull should be a nice little chore in itself... it should be FUN! Start by removing the aluminum gunwale/rubrail and see where that leads you.

                      We'll be here for tech support and to watch the train wreck as it unfolds.
                      I consider overkill a job well done... plus a little extra.

                      There's as many ways to do something as there is people to tell you how to do it... but not all of them are the right way.

                      The drinking and debauchery will continue until morale improves... and maybe for a little while after.

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                      • #12
                        Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

                        Cool older boat, that seems to have some custom features. I didn't see the steering wheel on that boat up front. Is it removed or just not used? Either way have fun with her.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

                          Originally posted by greenbush future View Post
                          I didn't see the steering wheel on that boat up front. Is it removed or just not used?
                          It's a stick steer, you can see the steering stick on the port side in the first 2 picks in post #9... the throttle and shifter are on the starboard side.
                          I consider overkill a job well done... plus a little extra.

                          There's as many ways to do something as there is people to tell you how to do it... but not all of them are the right way.

                          The drinking and debauchery will continue until morale improves... and maybe for a little while after.

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                          • #14
                            Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

                            Hello Greenbush Future, yes it is stick steering but I have already removed all those control cables and wiring and seats, hardware and everything in preparation for much work to do on this boat.

                            I used a Dremel Multi-Max tool and removed the inside fiberglass skin on the transom. WOW! I was thinking that the transom was all rotted out and would need replaced. Lucky me with some spackle and some duct tape I beleive it will be okay.



                            I know you all hear of a game called Wack-A-Mole, well I was playing Wack-A-Roach. Seems they were living in that transom and once exposed they were running everywhere. But with my trusty rubber dead-blow hammer and quick reflexes, I got to play Wack-A-Roach for a while.

                            I have a question. I have read many transom replacements on these forums and rebuild projects and was wondering if anybody ever replace one with a build up of 1708 cloth and polyester resin, no wood at all? Or has anybody thought about Polycarbonate (lexan) or even Phonlic and 1708. If there is nothing in the transom to rot, would it not last forever then? Just wondering...

                            I guess I see a new transom in the master plan now...
                            Tom Boy Boat Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat...s-what-trailer
                            Rebuilt trailer project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/gener...r-back-to-life
                            '76 40 HP Johnson rebuild https://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...mplete-rebuild
                            Minn Kota 599 Project https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...ta-599-project

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                              Re: 1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

                              It would take many, many, many lams of 1708 & resin to create a transom that is 1.5". SeaCast is a poly resin based product that has been used by some to replace the wood in the transom. It is often 'poured' between the inner & outer fiberglass skins, 1 of which you removed....

                              It is not inexpensive or particularly easy to complete. Having to refab an interior skin complicates it further. But it can still be done..

                              Use the advanced search feature of the forum & search: Seacast
                              Money spent @ Boat Restoration should be measured in Smiles & Pride SHOP IBOATS-BOAT SPECS-FORUM HELP-REPAIR/RESTO

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