What do you pull your boat with?

Vegas Naturist

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Re: What do you pull your boat with?

The DEF injection reduces the need for regeneration (heating exhaust with fuel) by as much as 90%, thus the increase in MPG by not wasting fuel.

Ummm, not exactly. The DPF and DEF systems are separate systems and perform completely different functions, and one does not effect the function of the other. In diesel exhaust, there are two things that need to be cleaned up in order to meet the new EPA requirements. Particulates (solids, think soot) and gases (primarily NoX).

The DPF traps the solids in a ceramic honycomb section. This will eventually increase the exhaust back pressure and the DPF clogs. When the back pressure reaches a specific parameter, the ECM commands a regeneration. It injects raw fuel into the exhaust stream. This raw fuel contacts a special metal coated plate, which through a chemical reaction, generated super high heat (upwards of 2,000 deg), like the end of a burning cigar. This incenerates the solids into ash, which stays trapped in the honycomb. Eventually, the DPF must be dismantled and the ash removed via a special process off the vehicle. On heavy duty diesels this happens +/- 70k miles.

The DEF system is used to remove the gases. DEF (urea and purified water) is constantly injected in to the exhaust stream and contacts another specially coated plate that is similar to a pipe with tiny holes. Another chemical reaction takes place and converts the NoX into nitrogen and water vapor. You will use 1% to 3% DEF per gallon of fuel depending on certian variables.

The increase in fuel economy is not directly related to either system. Hardware and software upgrades is more responsible for increased fuel economy to compensate, and to meet .gov standards. They are metering fuel darn near at a molecular level on the most modern engines.

John
 

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The increase in fuel economy is not directly related to either system. Hardware and software upgrades is more responsible for increased fuel economy to compensate, and to meet .gov standards. They are metering fuel darn near at a molecular level on the most modern engines.
Actually you both have it a little wrong. "DEF" (Selective Catalytic Reduction, or SCR, DEF is the reductant, Urea/Water) allows injection timing to be advanced to levels not seen since the '90s. This advanced injection timing is much more efficient for fuel use, but produces high NOx levels. Typically around 8 grams per hp/hr is considered the most efficient. So engine out NOx is now higher, but the SCR system is very effective at reducing NOx so they can get away with it as tailpipe NOx must be under .2 grams/hp/hr. Hence significantly better efficiency.
 

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2007 Ram 2500 Mega Cab (Cummins)

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I pull our Celebrity 190CX with a '05 Nissan Titan 4x4. The truck has the towing package and is really set-up for pulling our 6000+ lb, '27 travel trailer. Pulling the boat is not a problem :cool:.

-RW

Pull my Celebrity 210V with 06' Titan. does quite well. Love that truck:joyous:
 

mudeater

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The boats a 1996 Four Winns Horizon 220dlx with the 5.8FSI
I started out with my 1997 chevy k1500 z71. It pulled it well but with a 24X,XXX on the clock it seemed like it always needed work.

I replaced it in Nov with a 2012 Chevy Silverado LTZ 4x4 with the 6.2L and 3.73's. These were taken camping over the memorial day weekend.


The saddest part of a day on the lake.
 

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2002 GMC 2500HD Crew Cab Long bed. LB7 Duramax with EFI Live tuned by Longhorn Fab Shop, 4" turbo back exhaust, and intake horn mod. Oversized BFG All Terrains

Nothing like passing people going up the pass into the mountains while towing a boat. Or smoking out a road biker that is taking up a car lane in his cool jersey and spandex.
 

gorrilla

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I pull my 89 17 ft larson runabout 120 with a 93 jeep grand cherokee inline 6
 

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I pull the 17 foot MFG Caprice with a 2006 Chevy TrailBlazer 4x4 with trailer package. When the TrailBlazer is fully loaded with camping gear, the back end is a little heavy, but it does the trick. The inline 6 works great! I have no problem gettin of the line! 4x4 helps on the steep/wet ramps. I think that on the next vacation, I may switch to the 2011 Chevy Silverado Ext cab 1500 8 foot bed 5.3l Z71 4x4, just to be on the safe side!

Update,
We still have the TrailBlazer and it works fine still, minus the trailer light issue I found on the truck side. But I had to update the truck part of this post. We took the 2011 Silverado camping this year, worked great, but somehow while driving around in town, the torque converter went bad! Thats what the dealer said, not sure if I believe it, but whatever. They couldnt fix it but the time I needed to be home for work.... so, I bought a 2014 Silverado 2500 HD CrewCab 6 foot bed 4x4 Z71. That had no problem taking everything home!
 
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We tow our 2003 Suncruiser Trinidad 222 pontoon boat with our 2008 Toyota Tundra 5.7 with tow package -- I never go over 60mph on the highway when I'm towing ANY trailer.

•All "ST" tires have a maximum speed rating of 65 mph.
•As heat builds up, the tire's structure starts to disintegrate and weaken.
•The load carrying capacity gradually decreases as the heat and stresses generated by higher speed increases.
 

mpdive

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2013 F150 EcoBoost. YEA BABY!!!!!!:D
 

natureschild88

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Had a 17' Galaxie and a 20' Welcraft that were both pulled by my 2004 FX4 F-150. Made many trips with the Welcraft from San Diego to Lake Havasu and Lake Mead with no problems. Now have a 20' Larson that gets pulled by a 1999 F-150. Both trucks had the 5.4 V8, never had an issue with either truck.
 

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I tow my 18' Invader with a 4.0L Jeep Cherokee 4x4. Pulls it very well.
 

younggun

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I tow my 18.5 ft 92 skeeter 175sf bass boat with a late 99 f350 4x4 dually. Don't even know the boat is hardly back there the truck is mainly used to haul 20-25 thousand pounds of cows so the boat is nothing to it
 

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I usually pull my 1986 Bayliner with 125 Force with my 2000 Town Car... Pulls just fine, whether it is up the ramp out of the water, or down the freeway at 70....

It is interesting at the ramp parking lots...full of pickups and SUVs... then my little ole' car!

I recently did get a funny look at the boat ramp from a young couple with an older small pickup (probably with a 6 cyl engine) taking out a small aluminum fishing boat... they said to me they could not believe I was pulling a boat so much bigger than theirs (mine is 18') with just a car... My 5000 lb Lincoln with 4.3L V8 probably weighed twice what their little pickup did, and has a heck of a lot more horses...

All I could do was smile and say "Well, one day I might be able to get a pickup to tow it with" :laugh:

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2005 Pontiac Vibe 5 speed. Only going to pull a small runabout or a 14' tinny fishing boat.
 
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