Walmart's at it again....

Twidget

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I hope they dont think they will get away with their antics over here
Im sure it will get there eventually. My Father in Law worked for Wal Mart in Germany. He was a regional theft prevention rep.(Sorry, I cant remember the real name) He quit this spring because of his work load, EU taxation and general BS from the corporation. He is a retired army officer, so his BS level is pretty high.
 

salty87

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this isn't about being on call....walmart wants workers to be available to work when they need them. what's so bad about that?<br /><br />what boss is going to hire employees that aren't available to work during peak hours? that's like a bar owner hiring a bunch of people who want to work 9-5.
 

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Originally posted by RubberFrog:<br />If I can't afford something, I don't buy it.
I have 2 kids that I wish would adopt same attitude.
 

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Stumpy's,<br /><br />Your son should check the labor laws in your state. Each state is different, but most have a policy of overtime after so many hours in a row, or so many hours per week.<br /><br />Wally World has to follow the laws of your state, and I doubt if the laws allow them to defer payment for hours worked to a different, and later, pay period. They may be able to reduce hours, but if the pay should have been at time and a half, they are required to repay that at time and a half.
 

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NOTICE TO EMPLOYEES: The whippings will continue until Morale improves!!!!
 

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Damn....never thought 1 of my post's would get this much attention.<br /><br />I can tell you I will NEVER work retail! Especially when someone wants me to give up (or they control my time) with my family!<br /><br />I have too many other talents to resort to working for low pay with no respect from my employer. <br /><br />I understand they have customers....but it all comes down to PLANNING. The company I work for (and I'm in management) build multi-million dollar chemical plants, power plants, refineries, etc). It all comes down to planning! If you can't plan, you can't execute!<br /><br />sounds like Wally World needs managment training and better PR!
 

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It seems to reason that planning, or scheduling, is dern difficult if your employees are prone to sick calls. Or clocking in late because "sdfsd". Or just not showing up for their scheduled work hours. This applies to salaried as well as hourly employees. <br /><br />Seems that WW wishes to scrape bottom for employees, pay low, and offer little if any benneys. Since WW chooses to behave in this fashion, they get what they recruit.<br /><br />In addition, in Wisconsin WW employees are one of the largest portion of residents who feed on Wisconsin's "Badger Care" State funded medical provider resources. In effect, we Wisconsin tax payers are subsidizing WW employees medical benefits. Seems to me that a HUGE company like WW can pony up for a larger portion of their employees Med costs. <br /><br />Damn shame.
 

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Oh yea, BTW, were WW employees to become represented (read Union), the Medical Benefits would be part of the negotiated package I will assume.<br /><br />Then the remaining private tax payers (me and mine) would not be subsidizing Wisconsin WW employees medical needs.
 

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I worked retail in college, it was as JB described you work when scheduled but you gotta be available to be scheduled anytime the store is open.<br /><br />I read the article, I thought they gotta be "on-call" as in ready to come in at a moments notice. <br /><br />Y'all reminded me there are jobs requiring "on-call" 24/7, but c'mon, we're talking about Wal-mart jobs here.<br /><br />That guy's name gave it a sound of a hoax, too, "John Knuckles." If you made that up nobody would believe it.<br /><br />[just in case John Knuckles reads this: no offense intended, Mr. Knuckles, sir]
 

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I can hear the phone call now, "Yes we need you there is a clean up on aisle 6,...What? you're at your daughter's birthday party?... Get here now or consider yourself gone."<br /><br />And by the way, what kills me is when I exit WalMart, there is a blue hair telling me "Thanks and come back", to which I respond "Ain't got no where else to go, anymore!". <br /><br />The Corporation, IMHO, could be viewed as a Socialist State, if one thought about it for a little.<br /><br />Collective Bargaining is the best thing that ever happened for the American worker. <br /><br />I have seen where a store in, as best I can remember, New England, wanted to unionize, and Wally closed the store. Well close them all.<br /><br />I am a proud member of IBEW #2040, and I provide the best I can to my employer. And I recieve a FAIR wage, and benefit package. I accomodate the special situations that arise as best as I can while I am at work, but when I'm off, then I am off.<br /><br />And I know how to do my job.
 

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Originally posted by KeltonKrew:<br /> <br />"It shouldn't cause any problem, if they are concerned about their customers," Knuckles said. <br />
Sure, you care about my interests, while I walk all over you. A little one way if I may say so.
 

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Originally posted by Homerr:<br /> I tend to agree.. If you don't like the schedule, then don't work there. Simple as that.<br />
Unfortunately for many people it isn't simple as that. The job market must be there to be able ot up and leave. Not everyone can be a radio DJ, or a Talk show host. Some people have neither the skils or the opportunities to work somewhere else. When Walmart comes in and drives out the M&P stores, then who is there to work for? And no one can deny this logic, at least not with any merit.
 

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Originally posted by DJ:<br />
When this many hits come to a Corporation like Walmart one has to wonder what % of the hits are true. Like seeing one fly, then 10,000. There has to be some poop somewhere.<br /><br />
A "target rich" environment has nothing to do with the truth.<br /><br />It's all "agenda" based.
(Personal insult deleted) A legitimate situation would not draw so much attention. NYM was right, and very illustrative in his example. If Walmart was so innocent, then why are they spending so much on their image campaign?
 

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Oh yea, BTW, were WW employees to become represented (read Union), the Medical Benefits would be part of the negotiated package I will assume.<br />Then the remaining private tax payers (me and mine) would not be subsidizing Wisconsin WW employees medical needs.
The problem is that you would still be subsidizing the medical package. <br />*If Walmart wasn't in your state those employees would still be on Wisconsins Med. program. Either by working at another minimum wage job or by being unemployed.<br />*If the Walmart employees were to become unionized that benefit package cost would be passed on directly on to the consumer.<br />*Additionally, if the skill level requirements that only pay minimum wage/benefits at Walmart automatically justify representation. Then all minimum wage/benefit jobs automatically deserve representation. If all entry level, minimum wage/benefit received union scale and benefits.<br />The price of a hamberger, gallon of milk and gas, essentially everything will now have the additional cost of a union medical benefit, at your expense, as in subsidized, by you.<br />*Since many Walmart employees aren't the primary wage earner in the family, it's doubtful these people qualify for the States program. <br />Where if the unionization of minimum wage/benefit workforce were to blossom the net result would be much more expensive for(you)all consumers.<br /><br />The only winners would be the unions themselves.<br /><br />
If Walmart was so innocent, then why are they spending so much on their image campaign?
Because organized labor has so much to gain that the battle is truely on. Big labor has its gloves off and has the media (propaganda machine) in overdrive. Remember Walmart is accused of things that it's competitors do also, yet we never hear these charges against the competition.<br />This is the best weapon in the unions arsenal, "divide and conquer" and "us against them".<br /><br />
The Corporation, IMHO, could be viewed as a Socialist State, if one thought about it for a little.<br />
That's a twist. <br />And if we were all union, we all had union jobs. What kind of state would we be in? Think about that for a while and you can come up with a Socialist State. <br />Actually there as a model for us to follow if you'd like. Germany, England, France, highly union, low worker production, low GDP, high unemployment, astronomical taxes, and as compared to the US, fragile, mediocre economys. And again Socialist States.<br /><br />BTW, the final union vote at our Kalifornia dealership? 37 nay, 1 yea.<br />We all realized we had the power to represent ourselves.........
 

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quote Skinny: "*If the Walmart employees were to become unionized that benefit package cost would be passed on directly on to the consumer."<br /><br />The Badger Care cost is passed on, not only to those who are WW customers, but to all taxpayers in WI. Thus, Like it or not, we are paying an additional cost that is not reflected in the sticker price of an WW item. Yet WW is the financial winner. Business tactics such as WWs have ensured that WW is the worlds largest retailer.<br /><br />And I remain, if ya do not like WW employment requirements, then do not work there. But the likes of WW should not expect me the consumer to subsidize their workfarces health care costs.
 

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The Corporation, IMHO, could be viewed as a Socialist State, if one thought about it for a little.
OMG???!!!!!! :confused: :eek: :mad: :eek: :( :confused: :confused: <br /><br />Doesn't that bother anyone else?????? <br />This is what the Constitution protects? A guy's right to believe in Communism/Socialism? Oh yeah, that's right it does. Sure is nice you can say things like that isn't it, Strato? If we were in a Socialist State, you wouldn't be able to!<br />A Corporation has only one obligation, to make a profit for itself/it's owners. Anyone who thinks it has a social obligation to care for it's employees missed Econ 101, and life.<br />Sorry Strato, you missed the boat big time. And I am sure we can never see eye to eye on this. Hope you have a good day.
 

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I can understand what Strato is saying the corporate world is starting to take over the free America world. Money talks and the government will side with corporate way before they'll side with Joe Blow off the street. Take a look at the guy who said no one could smoke any more including personal time. So if your working for him and you have 20to30 yrs with him and your to old to start somewhere else you either give up something you have done for 50+ yrs or your fired for doing something on your own time. I am not saying smoking is good that's not the topic. What I am saying is it right for a corporation to dictate to us on how we live when not at work? WalCrap has alot of power way to much in my opinion, how much power should a corporation have? Should a corporation have any power over the individual{while not at work} or should they just worry about what business they are in?
 

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"But the likes of WW should not expect me the consumer to subsidize their workfarces health care costs."<br /><br />Who do you think pays these costs, the company? Try again. Prices go up.<br /><br />"What I am saying is it right for a corporation to dictate to us on how we live when not at work?"<br /><br />Who is trying to tell them what they can't do? WM's telling them to show up at work, and that's going to be when the store is busy. Some of you guys would make great bosses but terrible businesspeople. I can see it now..."show up whenever you want, cause I can't tell you when to come in"!?!?? wtf?<br /><br />Alot of people, it seems, hear or read the name Wal Mart and already consider them to be the villain. Customers are what have made Wal Mart the biggest business around. And, there must be alot of them. If you shop there, how can you complain?
 

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20/20<br />If what the employee does on their own time effects the company’s financial standings then I say yes. We introduced a "Drug Free" policy, which included pre-employment and random drug testing. This reduced the companies medical insurance cost. The savings more than paid (by 4 times) for the drug testing. If going "tobacco free" generates additional savings then the company has the right to implement the policy. How ever I can see allowing "Smoking Employees" the option of paying the difference in the medical cost rather than forfeiting their employment.
 

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quote salty: "Who do you think pays these costs, the company? Try again. Prices go up."<br /><br />yep, and ONLY the consumers who purchase said products pay. Not the entire taxpaying citizenry of Wisconsin.<br /><br />quote pjc: "The Badger Care cost is passed on, not only to those who are WW customers, but to all taxpayers in WI. Thus, Like it or not, we are paying an additional cost that is not reflected in the sticker price of an WW item. Yet WW is the financial winner. Business tactics such as WWs have ensured that WW is the worlds largest retailer"
 
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