Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

[Nos4r2]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

Any news?

 

[JRJ]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

On another forum, there was a thread about fishing line messing up prop seals on early 250's. Maybe the problem here?

 

[wilde1j]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

maj75, I'm very interested in how you make out ... I'm considering buying a pair of CR DF175's. Could you send me an email when this sorts out? Tkx.<br /><wilde1j@hotmail.com><br /><br />Good luck!

 

[joeboata]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

Any word on how this matter turned out? Do Suzuki's have a bonding problem? Paint problem? Metallurgical problem? Installation error? Operator error? Stray current issue? etc. Inquiry minds want to know. Thank-you!

 

[clanton]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

There is a bulletin about the bonding wires, something must have happen.

 

[Kanadakid]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

Go get em major ! You are going to win I am posiitve. They don't win no matter what. <br /><br />I wouldn't buy a suzuki engine if they were the only engine made. That is what they lost already. <br /><br />As for the old parts...no way OJ. They had their chance to prove that is was not their fault.<br /><br />They denied the claim. They must show proof that it was in fact not their fault. Not after the fact but when it was in their possetion.<br /><br />There is no ....well let us stude the parts again. They made their bed....they have to sleep in it.<br /><br />They will get the chance to rebutt what your experts say was the cause.<br /><br />This thing will never go to the mat.....they will settle, if they are smart.<br /><br /><br />Kid

 

[admar]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

wow! all this discussion and no one has even asked the big one yet, so here goes. did you ever consider reading suzuki's warranty coverage statement prior to reading the sales contract for the boat show promotion? if you had, would you still have purchased them, knowing that corrosion failures are not warrantable as provided in their written statement of warranty?? <br />personal responsiblty is disapearing faster in this country than cold beer on a hot day in august.

 

[maj75]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

That's not what the warranty said. It said that "normal" corrosion is not covered. The question under the warranty was whether the corrosion failure I experienced was "normal" or something more than normal.<br /><br />The warranty language was not the problem. It was the interpretation that was the problem.<br /><br />The lawsuit has been settled. Legally, I can not discuss the terms of the settlement.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

That means that you must have gotten the gearcases (maybe even new motors), but they don't want you to spread the news.

 

[31900]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

It looks like Kid was right, they settled and the Major is satisfied. What a pity that one has to fight all the way.

 

[Kanadakid]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

CONGRATULATIONS Major ! Thanks for fighting the good fight it helps everyone !<br /><br />Kid

 

[jprasisto]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

I know you said you can't discuss the details of the settlement but can you give us any "lessons learned".(storage, bonding,adding zincs....)Don't want to know the outcome since you can't say! I just called Suzi as I have twin DF 140's in saltwater and also sit about 2 inches into the water while raised. There is a bonding wire from the bracket to the zinc and I also add zincs to my trim tabs. Anyway, Suzi said they have no info regarding corrosion issues

 

[maj75]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

Sorry for the delay in responding, I'm having too much fun with my Scout 280 Abaco w/250 Yamaha 4 strokes!<br /><br />My advice, test your lower units for electrical continuity with your engine bracket (part of motor assembly bolted to transom/bracket) zinc's. Take a multimeter and check the resistance between the lower gearcase and the zincs on the bracket. Should be little to no resistance. If there is resistance, the bonding wires are not making a good electrical connection. I ended up using heavier guage stainless bonding wiring and new connectors to make a good connection from the lower gearcase to the middle section to the powerhead and then the bracket.

 

[rodbolt]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

but always remember, no matter how well its bonded if the anode is not in the water its usless.<br /> I see it a lot.<br />corrosion and marine growth are a fact of life in the warm salt pond, steps need to be taken to minimize the damage both can cause.<br /> when that shiney trim ram is left extended for periods of time growth on it will trash not only the shaft but the shaft seals when the trim is retracted. if your trim rams are under water always retract them.

 

[maj75]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

The zincs on the bottom of the engine bracket will be underwater, if the boat is in the water.<br /><br />Your advice is directly opposite of what I was told by the Suzuki rep. I was putting the trailer lock on and retracting the trim rams, and was told NOT to do this. Your advice is the same as the advice I got from the Yam/Suz repair guy. My problem was that with the engines installed, the rams were below the waterline. The slightest barnacle growth would damage the seals and they would leak.<br /><br />There is no practical way to protect these trim rams from galvanic corrosion. Due to the seals used in the system, they are electrically isolated from the bonding system.

 

[rodbolt]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

and thats why its critical to retract them there is a device made out of PVC I saw the other day that slips between the trim cam and bracket that allows the bracket and the cap to support the motor with the rams retracted.<br /> if you try a piece of PVC pipe make sure it cannot make contact with the cap seals.<br /> if your engines lower units wont tilt all the way out of the water paint the part in the water with the correct antifouling paint. <br /> make sure the lower unit and whatever anodes are still in the water are bonded.

 

[boatmon345]

Re: Suzuki 4-Stroke Corrosion Disaster

After reading this fiasco I advised my neighbor the harm that can occur. <br /><br />I was shocked to see no action taken:<br />

<br /><br />motors in the water, lift cradle in the water, shore power connected (right side of boat, between the two right lift posts)