"SUPER STORM" for the northeast?

aspeck

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The eye of Sandy is south of us now. We have faired much better than those to our east. Power outages, minor flooding, trees down, some damaged homes, but not nearly as bad as it could have been. Definitely fortunate. Got a couple hours sleep and are now waiting for the calls of people waking up to water in basement. Area rivers will be cresting early this afternoon about 1.5-3' above flood stage.

snow to the west of us. One fatality, a car slid in the snow/slush and went off the road and into a pond. Driver made it out of car, passenger did not. Just heard 16 deaths attributed to Sandy.

my thoughts and prayers are with Angus and others along the NY/NJ coast.
 

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So far, last night we had a few roof leaks at my night job. Wind was blowing water between parking lot and building so a few stock rooms got a little wet. Nothing major yet there.

Had a small swimming pool where the drainage ditch used to be. Lots of wind, had to crank the electric heat to stay warm as the windows were letting a lot of the warm air out of the apartment building. This morning there was more wind on the way into work. I passed a few downed trees. Rain just picked up here again.

Surrounded by flood warnings. Creeks/Rivers were high but not over their banks yet.

Everyone else, stay safe!!!
 

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I've been trying to keep up with all the news pouring in: Best wishes Angus, JD and everyone else over there.
 

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Best wishes Angus, JD and everyone else over there.

Thanks. Looks like I got out with my wallet relatively unscathed.
 

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Thanks. Looks like I got out with my wallet relatively unscathed.

Nice - so all the pilings stayed put and you just need to replace the connecting boards and decking?
 

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Thanks. Looks like I got out with my wallet relatively unscathed.

Wow. I'm surprised those boats are still there. Considering what I'm seeing on tv, your good........

I see Michigan is getting a bunch of rain and some snow too from the storm. East half of WI just has overcast skies from Sandy. One heck of a storm. Stay "safe" you guys out east........
 

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JD - Nice. Now go buy a lottery ticket :D
 

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JD, looks like you are gonna have to restring your decorative lights! Yep, I would say you dodged a bullet there, my friend ... good for you! Hoping all is well for Angus ...

Only down side here was we were hoping to get to play with the new rescue boats ... Another guy was captaining the inflatable (he was a rescue trainer on them in the service) and I was to man the tinny ... but the fact we did not is a very good thing.

Now we have to wait for our maiden rescues ...
 

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JD, looks like you are gonna have to restring your decorative lights!

That reminds me....

The 2012 Nanticoke Halloween Party is postponed indefinitely due to weather. :rolleyes:

BTW, I recommend Magnum Boat Lifts, made by Boat Lifts Unlimited in Maryland.
They stay put even if the pier washes away.
The little 2-piling lift is the MiniMag 2800. The bigger 4-piling lift is the Magnum S 8000lb.
 

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gtochris

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We parked our boat in the middle of the front yard and strapped the cover down tight to the trailer, cleared our yard, tied down all furnature and lawn items.
It was the most outragious storm I've ever been through, sounded like a freight train horn at times! TONS of trees down in our NW New Jersey Neighborhood, no idea when we will get power back.
 

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Glad you guys did ok. Just imagine what a cat3 is like.
 

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Glad you guys did ok. Just imagine what a cat3 is like.

I agree .. best wishes for everyone that was/will be affected by this.

Please keep in mind that there is still a whole lot of water up there .. it Might come down because this thing ( not Sandy anymore ) is over land and mixing with high pressure.

We could be seeing a few tornadoes.

The thing about a Cat 1 or a Cat 3 .. well this was a cat 3 cane for some. Others it was a Cat 4.

Its all about location location location.

When the wind changes is the time to worry. The first direction loosens things up .. when the wind changes to another direction is when things really start to fly and cause significant damage/injury. Dont be fooled when they say your on the 'weak' end of the storm. It can be much more dangerous then the front end.

Please still stay safe and informed. It may not be over for YOU yet..

YD.

YD.
 

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Glad you guys did ok. Just imagine what a cat3 is like.

This was just as bad because of the unusually high barometric pressure
Yet, the superstorm's climbing barometric pressure is more typical of category 3 or category 4 storms, making it likely that Hurricane Sandy will rank relatively high on the list of the most intense hurricanes to hit the U.S. since 1851.
According to a recent bulletin from NOAA's National Hurricane Center, Hurricane Sandy's minimum central pressure is hovering around 940 millibars. Comparatively, Hurricane Katrina, which hit Louisiana and Mississippi in 2005, was classified as a category 3 hurricane with a barometric pressure of 920 millibars -- making it slightly more intense than Hurricane Sandy's present levels.



Maximum Snowfall

Katrina: 0 inches

Irene: 0 inches

Sandy: 24+ inches




Top Wind Speed

Katrina: 125 mph

Irene: 85 mph

Sandy: 90 mph



Diameter (extent of high winds)

Katrina: 400 miles

Irene: 520 miles

Sandy: 940 miles



Atmospheric Pressure

Katrina: 920 millibars (lower is stronger)

Irene: 951 millibars

Sandy: 940 millibars (lowest ever, north of North Carolina)

Typical at sea level: 1013 millibars

Storm Surge

Katrina: 14 feet, funneling to 28 feet at New Orleans

Irene: 8 feet

Sandy: 13 feet

Deaths

Katrina 1,833

Irene: 56

Sandy: 69 Caribbean, 16 U.S. as of Oct. 30 a.m.
 

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whatever happened to that crane that was hanging loose in NY?
 

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This was just as bad because of the unusually high barometric pressure
Yet, the superstorm's climbing barometric pressure is more typical of category 3 or category 4 storms, making it likely that Hurricane Sandy will rank relatively high on the list of the most intense hurricanes to hit the U.S. since 1851.

According to a recent bulletin from NOAA's National Hurricane Center, Hurricane Sandy's minimum central pressure is hovering around 940 millibars. Comparatively, Hurricane Katrina, which hit Louisiana and Mississippi in 2005, was classified as a category 3 hurricane with a barometric pressure of 920 millibars -- making it slightly more intense than Hurricane Sandy's present levels.

Most of us do not understand the Nature of Millibars and Barometric Pressure.. Or the affects or how that equates to rise of water within a Storm.

Think of it as Vacuum ( Very large one ) sucking up water level that is not normal to natural sea level out at sea. Then pull that Vacuum into a land mass. Well the land is at 0 or less feet at natural sea level. Now you pick up some Mass of water ( like an Inverted balloon ) with a low pressure system ( Like Sandy ) .. then throw it at a land mass which is at 0" or lower ( like New Orleans ) .. what do you have .. Flooding.

If the Storm has Vacuum .. then your gonna get hit with a "surge" .. that means its gonna carry water up to whatever that Vacuum creates. .. then on top of that you have the Waves/Wakes .. level water at this time (+15 plus high waves ) will create Very bad conditions.

Surge=your new water level .. 15' wakes on top of that is what is gonna do that damage .. In and out.. In and out .. so-on.

I guess Im getting a little too much.. but ..

Please Still stay Safe...

YD.
 

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I always thought the majority of the surge is caused by the wind. Just thinking off the top of my head, it would seem to me the pressure difference wouldn't even make up more than a foot or two of surge.
 
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