"SUPER STORM" for the northeast?

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most of the people on here dont know what its like to live hand to mouth. you get payed on friday and by saturday the bills are payed and your broke. so when a storm comes what should you do. if you leave home theres no way you can stay in a hotel and to be honest if you do go to the hotel then you can not get back home for the first week at least and thats where the help is going to be at. fema doesnt send food and stuff to the people who are living in hotels miles away just because there homes and jobs are affected by the storm.
alot of people in ny dont have cars so theres a major problem to start with and generators realy are no help unless you have a place to put it and all the stuff needed to use one. the last bad storm in florida i had at least 20 people come to me at work who had a genny that didnt have a plug that would fit it or a cord to use. should people get out of the way of a storm.....yes but where do you run to......in florida we are use to bad storms so people do prep especially as we all have the left over stuff from the last one. but if they said that once in my life time there might be a super storm would i prep for it.
 

dingbat

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So what do the people that live in apartments do?

Wondering how you'd protect your fuel and generator from an 8' storm surge when live at 4' elevation and are forced to evacuate to a shelter?
 

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Wondering how you'd protect your fuel and generator from an 8' storm surge when live at 4' elevation and are forced to evacuate to a shelter?
Stilts? :)
 

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In SC, if there is a forecast of ice and/or snow, there is a stampede to the stores to buy bread and milk. Just a ritual that has been passed on from generation to generation. LOL
 

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That ritual is the same in the north ... we laugh because there is a forecast of a couple inches of snow, no big deal, but the stores are emptied of all their milk! LOL!
 

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Water is The best bet. WATER I tells ya :) .

If you have water you will find peeps that will gladly befriend you.

Rice and Beans ( or raman noodles for them cold dins ) will go a long way without too much storage area needed. Keep a 5 gal bucket of each and your good to go as long as you have Water.

Canned goods .. A good boating trick is to take the label off.. mark the top with a marker .. then clear coat over the ends. That way you can tell what your going to open up.

Mac and cheese. .. Very good quick din din but too bulky in there boxes ( dry powder or instant cheese mix ). Empty the noodle contents into 1 gal bags or a dry storage container. When you empty the noodles into the bag .. note how many Cups it took for that package/mix ratio for further cooking.

I hear more and more about how others just dont have the room or finances to "prep". I simply do not agree.

As boaters We know how to Store stuff. You should Never take on board Paper Food containers ( Mac and cheese boxes, Pop Tart boxes etc .. ) as they can hold Eggs for Roaches and other insects from the factory for example. Not good on boats right..

Even if you buy your food/stores on a weekly budget .. Im sure most can find a way to spend an extra 5 bucks on 2-3 cans ( or more if you have coupons ) extra just to stash. Hell .. 5 bucks in rice goes a long way and is easy to pack into those nooks and crannies. Your stash can build up very fast just doing this. You dont have to go out and spend 400 bucks on food/water just when your looking at a bad time to come..

Think of it like camping .. Your gonna go camping in 4 months. .. then that camping trip is canceled from a call from your boss.. ok.. we go camping the next week after that .. then he calls you in again and again. Hey .. you can go camping whenever you want because your ON Call for camping now but your fully prepped for going camping at any time.

All Im saying is .. well .. that its very bad that people have to suffer needlessly. Its worse when people have to suffer when there is NO reason for it .. due to their xBoxes and flatscreens.

I should stop now..

YD.
 

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I think the problem lies in the fact people nowadays are conditioned to expect everything to be taken care of for them. Thoughts of preparedness in the event of a disaster or, perish the thought, self-defense are foreign to them.

What truly boggles my mind is these folks expect "the govt" to handle problems like this. HELLO? When was the last time the government did anything right?

Hey I gotta question: Why not have a small generator in your apartment? Open some windows'n crank that baby up!

Websters has definitions of looting and pillaging for a reason. They are what happen following a catastrophy. Y'all think it's bad now? Wait a few more days.

Be safe
 

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Hey I gotta question: Why not have a small generator in your apartment? Open some windows'n crank that baby up!

Be safe
I take it you have not heard of carbon monoxide before?
 
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its nice to see that they are behaving. i expected that it would be a war zone before now so im impressed. last storm we were warned at 40mph the police would leave the streets until the storm passed. we gave shelter to 6 cops and there cars inside a warehouse and at 45mph you could hear over the radio that the local walmart alarms had gone off as people had broke in because they needed supplys like plasma tv's to watch the news and car stereos so they could lissen to the radio weather forcast.
 

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That's why ya leave the windows open. Fyi carbon monoxide alarms are cheap as smoke alarms and should be in every home. Don't tell me that you haven't got one? Gasp!
 

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its nice to see that they are behaving. i expected that it would be a war zone before now so im impressed. last storm we were warned at 40mph the police would leave the streets until the storm passed. we gave shelter to 6 cops and there cars inside a warehouse and at 45mph you could hear over the radio that the local walmart alarms had gone off as people had broke in because they needed supplys like plasma tv's to watch the news and car stereos so they could lissen to the radio weather forcast.



Just did a little deeper into the online reports and blogs.
People living in the projects are going thru hell, beatings, robberies, looting, etc.


I have been stranded in the wilderness a couple times.
We survived on bread, butter, box cereal, water, and a few cans of veggies, for 3 days. I'm guessing we each ate about $10 worth of food. Heck, I lived on box cereal and juice for 3 days once, cause weather was too severe to fish or build a fire, and I was too lazy to drive to the store.
So yes, for $30, you can fill a box with enough food to last you a week.

I really feel for those of limited means that got caught up in this mess. The ones that couldn't get out, had no transportation, and nowhere to go, the people that rely on home health services and those that require medical transport, or dialysis treatments.

What confuses me is all the people of means, that did nothing to prepare, or evacuate.

For Pete's sake, at least take your $30,000 car and drive it to high ground. Now that is totaled too.

Also confused by the people coming out of their houses or apartments talking to the news crews; complaining that they have no shoes, or jackets, or blankets. Now I get that they have no electric or running water, but what happened to their shoes and jackets?


I truly hope everyone comes out of this mess with a greater respect for the strength and severity of mother nature.

Good luck to all impacted.
 

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I sure hope no one takes your advice. Simply amazing!


I think if they could interview past Darwin Award winners, the common thread would be:
"Hey, it'll never happen to me". :facepalm:
 

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There is a difference in mind set for the people in the city and those of the rural areas.

In the city things are minutes away and a corner store within walking distance, the rurals you stalk up because you probably have to drive.
 

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I am living it and let me shed some light from a first hand prospective.

Last August Hurricane Irene hit 20 miles west of me on Long Island with 75 mph winds. There was a 2-3 ft storm surge and a 50 mile path of power outages (about 750,000 homes affected). There was no significant flooding. Within 3-4 days almost all had power. People prepared with food and water, moved their vehicles, pulled boats, filled gas cans, etc... This storm barely made any news even though a hurricane hit the most densely populated place in the US. A week later you would never know a hurricane landed down the block.

Hurricane Sandy is a different animal. The storm had 200 miles of hurricane force winds for over 12 hrs over NJ, lower NY, Long Island, and Conn. A storm surge of 9-14 ft flooded the lower third of Manhattan, cutting power to 2 million people alone, filled every tunnel, and closed every bridge. The port of NY closed for 4 days to vessel traffic because navigation was hazardous as cars and houses floated in the port. Every subway and rail service in three states closed for 4 days. 100,000 homes in NY and NJ were destroyed or not inhabitable.

Storm surges of 7-11ft hit Long Island. The FEMA tidal graph near my home does not even go past 8 ft. 7.5 ft is the 500 yr FEMA Stillwater height. Water was over 9ft Tuesday morning.

Not being a rural area, the average home nearby sits on a 1/4 acre or less, usually alot less by the water. We don't have a barn, heck even alot don't have a garage. People in Condos, Co-ops and apartments have zero storage for storm prep.

People in urban and suburban communities prepared as they always do. Some water, bread, batteries, etc... expecting to be in the dark for a day or two if it was as bad as expected.

People in waterfront communities prepared like they normally do for storms by sandbagging the driveway. Moving the car to the next block. Stocking the cabinet. Checking the generator and the pump. Putting the boat back on the trailer. Putting 10-20 gallons of fuel in the garage for the genny. Boarding up the sliding glass doors. Etc...

Nobody prepared for Biblical flooding or for only 10% of gas stations being open after a week and only a small percentage of them getting fuel. No tankers in port fed the pipeline, no trucks supplied the stations for 5 days. All six local refineries shut for a few days also. Now that fuel is needed the most to run generators, the void in supply is causing some panic and inconvenience with long waits.

As others have alluded to earlier in this thread, it's difficult to imagine what this type of devastation is like. If it's hard to imagine, then it's not likely that anyone is fully prepared.

I wouldn't point a finger at those suffering for being unprepared for flooding that hasn't occurred in centuries.
 

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I agree RBH. We're 25 miles from a grocery store. We go shopping every Sunday. That's it until the following Sunday. About the only thing we run out of is milk. We like our milk.:) We do get low on other items. But, the pantry is usually full. So, we could get creative and last quite a while w/o going to the store.

What gets me is when they call for a blizzard, let's say, and the stores may not be accessible for a couple of days. People flock to them and empty out the shelves. I never understood why people couldn't last for a couple days. Maybe panic sets in. Running to the store would be the last thing we would do.

I will say, we only have 1 heat source, a propane run boiler w/electronic ignition. We lose power, we lose heat. That is just stupid up here in the snow belt. We are looking at propane wall mounted heaters as we speak that can run w/o electricity. Been rolling the dice way too long.

Still can't imagine going thru what the easterners just did. Especially the hardest hit areas. It's humbling to see the devastation on tv. Hang in there all. There will be light at the end of the tunnel(literally). We continue to pray for you guys.....
 

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Wimusky, why not get a wood stove?? there is always something to burn.


Angus, the suburbs are also another area I should have mentioned, not rural, but not metro.
 
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