Re: Prez Bush talks about Iraq
Well, SCO, to answer your question, every proposal this president has made, domestically, has been targeted to his conservative base, and his rhetoric has been targeted to the poll data on what is politically popular.<br />There were no exceptions in this recent speech.<br />There must be some reason this President has chosen Iraq as the most likely first target, and I still have not seen any evidence, and even Tony Blair in the last week has said there is no evidence Saddam has anything to do at all with Alqaida and 9/11.<br />Without any evidence, mentioning them in the same sentence is simple fear mongering.<br />So again there must be some reason beside what is stated for calling Saddam our "biggest, most immediate threat".<br />I have seen many conservatives in public opine that they get angry at OPEC's control over world oil prices, and postulate that once we get control of Iraq's oil production, OPEC will no longer be able to control prices as they have, and we can get oil prices down to the high teens, rather than the middle 20's to thirties a barrel we see with OPEC.<br />Both Bush and Cheney are initmately familiar with this industry, and these conservative postulations do not go unnoticed with them.<br />Now having oil prices down in the teens per barrel may well be a noble goal, but it is not the reason to start a war.
Well, SCO, to answer your question, every proposal this president has made, domestically, has been targeted to his conservative base, and his rhetoric has been targeted to the poll data on what is politically popular.<br />There were no exceptions in this recent speech.<br />There must be some reason this President has chosen Iraq as the most likely first target, and I still have not seen any evidence, and even Tony Blair in the last week has said there is no evidence Saddam has anything to do at all with Alqaida and 9/11.<br />Without any evidence, mentioning them in the same sentence is simple fear mongering.<br />So again there must be some reason beside what is stated for calling Saddam our "biggest, most immediate threat".<br />I have seen many conservatives in public opine that they get angry at OPEC's control over world oil prices, and postulate that once we get control of Iraq's oil production, OPEC will no longer be able to control prices as they have, and we can get oil prices down to the high teens, rather than the middle 20's to thirties a barrel we see with OPEC.<br />Both Bush and Cheney are initmately familiar with this industry, and these conservative postulations do not go unnoticed with them.<br />Now having oil prices down in the teens per barrel may well be a noble goal, but it is not the reason to start a war.
you on the "more democrat then I" comment you made to crab bait.<br /><br />"so - what did you think of the speech?"<br /><br />So we don't have any assumptions here, I voted for him. Bush has always struck me as the kind of guy that would be fun to spend the day with. I like the way he talks and I think he has deep convictions. His speech however pandered to the liberals in health care and aid to Africa. <br /><br />"does our constitution direct us to only concern ourselves with our country?<br />does it give direction on how to deal with being involved in a union of<br />nations, and what limits of responsibility we have to other countries?"<br /><br />Our military is supposed to be a defensive force. A "just cause" for war according to John Jay (Federalist Papers)is a direct attack or a violation of treaty.<br /> Article 1 section 8 states clearly the need of CONGRESS to debate the use of our military and wage war. The Constitution specifically prohibits the President in doing this. Again, we are a system of checks and balances. Weather you or I agree with this is not important. The President swears under oath to uphold this concept.<br />It's obvious that in the case of the terrorists we have a bonafide "just cause" and I'm all for it. As far as Iraq, I'm not so much against the attack as I am skeptical of the reasons set forth and our role as world police.<br /><br />Read Article 1 section 8 of The Constitution. It's pretty clear who has the responsability of wageing war.<br />This site explains our founding fathers view on specifically what you ask.<br /> 
