pic of work so far

zach103

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oh come on guys.. if you wanna do that. move over to the oops crew thread lol
 

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hows the sanding coming john?
 

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John you only got 8 more months to get that S-10 running and teach your wife how to pull the boat for your trip up here :eek::D
 

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John you only got 8 more months to get that S-10 running and teach your wife how to pull the boat for your trip up here :eek::D

HAhaha the way this year flew , it will be here tomorrow !!!still dont know what i am going to do with the sonoma ?? the grand prix could pull it also !!! 83 grand prix 60000 miles on her !! John
 

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Hay all !! well I havent done much on here this last 2 week , last tue, I did get some marine tex in some of the cracks and the holes , i will get some pics up here soon !! still got 2 days left of my 12 days off !! man i am loving this !! this is the frist time in a lot of year I havent worked before thanksgiving !!! the only bad thing is I have to work from wed till next tues, !!!!!!!!! John

Ps hunting did ok got two does , missed a nice 8 point !! still not done yet , theres a couple 12 points running around up in the thumb !!!
 

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Well today , got some more grinding done and worked a lot on the transom !! cleaned up all the marine tex,I cleaned up where i just slapped it on so we could get in the water !! man theres a lot of work to do on the transom , there is some shallow spots that need to be filled !!
there still a hole bunch of grinding to do !!
I will get some pics up tomorrow !!1
I was out there grinding and was thinking about gealcoating her??? Only for a min, but i was thinking !! hahah John
 
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try some gellcoat john !

just run down to a gellcoat store and get a small tin and some mekp.....mix it in small amounts and paint it on...!

just make sure that the lowest part of the paint is higher than the surrounding areas......(did i say that right?....the brush mark lows...must be higher than the surrounding gell coat).....any how...no lows !

when it cures....just sand smooth......take it to 1200 grit and its shiney for you.
 

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try some gellcoat john !

just run down to a gellcoat store and get a small tin and some mekp.....mix it in small amounts and paint it on...!

just make sure that the lowest part of the paint is higher than the surrounding areas......(did i say that right?....the brush mark lows...must be higher than the surrounding gell coat).....any how...no lows !

when it cures....just sand smooth......take it to 1200 grit and its shiney for you.

Is it like painting ????? I would need the two colors !! I dont know if i can get it locally ??

what am i going to do with spots i got in the splash well , where there on the side of it ?? would i need to fill them frist ????? I will get some pics up tomorrow !! thanks buddie !! John
 

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im not sure what spots your refering to...(in the splash well)

but one small can for about 10 bucks...(the size of a little plastic wood can....know what im talking about?).....and that would be enough to do the whole boat.........and you could do everyting in the pictures you posted, in about 15 minits.......its just like really thick paint.

imagine poly resin with hardner in it.....put it on with a small paint brush....and walk away.....come back in 30 mins and its cured !.....just sand smooth !

then you could paint over it....(ondarvr would be the best for suggestions on small amounts of what kind of paint would adhere correctly).

but you could get the paint to match the color....

so use white gellcoat....and paint the color on.....the white wont match perfectly....but neither will marine tex !....so ya gotta paint any way.

when you sand it....just take a small sanding block...and sand it smooth with the surrounding area......then if you are gonna paint it....leave it at 320 grit....or if you wanna see it get shiney and white....go to 1200 grit.
 

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and john.........i just noticed...


congratulations!

lieutennant commander.........your the same rank as data ! :D
good stuff bud....keep it up
 

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im not sure what spots your refering to...(in the splash well)

but one small can for about 10 bucks...(the size of a little plastic wood can....know what im talking about?).....and that would be enough to do the whole boat.........and you could do everyting in the pictures you posted, in about 15 minits.......its just like really thick paint.

imagine poly resin with hardner in it.....put it on with a small paint brush....and walk away.....come back in 30 mins and its cured !.....just sand smooth !

then you could paint over it....(ondarvr would be the best for suggestions on small amounts of what kind of paint would adhere correctly).

but you could get the paint to match the color....

so use white gellcoat....and paint the color on.....the white wont match perfectly....but neither will marine tex !....so ya gotta paint any way.

when you sand it....just take a small sanding block...and sand it smooth with the surrounding area......then if you are gonna paint it....leave it at 320 grit....or if you wanna see it get shiney and white....go to 1200 grit.


Thanks Buddie, right after I wrote that i was in HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual and was reading ondarvr post in there , and that hit the nail on the head , Where my diamond plate was , Its all cracked up and the fiberglass is cracked .

I was thinking i was going to have to re-glass that area, and i was also thinking it needs some support under there , its where everyone steps to get in and out of the boat while were tubbing . what i was thinking i could do it from underneath, I was thinking that i could glass in some plywood under there !!

Do anyone see a problem with doing it from underneath , instead of grinding all the gel coat off?? I am going to have to grind a lot of the gel coat off but not all of it , unless someone see a problem with doing it from underneath !!

On Ondarvr post he said you have to grind all the the gel coat off where the gel coat is all cracked up !! OK when i post some pics later there is one spot where It looks like someone dropped something heavy on the side of the rail !! now ondarvr was saying that you have to find out why is all cracked up , and fix the glass , I havent really looked that hard at it yet but I dont think there is anything wrong with the glass , should i reinforce that spot also ??

As for the gelcoat I got to do some running , and will look at the local marine shop here !! I still have some marine tex, but if i keep grinding here i am going to need more !!and as far as matching the gel coat I know it not going to !!when I was putting the Marine-Tex on I was thinking that I am going to have to paint the hole thing with primer before I paint her !!

Ok more later John
 
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and john.........i just noticed...


congratulations!

lieutennant commander.........your the same rank as data ! :D
good stuff bud....keep it up

OOOOHHHH MAN Me and Data !! too cool !! lol John
 

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I wasn't sure if you were asking about using gel coat to do the repairs, or if you wanted to re-gel coat the whole boat.
Using gel coat for the repairs is easy and will be fine, re-gel coating the whole boat is a ton of work.

Crack repair can be tough, if the reason for the cracking is that the gel coat is too thick, then even if you repair it the cracks will come back as soon as that area gets stressed. The only way to make it thinner is to grind it off, build the laminate surface up underneath it and then re-gel coat.

If the reason for the cracking is due to flexing, the area needs to be supported better to reduce the flex, or the cracks will be back the first time it does flex.

If the cracking is from a one time impact, the gel coat and glass needs to be removed (sanding) down to a level where the cracks stop, then rebuild the area back to the original shape.

Epoxy filler is stronger than gel coat and will resist re-cracking a little better, but what happens is a new crack can form in the gel coat right next to the one you just fixed with epoxy. So it really needs to be fixed correctly when using either product. One other thing with epoxy is it's harder to sand than gel coat, so when you try to fair it back into shape many times the gel coat around the epoxy repair sands down at a faster rate leaving the epoxy repair higher than the surrounding area.


On any type of crack you need to remove the entire crack from end to end and as deep as it goes, if you don't the chances of it returning in a short time are very high.
 

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Yea i was thinking about regelcoating the hole thing , just for a min, but i was thinking that you were right Ondarvr!!

I looked for some gelcoat today , no luck , they did have marine-tex, so i got another box !!

Ok here are some of the pics i took today there are 44 i up loaded in to photo bucket and I will post the best ones here so here i go !!

this frist pic is one of the port side rear, this is the spot that i need to glass , and the next is a closer shot of where it needs to be glassed hope you can see it !!!!!And the 3 is just a side shot of it where i have ground out all the spiders !!
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These next 2 are of the spot where i think someone dropped something on it , its on the port side and is under the window on the side !!

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Ok these are still that same spot ,

Boat094.jpg


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then there are these spots that i have hit with the marine tex the frist is the before and then the after !! then with marine tex on before Its sanded

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Boat081.jpg



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