If something is illegal, IT may not be wrong, but doing it IS!!! How quickly we overlook the basic, rudimentary aspect only because acknowledging it would contradict our wants. I have mixed feelings about pot being illegal. But regardless, it is ILLEGAL, end of story. There is no justification in the world that will make doing something illegal right(you guys will have fun with that). God's laws dictate obeying mans' laws except when man's law goes against God's specific laws.<br /><br />As for the "uneducated bureaucrat" deciding that you're not supposed to drink until you're 21, that statement shows your immaturity and your ignorance. I'm 37, and I remember the phase in of the 21 law from 18. When the law changed 18 yo's could still drink, the next year the age went to 19, then to 20, then finally the law matured to the 21, at least here in Michigan. The reason? The "uneducated bureaucrat" was faced with udisputable evidence that "minors" below the age of 21 were not mature enough to handle the responsibility. In other words they became Educated Bureaucrats. And YES there are jails, prisons, AA meetings, bars & clubs and cemetaries full of >21's who aren't/weren't mature enough to handle it either. I drank more in the years of 16-21 than I did 21-30, does that make it right, NO! Am I ashamed, no, would I condone it, no, am I proud of it, no.<br /><br /> The whole point of my ranting is GET OVER IT, don't do it until it is legal. If you want it legal, lobby your congressmen. You are probably right, in the future pot will be looked upon like alcohol and prohibition is now. But unless you do something LEGALLY to bring about that change you have no room to complain. Do something - VOTE. Oh, and grow up. Stop saying "It's all somebody else's fault. It's ok to do it just because it shouldn't be illegal."<br />As I told my 15yo, if it's illegal, it's illegal. Nothing will make it right, until it's legal. And then it may still not be right.<br /><br />The previous diatribe is presented, with respect, for your consideration, and is not necessarily directed at any one specific person.
<br /><br />Cigarettes kill, that's a proven fact. Both alcohol and tobacco are highly addictive and that's a proven fact. I'm not here to debate the recreational use of drugs. It's wrong for so many reasons. But let's give ALL of them Equal Time. Alcohol and Tobacco included. Any employer that tests for "drugs" isn't putting any emphasis on two of the most socially destructive ones. So IMHO it's not only pointless, it's HYPROCRITICAL! .<br /> if the pot lobby and the coke lobby was a wealthy as the alcohol and tobbaco lobbies it would have been legal and taxed long ago. <br /> some of our current political families made great wealth during or periuod of prohibition. that period also saw the fastest rise of organized crime and violence ever in our society. you would think we had learned but we did not. if pot and coke were legaal and regulated like alcohol and ciggarettes there would be no money in it and the big crime and money would bail out. who is going to face a 20 year sentance or being shot over weed at 5 dollars a pound?<br /><br /> but now the cops and the lawyers and even the drug cartels have a vested intrest in keeping it illegal. rather funny but there have been reports of lobby money from various suspect sorces to aid in insuring drugs are kept illicit.Yes, I do drive 60mph, I've always driven 5mph over. No I've NEVER said is was right. Yes, I do come to a COMPLETE stop at EVERY stop sign. Saw one too many t-bone accidents where a child got hurt. No I NEVER step on the gas when I see a yellow light, I try to stop if at all possible.<br /> <br />
I don't think I pass judgement because I think something is wrong. If it is illegal, the government said it is wrong, and consequently God says it is wrong. And stupid is believing it is right to asses the law and only obey the one that YOU agree with. As I said, if you want pot legal, DO SOMETHING, otherwise sit down and shut up. If it came to a vote, I may very well vote to legalize pot. But I would want to do more research on the subject. As it is now, it is illegal to use pot, so why waste my time to research something that I have no interest in? But if it came to a vote, then there would be an incentive. If you don't make an effort to achieve what you want, you have NO right to b*tch. After all, God helps those who help themselves.
YOU are judging people that smoke pot simply because it is illegal, and for no other reason. That is ridiculous to put it nicely.
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Nuff said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />Get it?<br />If they are soooooo uneducated maybe you should educate them. <br /><br />AK Chappy
You said it. You appear to feel that you have the privilege of determining what laws you will obey and which ones don't serve your purposes. I am sad for you.
<br /><br />I find it amazing that when one is faced with an indefensible position, they turn to name calling. It shows ones level of intelligence, and integrity. I don’t mean to turn to name calling myself, but am simply pointing out a behavior I’ve notice in people in general.<br /><br />I think most have a clear vision of what my position is. An act may or may not in-and-of itself be right or wrong. But if the act is legislated as illegal, committing that act is wrong. I am sorry if you do not agree, but society is civilized but a set of rules, called laws. These laws must be obeyed if society is to survive and flourish. These laws provide for your rights and privileges. At the same time other laws impose upon those rights and privileges. This is necessary for the safe, respectful interaction of two or more persons. And obeying these laws should not be at the discretion of each individual.They could get too wasted to procreate?
<br /><br />"Wrong" is a moral term, as is "right". <br /><br />Laws are not concerned with morals but with the arbitrary imposition of controls, punishments and prescription of procedures, whether for people, corporations, activities or whatever. <br /><br />Law and morality rarely coincide. <br /><br />The vast bulk of law is concerned with stuff that most people never think about and which has absolutely no moral content, like occupational registration, town planning, economic regulation, tax collection, administration of deceased estates, public health, weights and measures, elections, and so on. <br /><br />Breaking a law is always illegal. <br /><br />It is not necessarily immoral.<br /><br />Overstaying a parking period restriction or failing to register your dog is illegal but not immoral.<br /><br />Murdering someone is both illegal and immoral.<br /><br />If smoking pot is immoral or wrong because it is illegal, it follows that smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol or having an abortion are moral or right because they are legal.<br /><br />Therefore, to be a moral person you must do all that is right and smoke tobacco, drink alcohol, and have an abortion. If you don't accept this then you can't assert that something is wrong just because it is illegal, or that it is right just because it is legal.<br /><br />There is also the problem that laws change. If right or morality and legality are equivalent, and wrong or immorality are also equivalent, it follows that slavery was right or moral until it was outlawed when it magically transformed into being wrong or immoral. So we could make slavery right or moral again just by making it legal again.<br /><br />A further problem with laws is that they can be patently bad, wrong and immoral. Such as the laws in Nazi Germany depriving Jews, disabled people and homosexuals, amongst others, of various human rights. Was it right to do those things just because it was legal? There were also laws prohibiting people from helping or hiding Jews to defeat the laws persecuting them. Was it wrong to break those laws just because it was illegal?
