oddjobs troll-Pirates

KaGee

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Correction.<br /><br />Ladyfish IS a BIGOT. :( <br /><br />She is extremely prejudiced about piloting the boat. Anytime Mr. LF refuses to allow her... or happens to out-fish her she engages "these prejudices in a rude and intolerant manner" :p
 

SCO

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Racism smacism. We are way too politically correct these days. Matt, as a boy I saw the tail end of the real racism that existed in America, and what we have today is in no way shape or form like that which Rosa Parks experienced. <br /><br />LF makes a great point that the liberal media is trying to manipulate our thinking. Just give us the facts man. If Muslims want to hurt us, then we need to know it. I'm not saying thats true in general mind you( but it does make you wonder when they were silent post 911, and the fact that 300 cities in France burn each night), but it does seem like the militant ones are wanting to take over the world. Should we just put on blinders to that danger because it is PC?? Should not the Jews have been afraid of the Spanish Inquisition? Should not the blacks been afraid of whites after the civil war in the South? Ok, I get it, only the White Americans are suposed to put on the blinders because only they are racists. Wrong, every human on the face of the earth can be scrutinized and identified as "racist" in this loose application of the word in some way or another. An example of what I mean is to say that Al Franken is "racist" towards Rush Limbaugh. Linda Rhondstat dislikes or hates Republicans up front. Maybe prejudice is a better term, but lets stick with "racist" for now since it as been bantered about.<br />It is perfectly fine to correctly identify an association with a religious ideology that has people killing Americans at Ramadan to gain credits in the afterlife. <br />I'd say these Muslims that think we are infidels unworthy of life( again , I don't know that percentage) are something like "racists" . The same phenom is occurring...us against them. Good thing we wern't so politically correct in WWII. We <br />might not have won that war. We needed to be able to identify the enemy as the bad guys. If the pc answer of recognizing they are "just like us" would work, then I'd be all for it, but that does not seem to be a realistic view. Peace and Love
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Originally posted by oddjob:<br /><br />Mattt wont apologize, just like he wont call people these names in public and by himself. It takes a man.
Roger that. 10-4
 

jtexas

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Q/C, it'd be interesting to hear some of your findings whenever you get a chance to pass 'em along.<br /><br />oddjob, my understanding, from various sources, is that Jihad (holy war) is a declared war in defense of Islam against an aggressor, but is prohibited against peoples of the book aka believers aka followers of God. Allah being the Arabic language equivalent of God, refering to the omnipotent deity followed by Muslims, Jews and by extension, Christians.<br /><br />Al Qaida and other radical elements of Islam have decided for their own reasons to declare open season on Jews & Christians.<br /><br />If all Muslims (as opposed to the radical terrorist Muslims mentioned by Mr. L/F) "want to eliminate every man, woman and child who does not believe as they do" then Islam is our mortal enemy, and we should be carpet-bombing Iraq, Iran, Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, much of the African continent, and the rest.<br /><br />Al Qaeda is to Islam as the Ku Klux Klan is to Christianity.<br /><br />Note to Friz: don't mean to judge you as an ignorant bigot; it was something I read into your words; sorry for causing offense.
 

QC

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One piece I'll add now jtex is the textbook's definition of Jihad <br /><br />"An Islamic term that is often misunderstood is jihad. The term means "to struggle", to do one's best to resist temptation and overcome evil. Under certain circumstances the struggle to overcome evil requires action. The Qur'an and Sunna allow self-defense and participation in military conflict, but restrict it to the right to defend against aggression and persecution. Jihad, for example, was first carried out against the Meccans who had forbidden Muslims to practice or preach their religion. While Islam forbade forced religious observance in the 600s, most rulers in the world at the time decided what religion their subjects would follow and persecuted those who refused".<br /><br />This textbook was published in 1999.
 

mattttt25

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there is no reason to apologize, unless it's for my possible misuse of the word racist. i guess bigot would have been a better word.<br /><br />but in today's world, racial and religious prejudice is the same.<br /><br />i went back and read her c/p again, thinking i may have missed something. i didn't. in fact, i actually caught more parts that simply state that muslim = terrorist. if the post was trying to argue with a liberal media, it was a very poor attempt.<br /><br />i refuse to let anyone make a comment like that, and not have me comment. regardless of who the person is. that is being a man.
 

LadyFish

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"Biggot"..."Racist", "Redneck", whatever you deem an appropriate label for me Matt, I really don't give a rats bootie. I know who I am and I'm damn proud of it!!!!<br /><br />I tried to explain, it fell on deaf ears. I also apologised to whomever it may have offended which included you. You see, thats what real women do.<br /><br />I can assure you one thing Matt, "Men" don't act the way you do where I come from. You insulted not only me but every member of this board with your 'comment'.<br /><br />I'm Done.
 

Friz

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jtexas, no offense taken.<br />Here are some quotes from the Koran to back up my view, then I'll shut up on this subject.<br /><br />The only true faith in God's sight is Islam. <br />Q 3:19 <br />God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers. <br />Q 2:92-6<br />When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. <br />Q 9:5<br />Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate. <br />Q 9:73<br />Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. <br />Q 4:34<br />"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)<br />"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)<br />"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or to have their hands and feet chopped off on opposite sides, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)<br />"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)<br />"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)<br />"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11) <br />"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)
 

alumistar

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Re: oddjobs troll-Pirates

hey mattttttttttttttttttttttttt, y'all some stupid sons a b!tch ain't ya'? don't ya' know weez all ratha be called hillbillies? mo politically correct, ain't it? dumb a$$! don't eva talk 'bout people you doughno! freakin' idiot! sorry everyone else, my rural roots were showin' there :D
 

bubbakat

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I grew up in the days of racism and it was nothing like being talked about here.<br /><br />LF I still love yea girl.<br />I grew up when it was taught to hate your neighbor by the shade of their skin.
 

Link

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LadyFish<br />Your post and point was clear enough.<br />Anyone trying to make anything else out of it just has a axe to grind.<br /><br />JB <br />
Pirates are seagoing thieves, plain and simple. They kill you, steal your boat or ship and everything in it.<br /><br />The Achille Lauro was hijacked by terrorists. The guys who attacked the cruise ship off Somalia were terrorists.<br /><br />Pirates attacking private vessels in the Gulf Stream and the Bahamas were a real problem in the late 70s-early 80s. When boaters started going heavily armed the practice sort of died out. Drug running was more profitable and less deadly<br />
Spot On! <br />I used to help pass messages back and forth for our (All Nations) cruising communities (sailing) via amateur radio in the early 80's
 
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