oddjobs troll-Pirates

[Friz]

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Originally posted by jtexas:<br /> <br />Friz, stating a fact is "hate-speech" when it's intended that way and clear within the context.<br /><br /> Baloney. Facts are facts. If it is the truth, then the offended need to clean up their act. <br /><br /><br />But that's beside the point. Here's some "facts" you got wrong:<br /><br />1. Not all the rioters in France are muslim.<br /><br /> They have been labled as Muslims and North Africans since it began. I have yet to read anything anywhere stating that there is anyone other than Muslim youths causing the trouble. <br /><br />2. The vast majority of muslim individuals and organizations speak out against Al Qaida.<br /><br /> Name three. <br /><br />3. Islam is a religion of peace.<br /> Show something to verify that. <br /><br />4. Islam does not teach that all non-muslims must either convert or be killed.<br /> Not true. The Koran states that all mankind must yeild to the will of Allah or be slain. <br /><br /><br />Note to Blu Lunch: Americans do care - that's why we're at war in Iraq, isn't it?

 

[brother chris]

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Nice troll OddJob.<br />I'm on LF's side. <br />Matttt. I think you owe LF an apology too!

 

[KaGee]

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I'm with Friz. <br /><br />As for the pirates... who knows what the motives were.

 

[rolmops]

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Friz,In this country you are innocent until proven guilty.not guilty until proven innocent.You either go by these standards or you become a potential lynching mob,claiming to be the majority.

 

[jtexas]

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Friz you need to take your ignorant hate-speech someplace else.

 

[POINTER94]

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Hate speech and racism and red neck. All we need now is fascist or nazi and our plate will be full.<br /><br />Friz, welcome aboard.

 

[mattttt25]

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when you post a c/p without any comment to it's content, it is clearly infered that you agree with that c/p. why would you post it?<br /><br />the c/p clearly shows a hatred towards muslims and an inference that they are the root of all evil. all terrorists are muslim. why do we have to focus on the muslim part? why can't they simply be terrorists?<br /><br />our society is definetely taking a step back, but it's not the morals that concern me. prejudices and racism seem to be stronger than ever. a simple look at what transpired after 9/11 and the recent hurricanes makes it clear to me. america is divided, and equally separated from the rest of the world.<br /><br />everyone's support of LF is understood, although i didn't see many support her post. maybe there is some hope.

 

[Friz]

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Originally posted by jtexas:<br /> Friz you need to take your ignorant hate-speech someplace else.

jtexas, sometimes the truth hurts. I refuse to be politically correct to avoid offending anyone. I am not ignorant, a racist, or a hater. I am truthful.<br />No one ever said that we have the right to not be offended.

 

[KaGee]

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Originally posted by rolmops:<br /> Friz,In this country you are innocent until proven guilty.not guilty until proven innocent.You either go by these standards or you become a potential lynching mob,claiming to be the majority.

Oh, how convenient... it's the way you guys think if you are dealing with terrorists or democrats. <br /><br />However, if your name is Tom Delay or Scooter Libby or any other republican, then you guys want to hang 'em high at noon.

 

[oddjob]

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Please describe my neck matttt.

 

[tylerin]

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Damn, am I the only self-admitting racist here

 

[technostingray]

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Originally posted by Dunaruna:<br /> I think Matt should KHA

Tsk, Tsk Tsk. Would that be kick or kiss?

 

[jtexas]

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Don't confuse Al Qaeda with Islam.<br />Here's an exerpt from an <br />Aljazeera editorial on the subject:<br /><br />

How can the murder of the innocent be perpetuated in the name of a religion that likens the loss of one human life to the loss of humanity at large? How can Islam be said to sanction such acts of aggression when it openly forbids revenge and declares in no less than five Quranic chapters that: "No bearer of a burden bears the burden of another"?

Some other material in case anyone wants to educate themselves on the subject:<br /><br />

Fight for the sake of Allah those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. Allah does not love the aggressors.

(Koran 2:190) <br /><br />

The Prophet Mohamad said to his army before going to a fight "Depart in the name of Allah, and by his help. And kill not any old man nor young boy nor child, nor woman, But be good doers for Allah loves those who do good."

(Hadeeth) <br /><br />Exerpt from <br /> http://www.allaahuakbar.net/jihaad/regarding_suicide_bombers.htm <br /><br />

The Islamic term 'Jihad' has generally been misused in our present times to imply 'killing the opponent using any means, whatsoever'. This is the reason why in the present times, many terrorist activities are carried out in the name of 'Jihad'. However, this implication of the term 'Jihad' is far from being correct. 'Jihad', on the contrary, is governed by strict laws and rules - derived from the Qur'an and the teachings ascribed to the Prophet. For instance, 'Jihad', according to the Qur'an and the teachings ascribed to the Prophet - after the companions of the Prophet - is a declared warfare against injustice and oppression carried out by an organized Muslim state.<br /><br />Keeping the foregoing definition of 'Jihad' in mind, it can safely be said that no terrorist activities can fall within the ambit of 'Jihad', even if such an activity is sponsored and silently backed by an organized state.<br /><br />Besides the above definition, there are also some moral rules and ethical teachings regarding 'Jihad'. These moral rules and ethical teachings are also based on the fundamental teachings of the Qur'an and those ascribed to the Prophet. For instance, ...even in case of a declared warfare, women, children and the elderly can in no case be made a target of aggression.

Don't believe everything you hear on talk radio.

 

[Limited-Time]

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Originally posted by Techtoosweet:<br />

Originally posted by Dunaruna:<br /> I think Matt should KHA

Tsk, Tsk Tsk. Would that be kick or kiss?

Has to be KICK, Kissing LF's behind could be a pleasure actually

 

[Mr.Ladyfish]

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Matt, your post calling LF a racist was way over the line and it’s very obvious that you don’t know her at all. She has spent a lot of her time and effort for several years trying to help minorities, especially children, receive proper eye care and treatment. She has argued and fought with just about every optometrist in the county to get free exams, treatment (including surgery) and glasses for these people. It wasn’t her job, her job was mainly to raise funds and put on programs for corporations to raise the level of awareness on how to prevent eye injury and blindness. She felt she could also help the minority and low income community as well. Let’s face it, eye exams & glasses are expensive and way down on the list of necessities for people who are trying to scrape together their next meal. However don’t park your shiny new ride outside her door then come in wearing several thou worth of gold looking for free treatment for your kids. All that would get you is a new a$$hole. I used to worry that she would be the victim of a drive-by because she would tell those people in no uncertain terms that their priorities were wrong.<br /><br />Her post was a C&P trying to show that the media is very anti conservative and especially anti Bush. She probably should have made it a little more clear that it was not her exact feelings or words. She does get upset when she turns on the TV or picks up a newspaper and sees nothing but Bush bashing and anti American stories.<br /><br />She & I both feel that people are entitled to their opinions and realize that we just have to agree to disagree. Name calling and labeling with something as vile as “racist” is both unnecessary and uncalled for. <br /><br />I have a few questions for you. How much of the war and strife in the world currently is caused by radical Islamic Muslims and their quest to dominate the world? Make no mistake about it, they do want to eliminate every man, woman and child who does not believe as they do. The US is their number one target because of our lifestyle and freedoms. How would you like your mother or significant other to be ruled by their holy laws? How much hunger and poverty could be eradicated if all the money being spent by civilized countries to protect humanity from these animals was used for something else? This war on terror has been going on for centuries and I’m afraid will continue for a long time to come.

 

[KaGee]

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Originally posted by tylerin:<br /> Damn, am I the only self-admitting racist here

Actually, the proper term as implied by Matt should be BIGOT, not RACIST.<br /><br />

Bigotry<br />From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own. The origin of the word in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of religious hypocrite, especially a woman. Today, it is considered a synonym of narrow-minded.<br /><br />Bigot is often used as pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to his or her prejudices even when these prejudices are challenged or proven to be false, often engaging these prejudices in a rude and intolerant manner. <br />

A RACIST could be considered to be a BIGOT, but RACISIM is not associated with religion. Whereas one who is prejudiced for or aganst any religion could be considered a BIGOT. <br /><br />So, seeing that Islam is Anti-Semetic and Anti-Christian, "often engaging these prejudices in a rude and intolerant manner", they too can be labled BIGOTS!<br /><br />Pirates have a prejudiced view of rich white honkies on a cruise ship. "often engaging these prejudices in a rude and intolerant manner", therefore they too can be considered BIGOTS!<br /><br />Ladyfish on the other hand is not "Racist", since her C&P was not in reference to any specific race of people. Neither was it BIGOTED, for it was not "engaging these prejudices in a rude and intolerant manner" by simply pointing out the opposite.

 

[oddjob]

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Don't believe everything you hear on talk radio.<br />

Dont believe everything a Algazera tells you about muslims either.<br /><br />quote:<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Fight for the sake of Allah those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. Allah does not love the aggressors. <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />This is key, because we have Isreal as an ally, In their minds, fundamentalist's or not, we(Isreal started it). So their cool with Alah there. <br /><br />Jihad is Holy war and I didnt hear that from a radio host. I heard it from a muslim. And your excerpt confirms it. <br /><br />Just like mattt found an excuse to attack his hatred for people among him at dockside, Muslims easily find reason to forego the peaceful teachings of isalm.<br /><br /><br />Mattt wont apologize, just like wont call people these names in public and by himself. It takes a man.

 

[JoeW]

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Just in case no one else has raised this tiny little technicality, I will. Muslims are followers of Islam, a religion. Muslims are NOT a race. Even if one were to pre-judge someone based upon their religion, they are not racist. Biggoted, perhaps, but not racist.

 

[QC]

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Great post Mr. LF!!!<br /><br />Jtex,<br /><br />Although I largely agree with your snippets, there is one thing missing. As far as I know not one major Islamic Cleric or Islamic Theocratic Gov't has publicly condemned suicide bombing and/or terror. Maybe I am wrong, but that alone is a major problem. I do agree though that Islam is a religion of peace, however, its formation was marred with violence and major disputes concerning interpretation of Muhammad's teachings. Convenient for me as my 7th grader is currently studying the formation of Islam in school and I have been his study partner . . .

 

[technostingray]

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Originally posted by jtexas:<br /> Don't confuse Al Qaeda with Islam.

Aw c'mon jtex, you take all of the fun out of it. Mights as well say:<br />Don't confuse; <br /><br /> Religion with Philosphy<br />Patriotism with Capitalism<br />Nationalism with Racism<br />Democracy with Socialism<br />Economy with agenda <br />and a couple a dozen more so prelevant.