Lone Star Medallion II 1966, Oh Scrap!

[64osby]

Do you have some measurements 64 I have quite a few cleats in the bin, there are some chrome ones with 4 bolts.

She is wrapped up pretty tight for renovation hibernation. When able I'll get some measurements. Thanks for the offer.:thumb:

 

[64osby]

WooHoo - 4000 posts!

Great place to be and hopefully I've been able to help a few along the way. I truly appreciate all the help and the humor. :high5: :thumb:

 

[Willyclay]

jb - Most cleats I've seen have a rubber or plastic pad under them. Maybe these allowed water to drain and no rubbing or vibration.

Your pic stirred the moldy stuff between my ears and reminded me of what I saw when I removed all non-aluminum material from my LS Medallion II for recycling. I seem to recall the cleats did have four screws with the same isolators. I also checked my parts bin to see if I had saved any hardware from that boat but no joy!

 

[64osby]

Willy Thanks for taking a look, I appreciate the thought.

You wouldn't happen to remember how the padded pieces on the gunnel were constructed?



Looking to see if it was made from wood, was it "L" shaped? Or was there something that went back to the side of the boat?

I have a row of about 6 holes below the rub rail that have been filled, trying to figure out what their purpose was.

 

[Willyclay]

You wouldn't happen to remember how the padded pieces on the gunnel were constructed?

Sorry I don't have any deck hardware hanging around because I would have enjoyed seeing you save that old beauty! My stuff was badly corroded from the saltwater. My LS has been gone since 2006 so before I try to respond to you question from memory, let me look in my workshop for some bits and pieces that may help me remember clearly. I recall having some holes in the hull below the rub rail that had no apparent purpose with my boat either.

The padding was constructed of vinyl over foam on plywood. Very definitely it was constructed in an "L" shape and mounted inverted with the small lip on the horizontal surface of the gunnels. No bracing extended to the hull. One section for each side, one section for the dash and one section for the horizontal lip of the splash-well. Also, the lower vinyl covered panels had thinner foam on plywood and were attached with SS machine screws through an aluminum angle that ran full length from the splash-well to the toe-board under the dash. I think some of the aluminum parts may still be around here so I will try to get you some dimensions. Heck, if I stll have them intact, maybe we can figure out a way to get them to you. The gunnel padding was also attached with SS machine screws which you can almost see in the photo you posted. What you cannot see is the SS finish washers under all these screws that had a flat flange so it would not cut the vinyl. I'll be happy to send you some if I still have any left. Finally, the padded corners were built-up with foam on an angle and not 90 degrees.

Probably be tomorrow before I can do a thorough search. Hang in here, maybe I will remember something else.

 

[64osby]

... I recall having some holes in the hull below the rub rail that had no apparent purpose with my boat either.

The padding was constructed of vinyl over foam on plywood. Very definitely it was constructed in an "L" shape and mounted inverted with the small lip on the horizontal surface of the gunnels. No bracing extended to the hull. One section for each side, one section for the dash and one section for the horizontal lip of the splash-well. Also, the lower vinyl covered panels had thinner foam on plywood and were attached with SS machine screws through an aluminum angle that ran full length from the splash-well to the toe-board under the dash. I think some of the aluminum parts may still be around here so I will try to get you some dimensions. Heck, if I stll have them intact, maybe we can figure out a way to get them to you. The gunnel padding was also attached with SS machine screws which you can almost see in the photo you posted. What you cannot see is the SS finish washers under all these screws that had a flat flange so it would not cut the vinyl. I'll be happy to send you some if I still have any left. Finally, the padded corners were built-up with foam on an angle and not 90 degrees.

Probably be tomorrow before I can do a thorough search. Hang in here, maybe I will remember something else.

Great info Willy. I have the dash pads, the side panels and the long lower trim.

no gunnel pads and nothing for the spashwell.

Did you have an aluminum panel behind the side panels?



Splash well had nothing



I read where they had a padded panel for the splashwell that let the motor tilt.

Looks like it has no support in the center.

Thanks for all your help.:thumb:

 

[home-boy]

I'll post this pic and you can photoshop it into a pic of your boat to duplicate the brochure photo

 

[Willyclay]

I have the dash pads, the side panels and the long lower trim. no gunnel pads and nothing for the spashwell.

Did you have an aluminum panel behind the side panels?

Splash well had nothing. I read where they had a padded panel for the splashwell that let the motor tilt. Looks like it has no support in the center.

Glad you have the dash pad, side panels including that long aluminum trim. I think the gunnel pads were what I would call rolled & pleated vinyl but I believe when dealing with marine vinyl it is called "welded stripe vinyl". The stripes were about 1.5-2 inches apart and ran vertically. Hope this helps!

My lower side panels did not have aluminum panels behind them. However, I was not the original owner so who knows. My splashwell had a very thick pad shaped just like your splashwell. It did not extend straight across that motor cutout. Fastened with SS machine screws and nylon locknuts.

FYI, while looking for stuff I removed from my LS, I found two heavy gauge aluminum angle pieces used for transom braces. They are both 2X2X3/16inch angle. The one below the splashwell is 64 inches long. The other one is 29 inches long and was installed high inside the splashwell. Both were bolted thru the transom with SS Phillips head machine screws and nylon locknuts. Nylon spacers under the screw heads prevented any corrosion in those locations while the rest of my transom skin looked like Swiss cheese. Also, found two "U" channel braces 1X1.5X24.5 inches for the splashwell forward edge. I'll keep looking!

 

[Tnstratofam]

This just became my favorite resto thread. It has my two favorite things an old tin boat being redone, and other people posting Chrysler engine porn.:becky:

 

[bear_69cuda]

MOPAR!

 

[64osby]

I have the 64" long brace for the transom. I have the two "U" channels they are still attached to the splashwell.

Did the 29" transom brace fit about where the 2 Phillips head screws are in this picture. Not a great pic,but the splashwell drain hole gives some perspective.



I don't know if the aluminum panels under the side panels are original or not. Almost think they were added on to my hull by a PO.

Great Info Thank You! :joyous:

Also good to see CRS hasn't gotten the best of you.:laugh:

 

[Willyclay]

Did the 29" transom brace fit about where the 2 Phillips head screws are in this picture. Not a great pic,but the splashwell drain hole gives some perspective

I looked at this piece again plus your pix in post #4 and now believe I erred when I said it was mounted "high" on the transom. It is not long enough to fit that space and it has three screw holes at each end of one flange as well as numerous rivet holes in the other flange Judging by the corrosion on one flange, it may have been below the splashwell. Sorry but my old geezer brain just doesn't remember. Will try to post a picture and/or more info tomorrow.

 

[64osby]

I looked at this piece again plus your pix in post #4 and now believe I erred when I said it was mounted "high" on the transom. It is not long enough to fit that space and it has three screw holes at each end of one flange as well as numerous rivet holes in the other flange Judging by the corrosion on one flange, it may have been below the splashwell. Sorry but my old geezer brain just doesn't remember. Will try to post a picture and/or more info tomorrow.

There is an alum. angle at the bottom of the bulkhead panel shown in the pic below. It has 3 holes on each end and screw holes on the other flange. it holds the front panel in place. Pretty sure it is what you're looking at. When you look at the enlarged pic you can see the holes.

 

[64osby]

I'll post this pic and you can photoshop it into a pic of your boat to duplicate the brochure photo

This just became my favorite resto thread. It has my two favorite things an old tin boat being redone, and other people posting Chrysler engine porn.:becky:

MOPAR!

Enjoy all you want, but we don't need no stinking dorm fridge.:eyebrows:

 

[Willyclay]

There is an alum. angle at the bottom of the bulkhead panel shown in the pic below. It has 3 holes on each end and screw holes on the other flange. it holds the front panel in place. Pretty sure it is what you're looking at. When you look at the enlarged pic you can see the holes.

I am positive you are correct about that angle's location. The forward storage area was pretty much an afterthought for me during disposal of my LS. Sorry for any confusion I may have created. Looking forward to the rest of your project and enjoying the 23 years of memories of my Medallion II. Good luck!

 

[64osby]

Willy, Thanks for your assistance. Your information is very helpful and appreciated.:hail:

Not many of these hulls seem to be in service. Very few pictures for reference and the projects I've seen all ended after gutting the boat.:sorrow:

It will be slow going on hull work until the weather turns above freezing. :smow:

Hopefully there will a lot of details planned / worked out, some panel work, some upholstery and lots of gathering during the hard water season.:becky:

 

[Willyclay]

Hopefully there will a lot of details planned / worked out, some panel work, some upholstery and lots of gathering during the hard water season.

Well 64, from what I have seen in your posts, you are a "Gatherer of the First Order"! Will let you know if I find anymore parts/pieces of my LS. Hang in there.

 

[Tnstratofam]

Enjoy all you want, but we don't need no stinking dorm fridge.:eyebrows:

Aww man!out: That's okay 64 I still think it's a great boat!:encouragement: And you are gonna make her rock!:rockon:

 

[64osby]

Well 64, from what I have seen in your posts, you are a "Gatherer of the First Order"! Will let you know if I find anymore parts/pieces of my LS. Hang in there.

As a Bottom Feeder that is a complement of the highest regard.

Often the Admiral wonders why I grab some of the things I do. She did say she liked the seats, and might even go fishing with me with nice seats like that. :bounce:

She has never gone fishing with me.hwell:

 

[64osby]

Picked up an old NOS Aqua Meter tachometer from ebay.

Had one of these on the Crosby (RIP) and love the way they look.

The paint on the needle has peeled.



Was able to pop it apart without breaking anything. It is a pressure fit.

Used some of my daughters nail polish and make it look better.



This tach doesn't require a hole to be cut so placement should be pretty easy.

It is a two wire and hope I can get it wired up to my 70hp without issue.

I had posted a thread in electronics about it but didn't get any response. http://forums.iboats.com/forum/boat-...n-81-omc-70-hp