Insurgents suck

pjc

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thanks rodbolt...apreciate the courtesy.......I do read what I can find, either mainstream media (tainted imo), or online as well as what folks opinions are..<br /><br />thanks again, pjc
 

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PJC<br /> most all of it is tainted. depends on the agenda the reporter is trying to promote. but if you can acess the same report from several sides you can get a picture.<br /> most the white house admin now are not qualified they just happened to be buddies.
 
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most the white house admin now are not qualified they just happened to be buddies.
And that is different for this administration-how?
 

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thanks DJ..the buddie thing though is interesting, as to an article I read that claimed that both GW Bush and J. Kerry were members of the "Skull & Bones" "fraternity' during their days in college. <br /><br />Like Clinton and his minions did. Oh yea, BJ Bill. Sorry for the shot at a President that received oral sex while in office as President Of The United States. Was busted red headed, er, handed, as I recall.<br /><br />does go to show that the high level pols did, do, and continue to socialize together.<br /><br />reality is that I take water in the same places as peers of my social as well as financial settings. Much like the CEOS of the society water together.<br /><br />Anybody here able to name a higher level pol, either local, state, or fed level, that is not financially well to do?<br /><br />These people all "drink" together and decide what and how, we, their so called constituents, will be governed.
 

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DJ<br /> its just that this administration seems to be more top heavy withh non-qualified buddies. :)
 

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PJC<br /> as much as I hae to admit a democrat presidents success. so far ****ons gifts to the US and the world far outstrips bubba w's.<br /> I do still think the incedents in somalia and hati were attempts at diverting public attention to facts much like the current admins policies.<br /> if you ever desire some reading from a grunts point of view look up Col. Hackworths's books
 
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Who's not qualified? Rice, Cheney, et al? Who makes up the qualifications? Where are the job descriptions and the list of qulaifications that are needed?<br /><br />Were are founding fathers "qualified" to write the Declaration of Independence?<br /><br />The people decide who is qualified or not. There are no tests or licenses.
 

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Terrorist scumbags -EDIT. EDIT - EDIT. :mad: <br /><br />I'd like to take whoever came up with the term 'insurgent' and have them spend a day with the Marines that are in Iraq right now.<br /><br />Insurgent... Another left-wing way to try and sugar coat something. Obviously they didn't watch the be-headings.<br /><br />These TERRORISTS are out to kill every last American, be it Man, Woman, or Child.<br /><br /><br />H.
 
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And for many admin's, is was/is all about the POWER! Any names come to mind?
 

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Originally posted by mikeandronda:<br /> Ok in the last few days the evil scum insurgents have attacked a bakery, a mosqe and a hospital........how can anybody feel the actions they are taking is of any benifit to their country. It is known that is sunni tribes men that make up the magority of the insurgents so I cant understand why we and the rest of Iraq just take care of bussiness. Wipe them out........ I flippin hate the politics that is controling this thing over there. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Correct..."Suni insurgents" (read; "Islamic terrorists",because that is what we are fighting) DO draw vacuum. As does the anti American Ward Chruchills of this world. God bless America.
 

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They will be there after we leave too. It will never end. We Knew that going in. Its a huge waste of lives (our soldiers),and our $$
 

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Originally posted by NYMINUTE:<br /> They will be there after we leave too. It will never end. We Knew that going in. Its a huge waste of lives (our soldiers),and our $$
And that is a self-fullfilling prophesy. As long as the mutants have Aljazeera and NBC to spread anti-American poopaganda, and traitors like Mike Moore and Ward Churchill ruin American resolve by the roomfull, your prediction is assured, despite the lives and hard work of America's best.. But the deaths and toils it causes are on the "insurgents' and those traitor's souls.
 
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They will be there after we leave too. It will never end. We Knew that going in. Its a huge waste of lives (our soldiers),and our $$<br />
Nope! They'll come here.
 

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Let's not forget this is all about hate. Hate by the Sunni's, hate by the democrats, hate by Ward Churchill, hate of america and americans. <br /><br />There can be no doubt that the average Iraqi is in far better condition now then under the murderer. There are of course nut cases like Michael Moore whose hate blinds them to the fact that freedom is better than tyrany dispite the health care plan. Heck whats a little rape and murder. It is a sad day when the success of the US is considered a failure by some in the attempt to make their light brighter. When in doubt, hate the rich. This is not a political position it is a charactor flaw. There was once a time when the american lifestyle was the envy of the world. We are still the most immigrated to country in the world, but sacrifice for anything is no longer viewed as necessary. Blame the rich. Blame the president. Blame big oil. <br /><br />It was the job of the UN to stop what was happening in Iraq. (Rape. Murder. Terrorism. These are BAD things.) They are nothing more than a group of professional extorsionists. How many hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's have to die for them to even pass a resolution denouncing it let alone actually doing something. We have lost 1300 soldiers, while saving how many from an undignified death in the torture chambers.<br /><br />Can't we at least agree that Terrorists are bad. Rape, torture, murder, genocide are bad too. Doing something to stop these acts, regardless of motivation is a good thing. Or are we all little Eichman's.
 

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pointer<br /> while I agree that violence is not they way to solve the problem and I agree the un is so bloated and top heavy that its less than useless until the current or future administrations actually look at what and why these groups were created it will continue. both Iran and Iraq have had democratically elected governments in the past. the US and the UK dismantled all of them.seems they were nationalizing the oil fields and were going to sell to the ussr. we cant have that then nor now.<br /> its been our policy for 50 years or so to keep the area destabilized and depressed as long as the oil pumps were on. if we were so humanitarian we would have been in africa,hati and a few other places where the loss of life and torture would make saddam look like a bus accident. however they have no oil. most of the weapons Iran has we sold and half that saddam had was US stuff purchased through a third party. we knew it was but since the deal was quasi-legal and no one was looking the deals got done. in the early 70's we sold 70 some odd of the most advanced jet fighters in the world with some of the most sophisticated avionics at the time to Iran. then we spent years teaching them how to use them. they are still there.<br /> we sold thousands of TOW missles as well :) .<br /> all of this is very easy to verify. just takes a short time to look at some of the GAO and CIA sites.<br /> so no matter why we are there dont forget our past policies created the mess. I just dont see the current administration with the fortidude and leadership as well as the historical background to solve anything.
 
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Yes, Mr. Rodbolt. We know how you feel. <br /><br />However, that was then, this is now. 9-11 changed everything. So what if we started off with an oil rich nation. If one wants to deny that Saddam was in full support of terrorists, go ahead, at your own peril. Bill Clinton had eight years and did NOTHING. Including not taking out OBL when handed to us on a silver platter-at least TWICE. <br /> <br />
"I just dont see the current administration with the fortidude and leadership as well as the historical background to solve anything." <br />
And just who has "qualifications" and historical background? A question you left unanswered earlier.<br /><br />So now, here we are. We have someone that has the cojones to take on these tin horn dictators and get some results. Yet, all we can think to do is cry that it is an oil scam for his rich buddies. Our failure could be in the nagativism of our own people. Our troops feel that.<br /><br />As for disbanding the UN, forget it. There are too many misguided American people that think that the UN is our saving grace.
 
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Michael Moore is a certified POS insurgent.
Some call him a "patriot". My leanings are more toward-traitor.<br /><br />With that said, who can we call, a traitor-anymore?, There were many during WWII that were voicing their opinion. Trouble is, we've let the minority control the majority. <br /><br />I hold the fist amendment to be dear, yet, there has to be a line. Civility/unity used to determine that line. We've long since lost that.<br /><br />The passionate will vote, the uncaring will not elect to do so. In my opinion, not voting is: unconscionable. We have this gift, of voting for a free system and yet we, as a majority, "blow it off". "Too busy" and what not. I call that "regrettable". We will live to regret what we did not do, when we could.<br /><br /><br />The first amendment has been neutered, via the courts, to mean that anyone can say/do anything against the US government.<br /><br />This, folks, is not new. Our country has struggled through turbulent times before. My problem is that there is a section of true "US haters" out there that have a unequaled and unmatched voice via the modern media.<br /><br />"Squeaky wheel" comes to mind. The masses will always follow the "squeak".<br /><br />Scary.
 

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Originally posted by rodbolt:<br /> pointer<br /> --- Seems they were nationalizing the oil fields and were going to sell to the ussr. we cant have that then nor now.<br /> its been our policy for 50 years or so to keep the area destabilized and depressed as long as the oil pumps were on. if we were so humanitarian we would have been in africa,hati and a few other places where the loss of life and torture would make saddam look like a bus accident. however they have no oil. most of the weapons Iran has we sold and half that saddam had was US stuff purchased through a third party. we knew it was but since the deal was quasi-legal and no one was looking the deals got done..
Oil once, oil twice, oil three times...<br />It is not about "invasion to secure oil", as your leaders keep chanting! Do you REALLY believe this? I know Moore and his ilk do, but why? Help me out here.<br />Why are we not invading Africa, Mexico, Ruissia, and other regions of the globe which are afloat on thier fields of oil?<br />You were told this "big oil", "war for oil", "Haliburton's buddies" montra was not true by Rumsfeld and the Bush Admin, and of course, that did not convince you. But to ignore rationality --- the proof under you own noses, just confuses me to no end.<br />You have been fed the propaganda of the Islamic media, and the loosers' media of the last American regime, and you continue to eat it up, when the geological proof of thier deciet surrounds you in real time, in the real world.<br /><br />I wish you could explain this to me somehow, because it's prevailent amoungst the remnants of socialist ideology, and you all only need to take an objective, unbiased study to find all the proof you need to see the forest for the trees. :rolleyes: <br />Islamic terrorists suck. :eek:
 
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