Freshwater Mussels?

KMC

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There is a pond In Brimfield Mass. that has a lot of mussels...I see piles of them when I go fishing..I guess the raccoons eat them and leave piles of shells....I can see them in the shallow water also.... oh..it is called Sherman pond

Al


Hello Al,
thanks for the suggestion. I will have to go check this out sometime. Is there any special directions regarding where the Racoons tend to pile the mussels?
-Thanks again, Kevin
 

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Hello timalabim,
I would absolutely be interested. I have not had much chance to explore Maine for freshwater mussels. I would be very interested to see what you are finding up there. My studies will be going on for a long time. There is no rush on my part. Let me know if you come across some you can share.
-Thank you, Kevin


We see quite a few up in Sebago Lake Maine. Be a month or so before we get up there but if you're interested we sure could snag some for you.
 

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We see quite a few up in Sebago Lake Maine. Be a month or so before we get up there but if you're interested we sure could snag some for you.

Really? Maybe while yur up here you can show them to me. Never seen one in my 32 years of living on Big Sebago.
 

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Gull pond and Higgins pond in Wellfleet,Cape Cod have a very much alive population of fresh water mussels.
 

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I've seen plenty on the beaches of Lake Huron but these days they are mostly zebra:eek: Those things are putting native mussels out of business in a big way and it's going to be a problem that most don't realize.

No predators=thriving little mussels.

I'd be glad to send you some non-zebra if I find some. I'll let you know:)
 

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Hello Huron Angler,
Well I really appreciate the offer to help. I hope you do find some (and not just for my benefit!). We in Mass. are just getting scared ourselves as zebras were just detected in the Western part of the state this past year. I've seen the hurt they have put on Lake Champlain in VT first hand. Its not a pretty site. Well, thank you again.
-Take care, Kevin

I've seen plenty on the beaches of Lake Huron but these days they are mostly zebra:eek: Those things are putting native mussels out of business in a big way and it's going to be a problem that most don't realize.

No predators=thriving little mussels.

I'd be glad to send you some non-zebra if I find some. I'll let you know:)
 

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There is definitely no time limit on my studies. I would appreciate any empty mussel shells you might find up that way (any time you find them).
-Thank you, Kevin


We see quite a few up in Sebago Lake Maine. Be a month or so before we get up there but if you're interested we sure could snag some for you.
 

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Here in Ontario I've seen otters feed on the big mussels. Canadian Shield lakes are best..Haliburton, Bancroft,Big Gull L., etc.
 

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BTW- I can't say scientifically for sure, but I will say that I have had large freshwater mussels grab lures in almost every lake I fish here in Vermont. So I am not surprised Sebago would have them.

I have eaten them too but I would rather not again. If I am going to eat bottom feeders I prefer crayfish, hornpout and walleye.
 

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............................But basically if you find a fresh water clam an it bigger than a inch, chances are its the kind of mussel I want. Let me know if you think you can collect any for me. I would really appreciate it.
-Thanks, Kevin

I've seen what I thought were clams lately the size of large surf clams along the banks of a local river only a stone's throw from a huge lake. This is over 20 miles inland from the nearest saltwater in NJ.
Are these clams or mussels? They can be nearly 4" across and sure do look like clams. They live in the muddy banks of the river, its common to dislodge them while striper fishing.
 

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Would help you out but in Indiana it has been illegal to take a live or dead mussel or the shells since 1991.
 

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I've seen what I thought were clams lately the size of large surf clams along the banks of a local river only a stone's throw from a huge lake. This is over 20 miles inland from the nearest saltwater in NJ.
Are these clams or mussels? They can be nearly 4" across and sure do look like clams. They live in the muddy banks of the river, its common to dislodge them while striper fishing.

Hello reelfishin,
believe it our not, some native freshwater mussels get huge (as in 8-10 inches in length). And there are many many examples that grow as large as 4inches. It certainly sounds like you are coming across native freshwater mussels. One thing that all freshwater mussels have is what is called a "periostracum" (i.e a skin) on the outside of the shell. Most skins are brownish or yellowish, and sometimes with green "rays" present. Since freshwater mussels are usually (when alive) somewhat buried, they are not the most obvious thing to see in our lakes and rivers. However, there have been almost 300 species identified in America (and most of those 300 occur east of the Mississippi River).

If you ever find any empty shells you could send my way, I would sure love to see them. :)
-Take care, Kevin
 

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Kevin,
what part of MA are you in? I head to Seymour pond in Brewster, Ma and have found tons of mussels.
 

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Hello,
I actually live in Dorchester (i.e. Boston). I am not specifically familiar with the pond you mention. But any pond you mention as being filled with tons of mussels is one I will want to check out in the very near future! Thanks for the heads up! :)
-Take care, Kevin

Kevin,
what part of MA are you in? I head to Seymour pond in Brewster, Ma and have found tons of mussels.
 

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I have heard about twenty people now say that they've eaten freshwater mussels and all but one said they tasted terrible (like a muddy shoe). Yesterday, I heard the one exception. It was from a person who took them from an exceptionally clean and rocky/sandy sediment river. I guess the trick is to find them not in dirt or mud. I still can't imagine them tasty. Maybe in a hot sauce to cover the taste!


BTW- I can't say scientifically for sure, but I will say that I have had large freshwater mussels grab lures in almost every lake I fish here in Vermont. So I am not surprised Sebago would have them.

I have eaten them too but I would rather not again. If I am going to eat bottom feeders I prefer crayfish, hornpout and walleye.
 

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Hello reelfishin,
believe it our not, some native freshwater mussels get huge (as in 8-10 inches in length). And there are many many examples that grow as large as 4inches. It certainly sounds like you are coming across native freshwater mussels. One thing that all freshwater mussels have is what is called a "periostracum" (i.e a skin) on the outside of the shell. Most skins are brownish or yellowish, and sometimes with green "rays" present. Since freshwater mussels are usually (when alive) somewhat buried, they are not the most obvious thing to see in our lakes and rivers. However, there have been almost 300 species identified in America (and most of those 300 occur east of the Mississippi River).

If you ever find any empty shells you could send my way, I would sure love to see them. :)
-Take care, Kevin

These don't have any skin on the shells, they look identical to the surf clams we use for bait for striper fishing. When if first saw them I had figured that someone had been fishing there and had shucked some clams for bait and tossed the shells in the water, but these were live and were burrowed into the bank. I picked up a few and they are alive. I've used them for bait, they sure look like clams to me. Maybe someone tossed some left over bait and they lived? It's fast moving water but not deep, the banks are muddy or sandy in most places. These are no more than few feet from shore, exposed during low tide in the river.
An old timer there said they were just freshwater clams but I wasn't sure if he was serious or being sarcastic. They're too big to be eating clams either way, and I do know what you mean by the green rays, but these are dull white/brown clam shells. I do gather mussels farther down stream where the river meets the bay, but that's 20+ miles down stream and in saltwater, those look just like the mussels you get at the local seafood buffet.
Dark in color with a pearl or iridescent look to the shell, elongated in shape.

I've never seen those anywhere but well into saltwater, but what I see up stream are clams. I can't tell those from the clams I gather on the beach at the shore for bait.
 

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Well I am definitely intrigued. I'm guessing if you are finding larger clams that don't have a skin, then they must be salt water. Is the water brackish around where you are talking? Some salt water clams can tolerate some brackishness. Here are some whitish marine clams that can tolerate brackish water to varying degrees:

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That's two soft-shelled clam and Northern Quahog. Is that what you are talking about?

Here is an example of a typical native freshwater mussel common in your area:

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Take care, Kevin

These don't have any skin on the shells, they look identical to the surf clams we use for bait for striper fishing. When if first saw them I had figured that someone had been fishing there and had shucked some clams for bait and tossed the shells in the water, but these were live and were burrowed into the bank. I picked up a few and they are alive. I've used them for bait, they sure look like clams to me. Maybe someone tossed some left over bait and they lived? It's fast moving water but not deep, the banks are muddy or sandy in most places. These are no more than few feet from shore, exposed during low tide in the river.
An old timer there said they were just freshwater clams but I wasn't sure if he was serious or being sarcastic. They're too big to be eating clams either way, and I do know what you mean by the green rays, but these are dull white/brown clam shells. I do gather mussels farther down stream where the river meets the bay, but that's 20+ miles down stream and in saltwater, those look just like the mussels you get at the local seafood buffet.
Dark in color with a pearl or iridescent look to the shell, elongated in shape.

I've never seen those anywhere but well into saltwater, but what I see up stream are clams. I can't tell those from the clams I gather on the beach at the shore for bait.
 

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I'm in Northern Mass and I have fresh water mussells in my lake. They usually sit on one of the few sandy spots where it is shallow and there is a current. I pull them out by and and open them up with my marine knife and use them for bass bait on a bobber. The bass love them :)
 
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