Formula 27PC Transom Work

[kcassells]

Mine also has the ribs. I'm putting the wedges at the edges, mainly on the back side due to I'm unable to get to the other areas. I tried some 1x4 and they went in but not very far with blunt ends, will put some 45's on them. Only had 2 beers and it looks like it will take at least 4, will try again tomorrow. Thanks

If you look at my prior pics you will see...definitely required 6! Good luck.. you'll beat her out just fine.

 

[alldodge]

If you look at my prior pics you will see...definitely required 6! Good luck.. you'll beat her out just fine.

Good thing the shop frig is full, one way or another it's coming out

 

[Scott Danforth]

Good thing the shop frig is full, one way or another it's coming out

can you get a ratchet strap around the one end? if so, built a small framework that would stradle it, then put some tension on the ratchet strap. drink a beer. at more tension, drink another beer. by the 3rd or 4th beer, something will give.

 

[alldodge]

can you get a ratchet strap around the one end? if so, built a small framework that would stradle it, then put some tension on the ratchet strap. drink a beer. at more tension, drink another beer. by the 3rd or 4th beer, something will give.

I tried that but the strap slipped off. Didn't do a thing with it today. Last week washer broke a gear, replaced it, today the washer over flowed and spent the day cleaning up the water. Got it fixed, but new washer and dryer coming soon as we figure out which one.

 

[Scott Danforth]

remember it comes in 3's. hope the next thing isnt the beer fridge going out.

 

[alldodge]

remember it comes in 3's. hope the next thing isnt the beer fridge going out.

Oh say it aint so, say it aint so !!! Oh the inhumanity :wacko:

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Looking at the enormity of this project and how that boat is laid out and what you are going to have do I can only offer you this...

Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me, thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Now with that said more beer and maybe some Yoga Zen master meditation gift card kinda of thing. Prop tip speed....hmmmm meaning less dribble at this point. Carry on great thread.

 

[alldodge]

Good one Tail_Gunner, I needed that. Really could use Yoga Zen Master

Started working today and got a few hours in. Put the wedge under the corner and started driving slats under the tank. most got stuck but little by little I got them back out. Tried the port-a-power and started to word the hull might give before the tank so I stopped. Found a piece of 1 1/2 inch wide of galvanized plumbers tape. Started take it a jabbing it under and around and was making progress. Went in for lunch and the Admiral wanted to go get new washer and dryer. So that took the rest of today.

Got to thinking and going to try something tomorrow. I rounded off the front corners of the plumbers tape so it wouldn't hang or gouge into the tank or hull. Going to try and mount the tape on a sawzal blade. The blade will not go under the tank, just used as something to hold the tape so it can be used to cut through the foam. Don't know if it will work but just using the tape I have managed to get it past another rib on the hull

 

[alldodge]

The tank is not budging, tried all kinds of things. Starting to think it hasn't been wet long enough to soften up much. Started cutting the sides away from next to the water tank. This area is accessible not a lot but some. Started pushing the plumbers tape under it. Think I'm going to have to remove the whole side. Might call Fl tank to see what they want for a tank, but then again, if I am unable to get it out, what's the point. Maybe a backhoe and a chain... not just yet but a thought either way

 

[tpenfield]

I am not quite understanding the plumber's tape . . . maybe time for some more pictures :noidea: not to add burden to an already tough task. I assume that your best access is from the engine bay, where you removed the bulkhead.

For now, I'll take out my etch-a-sketch and draw a diagram of how I got my tank out . . . not sure if that will help at this point, but it might.

 

[alldodge]

Plumbers tape is the below. It comes in plastic and metal and various sizes


Called FL Marine Tank and got an 1100 dollar price for all new. Don't want to but if I have to I will.

 

[tpenfield]

I'm not having any luck sketching something, but these are some pictures I found on my computer . . .

wedge boards on the corners . . . one on the hull, one touching the corner of the tank and a third pounded in between. those did not do much, but kept upward pressure.

then I cut the ends of some 1x3 strapping boards at a 45 degree angle so it was like a scraper . . . and ran the flat side in along the bottom of the tank to peel away the foam from the bottom of the tank.. . actually had to pound them in once I got them started peeling the foam away from the tank.

I had to do that with a few boards and in several places . . . but sure enough with less foam holding the tank down it finally started to give up and I could pound the wedge boards at the corners in some more and get another pass with separating the foam from the tank with the 1x3's. The tank finally broke loose . . .

 

[kcassells]

Send out some new pics/views of the tank and related obstacles. The plumbers tape is called "Band Iron" comes metal or plastic.

 

[alldodge]

Band Iron, not when I grew up. There was no such thing as Teflon tape only pipe dope and the like. If you google you will still find Teflon and your band iron listed, guess I'm just showing my age again
http://store.aihalaska.com/index.ph...cts_id=22926&zenid=2tldnho9321ga19djl702a2ph5

Here are some pics of current status

 

[tpenfield]

Yea, some 1 inch boards will make for better wedges than the 2x4 lumber . . . if you have cut the foam down the starboard side of the tank, then you could either use the metal plumber's tape/band iron to separate the foam from the bottom of the tank, or make a 'scraper' (or two or three) out of 1x3 strapping and pound those in under the tank.

the key is to separate the foam underneath the tank at the back end, while the wedge boards are applying upward pressure at the corners.

BTW - is the port side stringer gone? that was between the fuel tank and the water tank (right?)

 

[alldodge]

The 2x4 was used as a lever and I stand on it, the board is just laying there now. I used 1x4 and drove then under the tanks a few days ago and most would not make it in very far, only to the first rib. Cut an edge on it and tried again with only a slight bit improvement. Pounded on them so much the wood started splintering. My plumbers tape made it clear to the next rib and a slight bit farther in a couple areas.

The stringer beside the tank has been removed, rear part was wet. I have tried to cut in under the tank, gone in about a foot or so. I'm starting to think that there wasn't much water under the tank and the foam is in good shape. I'm sure there is some pitting there. Glass Dave on OSO recommended using a drywall saw, or another saw which cuts when pulled to the rear. Sure could use at least a 3 footer.

 

[kcassells]

How deep is it from the top of the tank to the bottom of the tank. Let's guess 12". That being said get a 12" sawsall blade {wood blade with rough teeth} and go completely around the tank to separate the tank from the foam. If you have to keep it up an inch then so be it. The tank will be sitting on a "deck" that is not the hull. The hull will be 2-3" below the wood deck. Then try to pry loose like you have been doing. You need to separate the tank from all the sides.

 

[kcassells]

belly tank;




This is the platform under my tank;


Looking down after tank was out;


You Can Doit!

 

[kcassells]

after it was out and cleaned up alittle;

 

[kcassells]

Iffin you do need a new tank here is a schematic I made of mine that you can use for pricing. Just scratch out the dimensions and put yours in;

View attachment PDF GAS TANK DIMENSIONS.pdf View attachment PDF GAS TANK DIMENSIONS.pdf