FAIRENHEIT 9/11 REVIEW

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by ebb:<br /> i'm at a loss. i can't fathom the logic in pascifism on this plane.

Ya can't fathom what does not exsist, ebb. True pacifism and logic are, often, an oxymoron.

 

[ob]

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Some people will just never get it ebb.They either don't realize or don't want to realize how close they were to not even existing post 1940's.The same one's squealing like spoiled children now will be first in line to whine when their freedoms are a thing of the past while waiting for their turn to be beheaded.

 

[ebbtide176]

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that is true, what you just listed. however, i'm sure this topic will not die with our comments. <br /><br />so, in the true heart of debate, i will address the other BS listed... no pun intended<br /><br />separating iraq from terrorists:<br /><br />it can be cried & clamored upon, but we know from intelligence- that iraqi intell agents met with alquaida agents concerning acquistion of bomb(neuclear parts/chemicals). also refinery parts. and that the agents involved had saddam's approval, to be involved. we have intel from numerous adjacent countries, even those outside of american influence. all the facts that can be disuputed by american lawyers can also be considered by the fact of their military credentials within their own regimes. <br /><br />as much as americans might feel our ability, these middle-east countries do not have our control. we can talk about our superiority, but it is not something that controls all middleastern govs. we would be stupid to believe otherwise.<br /><br />we do have (post 911) cooperation of terrorist org info sharing with other govs now though.

 

[mrbscott19]

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just for the record, Saddam didn't gas the Kurds. Look it up. It was an Iranian blood agent that killed them. Or is the CIA lying?<br /><br />I still haven't seen any real intelligence pointing to all this stuff you guys are talking about. Connections to Al Qaeda, WMD's, where is all the proof? Just show me some cold hard proof that stands up to scrutiny.<br /><br />So Al Qaeda and people of Saddam's sat down and talked a few times, but nothing ever came of it. If Saddam was in with Al Qaeda, and Saddam has all these WMD's, how is it that Al Qaeda never got ahold of any of that stuff? And these meetings happened in the 90's, so either they got some, and are now pretty much ineffective since they weren't used, or Saddam never gave them any.<br /><br />Every reason for going to war has turned out to be BS. Show me where it's not. NO WMD's, NO cooperation with terrorists. Twist and spin all you like. But there has been no stockpiles of WMD found and no proof of cooperation between Saddam and Al Qaeda.<br /><br />If there was undeniable proof of either, I would change my views on the war. But there's not, so I won't.

 

[samagee]

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Lets see, you sit down and talk with someone. Nothing comes from a conversation between two groups that hate a particular nation. The one party of that meeting is known to fund suicide bombers, yet you don't think he sent any money or support to them. Very interesting problem solving skills you have there.

 

[gaugeguy]

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[blacktie]

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We would have known that Iraq had (or still has) WMDs when they used them. Of course, then it will be too late. And then, the left would have bashed the administration for not doing enough to stop it (just like the movie we are discussing does). Additionally, just because we cannot find them now, does not mean they weren't there then. If our media broadcasted for 3 months solid that the DEA was going to raid a particular crystal meth lab in the US, what do you think the odds are that we would find a lab when the raid finally went off?<br /><br />The same holds true for Iraq/Al-Quaeda. Had we done nothing, and Iraq collaborated in another attack post-9/11 on the US (like V. Putin of Russia has stated last week...look it up) , we would have pummelled the administration for not seeing the connection, and preventing it. But when the administration acts before an act was committed, then they are damned because "they haven't done anything to us".<br /><br />Bottom line here...we are dealing with a group of people who believe that the Western Nations and allies must be eliminated. This is built into their culture and religion, and it has happened over hundreds of years. We are fools if we think that any of our officials (not Bush, not Kerry, none of them) are going to change that fact through sanctions or diplomacy. They are not interested in diplomacy. This is not like the Palestinian situation, where they would be appeased with certain homeland (or so they say). The Middle Eastern Islamic nation will not be appeased until western culture, government, and life is eliminated...or recedes into complete isolationism.

 

[javamonkee]

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Wife is a newspaper publisher and she refers to F911 as a "mockumentary".

 

[Stratosfied]

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Blacktie, I agree with you 100%!

 

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by blacktie:<br /> We would have known that Iraq had (or still has) WMDs when they used them. Of course, then it will be too late. And then, the left would have bashed the administration for not doing enough to stop it (just like the movie we are discussing does). Additionally, just because we cannot find them now, does not mean they weren't there then. If our media broadcasted for 3 months solid that the DEA was going to raid a particular crystal meth lab in the US, what do you think the odds are that we would find a lab when the raid finally went off?<br /><br />The same holds true for Iraq/Al-Quaeda. Had we done nothing, and Iraq collaborated in another attack post-9/11 on the US (like V. Putin of Russia has stated last week...look it up) , we would have pummelled the administration for not seeing the connection, and preventing it. But when the administration acts before an act was committed, then they are damned because "they haven't done anything to us".<br /><br />Bottom line here...we are dealing with a group of people who believe that the Western Nations and allies must be eliminated. This is built into their culture and religion, and it has happened over hundreds of years. We are fools if we think that any of our officials (not Bush, not Kerry, none of them) are going to change that fact through sanctions or diplomacy. They are not interested in diplomacy. This is not like the Palestinian situation, where they would be appeased with certain homeland (or so they say). The Middle Eastern Islamic nation will not be appeased until western culture, government, and life is eliminated...or recedes into complete isolationism.

It's the same way with Homeland Security. Kerry will freely say that the administration is not doing enough for security then out of the other side of his mouth he d*mns the administration because the new powers given to the government to stop terrorist attacks are too intrusive and violating civil liberties.<br /><br />Go figure. No you really don't have to. It is plain to see. Once again it has nothing to do with good/bad, right/wrong or effective/ineffective. No matter what the administration does, the Dems rip it apart for the hope that they can make voting public think that the current administration is just plain no good. AND THEY ARE DOING IT FOR POWER. <br /><br />They could care less what negative affects they are creating. They are totally soulless.

 

[POINTER94]

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http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/trailer_sm.html <br /><br />A fair and balance rebuttal??????