Facebook parenting (tough love)

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I know about the rural south. The movie Deliverance was filmed not 20 miles from here.
 

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if this is how that guy reacts to his kids misbehaving, its no wonder she did what she did

the apple doesnt fall far from the tree

this guys problem isnt a nasty kid, its nasty parenting
 

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Stereotyping any person based on some label really sux. I grew up in an isolated island of New England elitists among rural Tar Heels and learned the truth about stereotypes while very young.

I learned that persons of color are not lazy or ignorant, that rural southerners are far from ignorant and that New England elitists are as likely to be worthless jerks as anyone.

I judge people on their actual behavior as individuals.

The behavior of this daughter is an awful demonstration of lack of respect or dignity, the father's behavior exactly the same. Both embarrass me as a red necked southerner, in anticipation of being labeled with their behavior.
 

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Stereotyping any person based on some label really sux. I grew up in an isolated island of New England elitists among rural Tar Heels and learned the truth about stereotypes while very young.

I learned that persons of color are not lazy or ignorant, that rural southerners are far from ignorant and that New England elitists are as likely to be worthless jerks as anyone.

I judge people on their actual behavior as individuals.

The behavior of this daughter is an awful demonstration of lack of respect or dignity, the father's behavior exactly the same. Both embarrass me as a red necked southerner, in anticipation of being labeled with their behavior.

This has to be the best post of this entire thread.
 

bigdee

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This guy has a facebook page...check his posts and photos he is an interesting character.
 

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Im not going to judge the guy as a whole. I will suggest that he should not have brought his family further into the net with uploading this vid.

I think he just pushed his daughter even further away.

What he needs to do ( IMO ) is sit down with her and forgive/forget all transgressions up to this moment and start from scratch. Clean the slate kinda thing.

Need to reel her in before the line snaps.
 

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Im not going to judge the guy as a whole. I will suggest that he should not have brought his family further into the net with uploading this vid.

I think he just pushed his daughter even further away.

What he needs to do ( IMO ) is sit down with her and forgive/forget all transgressions up to this moment and start from scratch. Clean the slate kinda thing.

Need to reel her in before the line snaps.

Now, I'll start sounding a little two faced: I actually think that would be the wrong direction as well. (and I'm not writing the dad off in total personally - I just this this particular action on his part is counterproductive, at least). And no offense intended Yacht Dr.:

He needs to be loving, but firm. That girl needed to hit a brick wall called "dad." She needs her world shaken up, but not by an antagonist. She needs her world shaken up by an authority who is lovingly trying to shape her character. Her dad is supposed to provide that shaping (which even in the video he's doing in a crass sense). BUT, her dad is also supposed to be her protector (which he's not doing at all in the video - he's dragging her through the marketplace). The dad is antagonistic, not authoritative. Good parenting will occasionally push a child away (unfortunately), when the child takes offense at authority exercising it's right/responsibility. Parents have to be careful to balance out enforcing right behaviors, while not "mushing" up so much that the kid never feels the consequences of intentionally being a nit-wit.

This has been an interesting thread to read.
 

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I happen to be in southern California this weekend and noticed that at the hotel where we are staying they happened to have a "Parent Leadership conference" followed by a "Gun convention" . . . :p

Who would have thunk that those go together !!!

It has crossed my mind that perhaps this whole video thing is all a publicity stunt ???
 

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And no offense intended Yacht Dr.:

He needs to be loving, but firm. That girl needed to hit a brick wall called "dad." She needs her world shaken up, but not by an antagonist. She needs her world shaken up by an authority who is lovingly trying to shape her character. Her dad is supposed to provide that shaping (which even in the video he's doing in a crass sense). BUT, her dad is also supposed to be her protector (which he's not doing at all in the video - he's dragging her through the marketplace). The dad is antagonistic, not authoritative. Good parenting will occasionally push a child away (unfortunately), when the child takes offense at authority exercising it's right/responsibility. Parents have to be careful to balance out enforcing right behaviors, while not "mushing" up so much that the kid never feels the consequences of intentionally being a nit-wit.

This has been an interesting thread to read.

No offense taken SK :) .. I can only respond to the bold text in your quote. No offense to you ..

Do I think He IS loving and firm ? Absolutely .. that is not in question.

Girl needs to hit a brick walls from 'dad' ? Well .. now that gets into discussion of Female development at that age I would say. I have no clue myself on how to raise a Daughter. I would think its a little different then raising a son... or two ;) .

But I dont think I would upload a vid of me Shooting up my sons Wii,Xbox,Ds or Legos just because I have a communication problem with him.

Fact is that I was there when he came into this world. I knew when his diaper needed changing. Fact .. I knew when he was hungry..I knew when he wanted to be picked up and coddled and when he wanted to sleep. I knew when he wanted to play .. and when he wanted to play more because he was tired and didnt want to sleep .. I know when he wanted to learn 'more' ..and I know when he wanted to learn more about what he 'learned'..I know .. .. or at least I thought.

Has he become the puzzle Piece maker in his own Life now.. Its not me to change or to enforce .. but to help him get to his own. Sure I would not hesitate on grounding or some other ritual that protects my family from harm.. but Ultimately its not really what I want after they start running. Your just in the stands rooting them on :) .

Im not sure that Parents are there to Mold there children. Sure parents try to protect .. but then the give too much too soon. This is the case now. Its a Raw mistake that this Father made with his daughter. Too much too soon.

Get rid of the the Crap and bring home the basics.

On Children
Kahlil Gibran


Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.

Peace .. YD

 

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Of course none of us know the guy personally and we're just guessing the full story on it all. Our own personal experiences have us assuming this and that.

I think he's a legend who has had enough after his daughter pushed it too far.

Myself, I nip things in the bud real early. She would never of done it a second time.

After thinking about it more I think the best thing would have been for him to just take away all of her scial media toys ,cell phone too and let her bring up the issue. Then he should say "I allowed you to have those things and NOW I am NOT ALLOWING YOU TO HAVE THEM...."We can talk about it when I believe you have the right attitude" SUBJECT CLOSED PERIOD
 

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Of course none of us know the guy personally and we're just guessing the full story on it all. Our own personal experiences have us assuming this and that.

I think he's a legend who has had enough after his daughter pushed it too far.

Myself, I nip things in the bud real early. She would never of done it a second time.

After thinking about it more I think the best thing would have been for him to just take away all of her media toys ,cell phone too and then and wait for her to bring up the issue as to why he did so . Then he should say "I allowed you to have those things and NOW I am NOT ALLOWING YOU TO HAVE THEM...."We can talk about it when I believe you have the right attitude" SUBJECT CLOSED PERIOD
 

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After thinking about it more I think the best thing would have been for him to just take away all of her scial media toys ,cell phone too and let her bring up the issue. Then he should say "I allowed you to have those things and NOW I am NOT ALLOWING YOU TO HAVE THEM...."We can talk about it when I believe you have the right attitude" SUBJECT CLOSED PERIOD

I think that is what he did, he just did it a little dramatic. IMHO he paid for the laptop and destroyed his property.
 

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Over 40 years ago my wife was beaten by her father with a belt to the point her mother wrote her an excuse from PE so no one would see the welts. The offense? She questioned why she couldn't attend a school function. She moved out the day she turned 18 and didn't see her parents again for years.
Nothing really new in the poor parenting department, some is just more public now days.............
 

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The polls show he has 78% supporting him.....in his home town WHERE EVERYONE KNOWS HIM it is close to 100% unless you know this guy it is unfair to judge him. He addressed that video to 12 of his daughters friends, he had no intentions of it going public thinking the her friends would be too embarrassed to leak it out. Being a very savvy IT guy he did know that was a possibility though. His intended goal was to make the point of how harmful it can be to post things that you would regret later in life. This was not the first offense, she had been warned earlier....no punishment but a constructive lecture from dad with a heads-up warning that if she done this again something bad was going to happen. He did what he said he was going to do and kudos to him. He did not do this in retaliation and afterwards he and his daughter sat on the patio and had a long father/daughter talk. She is not mad with her dad. He had the love and intellect to explain to her why he chose to do this. So he destroyed a laptop big deal he probably has a dozen of them laying around.....he is in that business.

This is good guy below is a quote from Tommy himself:

"Just went back to see, and the original goal for the Muscular Dystrophy Association for our area was $40,000 amongst all the volunteers who participated.

Just off these facebook shares alone, you guys have helped raised over $5,000.00... that's about 16 percent of the total.. not counting all the thousands of dollars others have raised.

If I'm going to have a goal on here, let's see if we can make it one that's just astronomically impossible to achieve! Can we collectively raise 40,000 just off this facebook wall and your sharing of this link?

I've received MILLIONS of hits the last couple days.. 99% of them for something I can't be proud of (though I do stand behind it). If even 1% of the viewers make a donation of $1.00 to the MDA, you guys alone can be responsible for helping hundreds of kids this year. "
 

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There is a reason he is doing this other stuff. To get people to shift attention from his ridiculous video stunt.

He definitely is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame though...what a loser.

And Bigdee...very weird fascination with supporting this guy if I may say.
He is well known and active in the community but I do not know him personally
Especially someone you don't even know personally.

He addressed that video to 12 of his daughters friends, he had no intentions of it going public thinking the her friends would be too embarrassed to leak it out. Being a very savvy IT guy he did know that was a possibility though.
He knew what could happen and he did it anyway...what an idiot! Great if all's well that ends well in his family but he took a HUGE gamble.
 

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There is a reason he is doing this other stuff. To get people to shift attention from his ridiculous video stunt.

He definitely is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame though...what a loser.

And Bigdee...very weird fascination with supporting this guy if I may say.
Especially someone you don't even know personally.

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Bruce,your not from Endy and you don't know the whole story, so I don't expect you to understand....I am not going to cast the first stone
If your judgments are based on just the video.....then you might be right.
 

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Let me get this straight, He is in the I.T. business... He had no intentions of it going public by posting on Facebook ???

Get real !!
I second the weird fascination comment. :rolleyes:
 

bigdee

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Let me get this straight, He is in the I.T. business... He had no intentions of it going public by posting on Facebook ???

Get real !!
I second the weird fascination comment. :rolleyes:

OK guys.....I apologize for getting too obsessive.....I'll shut up
 
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