Re: Do You Believe?
I hate to give the satisfaction of taking the bait, but this is too hypocritical to ignore. PW2 says:<br /><br />" There are, it seems to me, fewer and fewer political "moderates" out there, and things like talk radio and the internet are convincing many that the world is black and white, and that simple solutions will always work, if it weren't for the opposition, or the "activist judiciary", or the "whacko environmentalists", or you name the group. It is indeed troubling." <br /><br />We are indeed divided, but the attitude expressed above is straight down the party line. No independent thought there. It says that the opposing view is stupid, invalid and therefore to be dismissed. That is not moderate, it is a false elitism. Yes PW2, you are on the record saying quagmire. The fight right now is for morale, strength of will, and the outcome of this struggle may well depend on this battle for hearts and minds. Your attitude PW2 is one that strengthens the morale of the enemy. You have given up or probably more accurately have never been a part of and indeed have been a force against us in this fight for hearts and minds from the beginning. Of course I can see that if you think the war is unwinnable, or a waste that these views would save lives or stem the flow of blood. So, I don't call this treason or traitorous. No, it is not black and white, but your zeal for perceiving this war as an unwinnable quagmire gives strength of will to the enemy and leads to doubt here at home and on the front lines...and that part is just like Vietnam. That is the one trick that the liberal pony knows. Makes the enemy want to behead more captives, bomb more police stations, and makes them believe that the Paper tiger assessment of UBL is accurate. Do you factor that into your moderation?? Well, I for one factor the danger of "quagmire" into my moderation. I want us to avoid that. I'd hope that you could be afraid like I am, like we all are, but not be so darn sure in the correctness of your opinion. Afterall, it is not black and white. Did I point out that all the Vietnam talk, the quagmire talk, is the liberal version of fear mongering? I've heard the attacks on the republicans for fear mongering, so that comment is for fairness and balance. When FDR said "we have nothing to fear but fear itself", this Vietnam/quagmire type fear is the kind of fear he was talking about. Note that I am not trying to silence you, this is simply a fair exercise of free speech from us both. This is not typed with personal malice, as I think we are both fairly arguing what is being debated at the National level.
I hate to give the satisfaction of taking the bait, but this is too hypocritical to ignore. PW2 says:<br /><br />" There are, it seems to me, fewer and fewer political "moderates" out there, and things like talk radio and the internet are convincing many that the world is black and white, and that simple solutions will always work, if it weren't for the opposition, or the "activist judiciary", or the "whacko environmentalists", or you name the group. It is indeed troubling." <br /><br />We are indeed divided, but the attitude expressed above is straight down the party line. No independent thought there. It says that the opposing view is stupid, invalid and therefore to be dismissed. That is not moderate, it is a false elitism. Yes PW2, you are on the record saying quagmire. The fight right now is for morale, strength of will, and the outcome of this struggle may well depend on this battle for hearts and minds. Your attitude PW2 is one that strengthens the morale of the enemy. You have given up or probably more accurately have never been a part of and indeed have been a force against us in this fight for hearts and minds from the beginning. Of course I can see that if you think the war is unwinnable, or a waste that these views would save lives or stem the flow of blood. So, I don't call this treason or traitorous. No, it is not black and white, but your zeal for perceiving this war as an unwinnable quagmire gives strength of will to the enemy and leads to doubt here at home and on the front lines...and that part is just like Vietnam. That is the one trick that the liberal pony knows. Makes the enemy want to behead more captives, bomb more police stations, and makes them believe that the Paper tiger assessment of UBL is accurate. Do you factor that into your moderation?? Well, I for one factor the danger of "quagmire" into my moderation. I want us to avoid that. I'd hope that you could be afraid like I am, like we all are, but not be so darn sure in the correctness of your opinion. Afterall, it is not black and white. Did I point out that all the Vietnam talk, the quagmire talk, is the liberal version of fear mongering? I've heard the attacks on the republicans for fear mongering, so that comment is for fairness and balance. When FDR said "we have nothing to fear but fear itself", this Vietnam/quagmire type fear is the kind of fear he was talking about. Note that I am not trying to silence you, this is simply a fair exercise of free speech from us both. This is not typed with personal malice, as I think we are both fairly arguing what is being debated at the National level.
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