Cox Craft 85 Gutted and Rebuild.........ing

Woodonglass

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I'd cut the splashwell at the gunwales on the redline in the pic. Maybe even a few inches forward of the red line. You can glue on some alignment cleats on the back side and they will also reinforce the panel and make it less likely to flex and crack after the repair is complete. Once filled,faired and painted you'll never know it was cut. Cutting it your way will be much harder and will not give you full access to the transom. I am NOT a big fan of extended Transom Motor PODS. I KNOW some people are and have installed them with great success. I just don't like em and so I don't know much about em!!!


 
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Barramundi NQ

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I'd cut the splashwell at the gunwales on the redline in the pic. Maybe even a few inches forward of the red line. You can glue on some alignment cleats on the back side and they will also reinforce the panel and make it less likely to flex and crack after the repair is complete. Once filled,faired and painted you'll never know it was cut. Cutting it your way will be much harder and will not give you full access to the transom. I am NOT a big fan of extended Transom Motor PODS. I KNOW some people are and have installed them with great success. I just don't like em and so I don't know much about em!!!

Glass and alloy pods are popular here as an easy way to extend the length of the hull without having to go to the extent that "oops" went to. The extra flotation added helps with the bouyancy. I've never built one so I was hoping someone could chime in and put me in the right direction with the construction of the POD.

WOG, I've decided to follow you and kcassells and rickryders common sense approach to the cutting of the splashwell. Reinstall will come later.:encouragement:
 

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Sooooo they are Riveted to the fiberglass and then somehow sealed with some kind of sealant?? I may have to re-think the de-capitation thing. You may need to flip this hull and do some extensive glass work on this hull. You have a LOT of stress fractures on the hull as evidenced by the MAJOR spider web cracks and then theres the aluminum patches that I've NEVER seen done before. I'm wondering what THAT's all about. I fear she may have suffered some Major damage and the PO placed these pieces of aluminum on the hull to beef up some fractured glass. I guess once you get the deck removed so you can see the area that's over these patches you'll be able to tell what's going on a bit better. This old girl has seen better days, that's for sure!!!!:eek:
 

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Actually wood, the fixings are screws. They have a metal cutting tip. There is a 3-4inch crack under the aluminium repair. The spider veins are everywhere so much work ahead of me.



Here are the screws





Some of the cracks from the inside



 

Woodonglass

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Boy oh Boy, one things for sure, You need to be prepared to do a full overlay of a least one layer of 1708 on the hulls interior and possibly two. From these preliminary pics she's in pretty bad shape. Once you get her totally stripped down and ground down and cleaned up we'll be able to do a better assessment.
 

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Jury is still out for now. As I said you need to clean up the inside of the hull a bit more so we can get a better view. I'd get that aluminum off the outside too. I fear she's had some major IMPACT to the hull and if so she COULD be a lost cause but I'm not prepared to make that call just yet.:noidea:
 

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Seem the picture issue has been solved. Nice boat there. But seriously in need of LOTS of work. If you have the ability and the time and of course the money, it can be made into a nice boat. But there is a lot of work ahead before that is going to happen. Anything can be rebuilt. But the big question is, do you love this boat? Because you can spend a ton of money to make it like new again. So YOU have to make such a decision whether it is worth the money and work. If you make that decision it is worth your effort, you come to the absolute best place for assistance and professional knowledge. Not from me, I'm still a newbie by and measurement. But there are others with vast amounts of ability and knowledge to help you out. It basically works like this, you provide the pictures and work and of course the money, and they will guide you with the how to info!
 

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Tough call....The $ching $ching is a big factor. So is grabbing another boat and doing a rehab. Good luck. A materia/cost list may make or break your call. Forget the labor it's free! :noidea:
 

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Jury is still out for now. As I said you need to clean up the inside of the hull a bit more so we can get a better view. I'd get that aluminum off the outside too. I fear she's had some major IMPACT to the hull and if so she COULD be a lost cause but I'm not prepared to make that call just yet.:noidea:

That impact was mine, the repair was a friend of mine helping out without pulling the boat apart......something I've clearly now begun. I'll continue with the deconstruction to get to the hull from the inside. Will decap. As I get to the inside of the hull it will be clear what to do. Either way I'd like to think I can restore her for a number of reasons. I know that I'm in the right place for advice too!
 

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Hi Barra, Mind if i join in for the long haul, not much experience but i have some.
that cap join looks identical to the one on the 1979 Pride Albertros, i think youll find it has s/s staples every 20/30 mm
we used a Flapper wheel on the grinder to take the tops n bottoms off then punched the rest out with a 1mm drift punch
 

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Hi Barra, Mind if i join in for the long haul, not much experience but i have some.
that cap join looks identical to the one on the 1979 Pride Albertros, i think youll find it has s/s staples every 20/30 mm
we used a Flapper wheel on the grinder to take the tops n bottoms off then punched the rest out with a 1mm drift punch

Welcome mitt64

No staples in the joint betwen the two lips....sorry! There is a glue /resin that is there as cutting is hard with a diamond disc. I need a skinny diamond disc, mine is too big and I'm concerned about taking too much of either the cap or hull or both!

Update tomorrow, hopefully with pics of the decapitation!

Cheers from Ozzie!
 

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Tough call....The $ching $ching is a big factor. So is grabbing another boat and doing a rehab. Good luck. A materia/cost list may make or break your call. Forget the labor it's free! :noidea:

I'm more of a "I can do this" kinda guy. Even if the cost outweigh the intrinsic value of the boat......it's mine and I'd rather fix it than throw it.....Labour is always free!!!!:D
 

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The plus side is that even though you may spend more than its worth....you know what you have! I know my boat is now built much stronger and will last for many years.
 

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I'm more of a "I can do this" kinda guy. Even if the cost outweigh the intrinsic value of the boat......it's mine and I'd rather fix it than throw it.....Labour is always free!!!!:D


That's the right attitude!
Game on and glad to hear it! Time to grind that little thang down. Get geared up with the right tools and protection gear cause you gots a whirlwind of mess and pain coming your way!!
 
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