Courtesy Fishing, Where did it go?

[We're Here]

Re: Courtesy Fishing, Where did it go?

I'm out there to enjoy myself. Confrontation is not relaxing. Neither is revenge. People can be rude, intentionally or not. You can't fix them by being rude back.

 

[Dave-in-Olathe]

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My wife and I have a little tourney every chance we get, "First fish, Largest fish, Smallest fish and Most fish". She usually wins lol. We stay to the smaller lakes and prefer to use the trolling motor most of the time. Seems that we still catch plenty of good fish and they do taste great when we get home.

 

[LadyFish]

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My wife and I have a little tourney every chance we get, "First fish, Largest fish, Smallest fish and Most fish". She usually wins lol. We stay to the smaller lakes and prefer to use the trolling motor most of the time. Seems that we still catch plenty of good fish and they do taste great when we get home.

We do too but I haven't been a winner in a long time. There is some hole hoppin going on right in our boat. Whomever lands on the fish first, the other person seems to somehow get over to that spot.

See you can have somebody take over your fishing spot right on your very own boat.

 

['96 Charger]

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Fishing w friends and a friendly bet on most/largest is way more Fun and enjoyable than any large entry/payout tounament IMO.Fishing should be about relaxing and friends and dinner.not just winning or losing.courtesy should be a given w any form of fishing or boating though. especially for a tournament fisherman.if i think someones moved to close to me Ill sometimes cast near them,they usally get my point and move away.I could understand him getting that close to another tourny fisheman but he obviously knew you were not in it and could care less because you were fishing "His" fish and he could get as close as he wanted!The SOB probably had a crappy day thinking you ruined his hole! WAAAAHHH.I actually have more trouble w ski/wake boats and D*** jetskis courtesy than other fisherman on the lakes I fish.I think there should be designated areas to jetski or some licence requirements so someone could explain how its rude to ride by/near someone fishing the bank on a large lake, on a loud, fast watercraft when theres plenty of lake to pass farther away!!I have a special rod/chrome hopkins for boats/jetskis that approach to close at speed, They usually see the lure or the splash and make more room for their pass!!I can chunk it a looong way and they seem to pass even further away the next time I see um!

My fishing buddy busted out the windshield of a brand new Triton one time that ran in on top of him. Good thing I wasn't with him that day because I would have "cleaned his clock". Owner of the Triton wasn't happy but he eventually took off in a huff. I've stopped a heavy lure just short of someone elses boat but never hit their boat. I have no problem fishing behind someone because I know the only person that will fish a spot the way I want to is me. And someone else catching the little fish gives me a better chance of maybe catching a hawg later on while the little fish are all sorelipped. The best way to fix someones bad habit of getting too close is to force them into where it's shallow causing them to damage their boat. If someone's too ignorant to swing to open water and chooses to go between the bank and your boat they deserve to lose a lower unit.

 

[dooma_Flatchy]

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I just found it interesting that you went on and on about your angling prowess to the point of comparing yourself to the bass boaters, local tournament guys, and local guides. Then boost that this feat was accomplished while fishing from a pontoon boat which would seem to imply an inferoir fishing platform.

No, I said that I take my fishing serious as those mentioned not above them. Others do see pontoon fishing less than bass fishing from bass boats.

 

[DJ]

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Courtesy went away when fishing became a competitive sport for macho scatheads instead of a relaxing recreational pastime for gentlemen.

That is why I won't fish the heavily fished waters or within 100 yards of another fisherman.

That could not have been better stated. Thank you JB. That's why I don't fish in AZ.

 

['96 Charger]

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What if the gleam of a sparkle boat is blinding you? Does that mean they're too close? I ask this because I detailed mine and boy is it purdy

 

[mommicked]

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The sparkles hipnotize the fish and make them easier to catch.thats cheating!

 

[gonefishie]

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The sparkles hipnotize the fish and make them easier to catch.thats cheating!

Kinda like diamond catches women?

 

[Mark_VTfisherman]

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OK, Mark, let me see if I have this straight.

You don't.

OK, Mark, let me see if I have this straight.You get pissed if someone "trolls in on you" when you're anchored and you snag their lures and throw them back at them. Then when you're trolling you get pissed if some poor soul decides to anchor in the very spot you and "the whole fleet" were planning to troll.

Actually, I *give* their lures back to them.

Do you hand out maps and books of instruction at the ramp telling people to stay away from these prime trolling spots? Gotta say you're sounding kind of ike a jerk yourself.

The title of this thread, "Courtesy Fishing, Where did it go?" is about, well, courtesy. Courtesy implores one to consider others - parking over the spot that 95% of the bass and walleye fishermen move through isn't courtesy- it's rude.

I guess if that opinion makes me a jerk, well, I'd rather be criticized for being courteous (rude?) while still being irked at the incourteous and yet myself promoting courtesy. It ain't all about me.

 

[jjacobs007]

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only one thing to do in this situation,Catch that big lunker in front of him and throw her in your livewell,oh ya ive done this many times.No fussing,or blowin hole just pick off the big mamma and he will leave feeling like a loser in his 40,000 boat.As far as the shirts and hats and boat paint jobs i think there cool.

 

[jjacobs007]

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In some places "elbow to elbow" is accepted practice.

In most cases, If you are within casting distance of someone else, you are way too close.

Unless I am in the former, I will not tolerate "encroachment". It's just plain rude and I have no patience for a lack of manners.

With very few exceptions glitter boat tourney guys are about the only ones I have trouble with.

Yes, yes, it is public water, but your Mother should have taught you manners.

On the other hand,,, Taking a chunk out of shiny gelcoat with an 8 oz no-roll, or snagging a line and jerking a high dollar rod and reel out of someone's hands can be a humorous diversion!

thats funny!

 

[jjacobs007]

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What if the gleam of a sparkle boat is blinding you? Does that mean they're too close? I ask this because I detailed mine and boy is it purdy

man that sure is purd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!y.rub some of that on my starcraft if u see me.

 

[Mark_VTfisherman]

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thats funny!

I checked back on this thread to see where it went. It made me want to rant, which I will commence here:

In the early days of our country, people had to get along and defend one another, look out for one another. One hundred or maybe one hundred fifty years later, "we" went to war with the King, predominantly on the premise of escaping tyranny and defining collective as well as individual rights.

In 2010, it seems, "we" have gone beyond these admirable, though perhaps sometimes personally inconvenient, ideals. Regardless of the law, popping an 8oz bait off a shiny boat is deemed acceptable, even humorous, perhaps because those who do so hold individually interpreted and applied rights as superior to the personal and collective rights outlined by the framers of our constitution. Those who do so want their personal rights, but are unwilling to work within the collective-rights dichotomy which insured them their individual rights to begin with! The resultant thinking is, "hooray for me, boohoo for you." Self-indulgence as opposed to self-reliance.

We are fortunate to be in a country where "the public" owns free-flowing and lake waters, the free-roaming game animals, fish under the water. "The public" entrusts publicly elected leaders of the US republic with the responsibility to create the laws, guidelines, and management agencies to oversee the fish, game, and publicly accessible places to engage in our sporting pursuits.

Perhaps "we" have come so far that it will take the loss of some or our rights due to the "hooray-for-me-ers" behavior to get people to straighten up. The threats, fights, and near-fights at the boat launch, slashed tires, and angler actions on the water I have witnessed are quite juvenile. ***-for-tat like a couple of jealous 11-year-old boys duking it out over who-cut-who in line at lunch is what it looks like. When "winning" comes off as immature and tacky, then it really isn't winning at all. Being dumb and all jealous and revengeful and whatever- that's for nine-year-olds. That's why they don't let 9-year-old kids drive cars: their judgment and common sense isn't impaired: it is immature.

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I'm out there to enjoy myself. Confrontation is not relaxing. Neither is revenge. People can be rude, intentionally or not. You can't fix them by being rude back.

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[cwilt]

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fore score snd seven years ago...........

 

[greenbush future]

Play nice

Play nice

We get complaints all the time on the great lakes and the Detroit River every time the tourney guys decide to hold an event. Not sure if it?s the competitive nature of tournaments, or testosterone, or what?? I don?t think tourneys are what fishing is all about but to each there own. However if you think you can come in and force your presence upon where I happen to be, you will get met with great resistance. There is common sense that tends to be lacking and it?s usually with tourney guys when it happens. These are the people who know better and should be leading by example, but they don?t. I?ve seen it happen way too many times to suggest it was an isolated thing with one person. That isn?t fishing, that is poor behavior, and it isn?t nice or desired. For all the decent fishermen out there, make sure you get the boat registration #?s and turn these people in, they shouldn?t be allowed on the lake if they cant respect the rest of us fishermen.

 

[DANZIG]

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Mark VT,

Unfortunately there are a lot of rude people out there that just will not respond to anything else.

Does it teach them anything? Well, it does teach them not to behave that way toward me again. Hopefully they learn not to do it to anyone else, or at least think twice before they do.

So if you feel the urge to be rude, remember, there are folks like me out there.
If you want to play, I will be more than happy to oblige.

 

[Mark_VTfisherman]

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.... However if you think you can come in and force your presence upon where I happen to be, you will get met with great resistance....that is poor behavior, and it isn?t nice or desired. For all the decent fishermen out there, make sure you...turn these people in....

I believe in holding my own. Kudos. As others have mentioned, the best defense (revenge) is catching a fish right in front of them although I have no idea what the Gettysburg Address has to do with. This. Thread.

 

[iowafish]

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These are some of the reasons that I like to fish in the most remote places during the worst weather I can stand. There is a bumper sticker that came from the Kennedy Space Center on the transom of my Lund that reads "I need my space".

 

[Mark_VTfisherman]

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These are some of the reasons that I like to fish in the most remote places during the worst weather I can stand. There is a bumper sticker that came from the Kennedy Space Center on the transom of my Lund that reads "I need my space".

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