Courtesy Fishing, Where did it go?

[j_martin]

Re: Courtesy Fishing, Where did it go?

The way I take it is to get on the side he was fishing to and crank the big motor to jump out on plane and ride out the area that the fish are in.

I love it when someone does that to me. Their prop confuses and injures baitfish, and the big bass roll in to pick up the pieces. My plastic worm will be found in the foam trail along with the rest of lunch for them.

 

[j_martin]

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I would have no problem with someone fishing 100 feet away from me. Tolerance and people working together is the key.



Speaking of tolerance, how far away does one have to be before they have to ask permission from a Master pontoon bass fisherman?

No permission needed. Throw your plastic worm right against their pontoon, and let it sink. It really ticks them off when you pull a lunker from under their boat.

 

[dooma_Flatchy]

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I would have no problem with someone fishing 100 feet away from me. Tolerance and people working together is the key.

You wouldn't have a problem if a boat pulls up a 100 feet in the direction you were fishing? My boat was angled that way, It was obvious the direction I was headed.

Speaking of tolerance, how far away does one have to be before they have to ask permission from a Master pontoon bass fisherman?

Why the slam on pontoon boat fishing, What difference it maketo what kind of boat it is? Just because I bass fish from my pontoon doesn't mean I don't know how to fish.
By the way I caught 11 that day before noon, Wonder how Mr.Tourney did?

 

[paultjohnson]

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I don't know where you are from but next time they do that get the guys reg #'s and go talk to the sponsors of the tourney and and your local fish and game. Here in PA the tourney sponsors will usually DQ the guy for being un-sportsman like. They have to follow the same rules you do. Most tourneys in my area are on public lakes and if too many complaints get to DCNR and fish and game they aren't allowed to have one on that lake again. I had a similar issue last summer when about 20 boats darn near swamped us. We were about 20 feet from the no wake bouys and as soon as they cleared the bouys the hit the gas. They were about 50 ft from us and every one did it. On the way out I stopped and payed DCNR a visit and they had a little chat with the whole group that was in the tourney. I wasn't the only one that complained that day. The DCNR guys said get the reg #'s next time and they'll start writing tickets because are tired of this happening.

Good idea! I like it... Cuz in general I try to be the ultra considerate one on the water. Im the one that jogs back and forth to my truck when launching and retrieving. I rarely take more then about 90 sec to launch if I have a helper to park the truck. 3 or 4 min if I am alone. My boat is preped in the prep area, not on the ramp. I start it on muffs before I head out so I know it starts. If someone is fishn' I take as wide a berth as possible going around. If I am going by a boat launch and someones using it, I slow down to a no wake speed weather its posted or not. I help--not criticize the new guy. I take my trash and on quite a few occasions, Ive picked up some thats on the beach and disposed of it properly. Any glass for sure. I monitor chan 16 on my marine band in case someones in distress. I carry tools and a first aid kit. I dont boat under the influence. [I have , but saw the error of my ways, no more] Sure I have had my off days. but this is how I try to boat, and set an example.
But if ya wanna be a total jackasshole to me, or someone else for that matter.... I can play that too.. but I soooo prefer not too...

 

[mommicked]

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Fishing w friends and a friendly bet on most/largest is way more Fun and enjoyable than any large entry/payout tounament IMO.Fishing should be about relaxing and friends and dinner.not just winning or losing.courtesy should be a given w any form of fishing or boating though. especially for a tournament fisherman.if i think someones moved to close to me Ill sometimes cast near them,they usally get my point and move away.I could understand him getting that close to another tourny fisheman but he obviously knew you were not in it and could care less because you were fishing "His" fish and he could get as close as he wanted!The SOB probably had a crappy day thinking you ruined his hole! WAAAAHHH.I actually have more trouble w ski/wake boats and D*** jetskis courtesy than other fisherman on the lakes I fish.I think there should be designated areas to jetski or some licence requirements so someone could explain how its rude to ride by/near someone fishing the bank on a large lake, on a loud, fast watercraft when theres plenty of lake to pass farther away!!I have a special rod/chrome hopkins for boats/jetskis that approach to close at speed, They usually see the lure or the splash and make more room for their pass!!I can chunk it a looong way and they seem to pass even further away the next time I see um!

 

[ngt]

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This is what i meant. It's not nice, but if a guy did that, he'd deserve it. Might make a enemy , but it didn't sound like he wanted to be friends in the first place.

Oh yeah, I know. He easily deserved it. I definitely agree with you on that one. I was just explaining it, as that guy didn't get a good answer to his question.

I'm usually the first to follow good boating and friendly boating stuff, but hey, sometimes someone needs an F.U. to realize that what they are doing isn't the best idea and not everyone will take their crap.

 

[TerryMSU]

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Perhaps it was a matter of viewpoint. I was fishing on the river this summer and it a wide spot in the river I set up a drift. Because of the wind I was drifting toward anothe fishermans boat where he had anchored near a rock. m when I got about a hundred yards from him I would start up an pull away and start the drift again. The drift took about 10 or 20 minutes. Did this twice and the third time the jerk took rather violent offense. He did what I would have thought you meant by blow the hole out. He did several loud and obnoxious donuts and then cuused me out about "messing with a man's fishing". One possible cause might have been a rather loud airboat that went thru about 30 or 40 minutes before. Not my fault, but I can understand his frustration. Also, not his private river, so tough luck.

TerryMSU

 

[JB]

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Lot of examples of boat rage in this thread. Really bad examples.

My advice is to stay away; if that doesn't work, withdraw from the situation. Harrassing the offender is just macho bad judgement and could turn out to be very dangerous.

That is why I won't fish those places.

 

[fishrdan]

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I do the "get even thing" too, but it's more low keyed...

If they are following me while I'm long-line trolling, I'll troll over a bunch of submerged trees. It doesn't bother my top water lures, but fouls up their diving lures. Or troll through a really tight spot, submerged reef or in between a buoy that's really close to shore,,, kind of, threading the needle while long line trolling.

If I'm drifting & casting and they come up and start following my drift (so they can see what I'm doing) I'll drop anchor so they get too close and leave, or just stay anchored in a spot and let the current carry them away.

Most of the time I just crank up the outboard and move a couple miles away as I don't like "big fish fishing" around others.

 

[Mark_VTfisherman]

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I'll never understand these tournament guys. I love to fish but I don't really have that primal competitive urge that would make me want to fish tournaments. Not that I think all tournament anglers are like that. I just think some guys like the competition more than the fishing. Win at all costs and what not.

I DO have that competitive urge. But winning at all costs isn't part of that, and isn't for many of those who compete.

I actually challenge myself sometimes and fish where others and me don't just to have the challenge! I am fishing my first tourney Nov 6- Frostbite Salmon Shootout on Champlain. None of the guys in that group would act like these (now) 31 posts claim they do.

If someone trolls "in" on me, well, I have pulled their lures aboard, untangled, and tossed them back with a chide on angler's "honor" themes.

Other times, I have be pissed off when some dude parks his boat on anchor right over the end of a drop that EVERYONE trolls over. At times up to ten or more boats troll over a reef edge at Carmi for example. The dude that throttles in, sets down, and all basically in front of the whole "fleet," well, he's a jerk, but here's a question: where's the golden rule in all this?

Do unto others as you would have (prefer/like) them do unto you.

It's what grown men do when they're acting like a 5 yrs old throwing temper tantrum. The only thing that does is pissed off the other guys. Two wrongs don't make a right in this case.

Two wrongs never make a right imho. Kudos on the 5-year-old comparison.

The best revenge is when you troll by the jerk who motored in and parked right in front of a whole fleet running the "pattern" and you or another boat catches a nice one right off his bow! I was running a popular course with a bunch of other boaters. Made a number of passes on nearly the same GPS mark. Other boats made me troll 10' feet off an anchor, 30 feet from the bow of a boater who did this once as my options were cut off by shallow water on the inside, and another boat ahead of me maneuvering a turn to head back through on my outside. Pulling up our four lines and stopping in a breeze wasn't looking attractive, so I just split it by running in close to the parked boat. Just about there and my rod jumped with a nice walleye right off his bow! Two other boats behind me now had me, the turning boat, and the anchored one to contend with. One went inside, one tailed me, and the now disgusted anchor dude pulled up and left. On plane of course. It was "that" point everyone wanted to fish, and it seemed he didn't want to share. But I caught the fish! Quite satisfying and my motive wasn't revenge, just fishing.

Jerks are jerks but we don't have to participate, and I wonder how our "bad" behavior effects kids who are often aboard ours and others boats.

 

[scipper77]

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I DO have that competitive urge. But winning at all costs isn't part of that, and isn't for many of those who compete.

Like I said. I don't think that all tournament anglers are like that. But some definitely are.

 

[gonefishie]

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I don't generally don't get too perturbed with the regular guy out fishing that gets a bit too close. It's the case of the tourney turkeys that hold a douche bag sense of entitlement that push me to the macho bad judgement stage.

Yes JB, it does get a bit dangerous. In fact, horrific! You just put your gloves on and catch the 15 dollar lucky crafts and keep em. I didn't choose to fling em at my boat

I don't think entitlement is the attitude that they have. Most likely, that's where they have found the fish that they needed. The fun fishing guys would just go somewhere else cuz they don't have to catch any fish.

Nobody will ever cast their $15 lucky craft close enough to you where you can catch it. If they're ignorance enough to move in on you and cast that close to you. They'd be stupid enough to pull a gun on you too.

 

[DANZIG]

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In some places "elbow to elbow" is accepted practice.

In most cases, If you are within casting distance of someone else, you are way too close.

Unless I am in the former, I will not tolerate "encroachment". It's just plain rude and I have no patience for a lack of manners.

With very few exceptions glitter boat tourney guys are about the only ones I have trouble with.

Yes, yes, it is public water, but your Mother should have taught you manners.

On the other hand,,, Taking a chunk out of shiny gelcoat with an 8 oz no-roll, or snagging a line and jerking a high dollar rod and reel out of someone's hands can be a humorous diversion!

 

[fishrdan]

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My 115 had a hard time keeping up that 350 verado. That puppy could move!

AH HA!

That's why those tourney guys have huge outboards on their rigs, to out run all the PO'ed people on the lake!

It's becoming much clearer now...

(I always thought it was a winky deficiency thing before )

 

[dingbat]

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You wouldn't have a problem if a boat pulls up a 100 feet in the direction you were fishing? My boat was angled that way, It was obvious the direction I was headed.

No, I would not have a problem. 100' is more than enough separation for both of you to catch fish. I would take great delight in pulling a fish out of the waters he just fished.

Why the slam on pontoon boat fishing, What difference it maketo what kind of boat it is? Just because I bass fish from my pontoon doesn't mean I don't know how to fish.
By the way I caught 11 that day before noon, Wonder how Mr.Tourney did?

I just found it interesting that you went on and on about your angling prowess to the point of comparing yourself to the bass boaters, local tournament guys, and local guides. Then boost that this feat was accomplished while fishing from a pontoon boat which would seem to imply an inferoir fishing platform.

 

[gonefishie]

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"They" meaning the douche bags or "they" meaning all of em? I guess that I must not have any fun because I always "have to catch fish"!

"Nobody will ever" is a phrase that should be dissolved from every dialect on earth due to the fact that somebody already has and someone probably will. Besides, we were just asking for a treble hook or a gun in our direction. Would have been a sad gun battle though.

At the risk of redundancy, if the fools would have asked nicely and explained the situation we probably wouldn't have been so friendly i.e. talking to them and following them around. When it comes to the entitled douches of the world, I have lost all tolerance.

My 115 had a hard time keeping up that 350 verado. That puppy could move!

Meaning all of them as your post seems to indicate. Why is it that you only get mad at the tournament guys and not the fun fishing guys? what's the different? they both are fishing "your" water aren't they? Since you always have to catch fish then you're obviously missing the point of fishing.

I guess I shouldn't have said nobody will ever because if you make the other guy mad enough and it's what he has on at the moment. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you haven't gone that far.

BTW, I would love to see how a 115 could "follow" a 350 verado that doesn't even exit.

 

[bassman284]

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I DO have that competitive urge. But winning at all costs isn't part of that, and isn't for many of those who compete.

I actually challenge myself sometimes and fish where others and me don't just to have the challenge! I am fishing my first tourney Nov 6- Frostbite Salmon Shootout on Champlain. None of the guys in that group would act like these (now) 31 posts claim they do.

If someone trolls "in" on me, well, I have pulled their lures aboard, untangled, and tossed them back with a chide on angler's "honor" themes.

Other times, I have be pissed off when some dude parks his boat on anchor right over the end of a drop that EVERYONE trolls over. At times up to ten or more boats troll over a reef edge at Carmi for example. The dude that throttles in, sets down, and all basically in front of the whole "fleet," well, he's a jerk, but here's a question: where's the golden rule in all this?

Do unto others as you would have (prefer/like) them do unto you.



Two wrongs never make a right imho. Kudos on the 5-year-old comparison.

The best revenge is when you troll by the jerk who motored in and parked right in front of a whole fleet running the "pattern" and you or another boat catches a nice one right off his bow! I was running a popular course with a bunch of other boaters. Made a number of passes on nearly the same GPS mark. Other boats made me troll 10' feet off an anchor, 30 feet from the bow of a boater who did this once as my options were cut off by shallow water on the inside, and another boat ahead of me maneuvering a turn to head back through on my outside. Pulling up our four lines and stopping in a breeze wasn't looking attractive, so I just split it by running in close to the parked boat. Just about there and my rod jumped with a nice walleye right off his bow! Two other boats behind me now had me, the turning boat, and the anchored one to contend with. One went inside, one tailed me, and the now disgusted anchor dude pulled up and left. On plane of course. It was "that" point everyone wanted to fish, and it seemed he didn't want to share. But I caught the fish! Quite satisfying and my motive wasn't revenge, just fishing.

Jerks are jerks but we don't have to participate, and I wonder how our "bad" behavior effects kids who are often aboard ours and others boats.

OK, Mark, let me see if I have this straight.

You get pissed if someone "trolls in on you" when you're anchored and you snag their lures and throw them back at them. Then when you're trolling you get pissed if some poor soul decides to anchor in the very spot you and "the whole fleet" were planning to troll.

Do you hand out maps and books of instruction at the ramp telling people to stay away from these prime trolling spots? Gotta say you're sounding kind of ike a jerk yourself.

 

[mommicked]

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Its just simpler to cast near an approaching boat if theyre getting to close. the lakes I fish are not too crowded and theres really no reason for someone to crowd you, unless your killin them and they couldnt catch a fish If you threw it in their boat. then their just tryin to see what your doin to get them to bite!!if im followed for any length of time I fire up and leave for another spot down the lake.

 

[gonefishie]

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Nah..the disposal was fixed already. Thanks for your concern though. You guys out there in UT are so tough, just try not to have a brain aneurysm next time you're out on the water.

 

[LadyFish]

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It's sad to say but I think most all etiquettes have disappeared. It's a "me first" world and screw everyone else.

Truth is, the person fishing the spot first anywhere has the right to fish there and the everyone has to wait their turn. It's a first come, first serve basis.

It dosen't matter what body of water or location. Whether is an ocean or a river, the rule is the same.