1984 Starcraft 16ft Glutton for Punishment [Splashed July 2019]

[SHSU]

Ok, think I got it. Looks like I had to many pictures and it was knocking them out. Let me know if you still can't see them

 

[SHSU]

Starting to look at rub rails and think I found one that will fit... But not sure. Anyone have experience with replacing the rub rails on a SS16?

From my measurements Taco V12-4144 might work, but didn't know if anyone else had experience with it or had other suggestions.



The opening on the aluminum rail I have is right at or slightly under 7/8 of an inch.

I didn't save the old rub rail insert for reference.... :frusty:

Any advise/suggestions are appreciated

 

[SHSU]

Finally able to get back working on the boat. Had a medical issue that took me out for awhile and helps explains me being so tired over the last 6 months to a year. Still recovering but, have enough energy to work on the boat as long as I take it slow. Updates below

I had to modify one of the panels that I cut for the captain side panel supports. Since I will be installing a horn I have to shift it over, and didn't account for the size difference. Cut down the panel and routed it


Installed the panel (above) with 10 stainless steel snap head screws with 5200. I also decided to do some fairing with JB weld... Didn't think it through, but will be painting it all again anyways. Still haven't sanded it back in this picture.


The white 5200 had been bugging me on the front seat section and was able to use a little JB weld to dirty it up to match better with the Shark Vinyl

Before


After


Pulled out my scrap vinyl from when I used it on other parts of the boat. As you can see it was very wrinkled. I used an iron on the back side and they came out nice and flat.

Before


After


Outline and glued with contact cement. Decided not to use the 3M spray adhesive as it was falling off from earlier installs and was re-gluing with the contact cement. Seems to be working thus far


End Part 1

 

[SHSU]

Part 2 cont...

Installed the gunwales with temporary screws to shape the boat. The brought out the trim and matched up the holes where the original 3/16th rivets went through and used those holes. That way I wouldn't be having to drill out rivets I accidentally put in them when installing the trim.


Hard to see the rivets in this picture, but end piece by the transom. Did spacing every inch for the first 6 or so inches. Then went to every 2 inches. Followed what watterman did on his to make sure it wasn't going to come apart



Seems I coated with 5200 before riveting together


Cleaned Up. You can also see all the rivets that I had placed already waiting to pop them. Glad I had a Pneumatic Rivet gun.


Additional Pic. After poping the rivets you see, I backed out the screws and filled those with rivets as well. As Watermann provided in his guide, I used the 5/32 sized rivets for this. I had a couple 3/16 that I used in certain areas where I went through more than 2 pieces.


Here is the final trim up of the vinyl after the install of all the rivets.


Next steps:

Hopefully next weekend I will have the strength work on the boat again, will look at trying to get some trim installed and sanding of the fairing I did.

Until next time

​​​​​​​SHSU

 

[Watermann]

Looking good, from what I see she'll be one to stand the test of time :thumb:

 

[No-AH]

Stay healthy. Really sweet work done SH.....looks great. Nice progress, steady pace works best!
Some members here replaced there rub rails and had good results using webco brand I believe?

 

[SHSU]

Thanks All,
Feels good to get back out and work on the boat again.

No-AH ,
I will have to look at that. I found some simple 1 inch camper rub rail that I might try. Not sure how robust it is, but might be worth a shot for as cheap as it is.

SHSU

 

[oldrem]

http://wefcorubber.com/extrusions_marine_rub_rails.asp

Many have found theirs there

 

[astor]

on my 87 SS180 I used wefcorubber.com part number 0101G for the rubber insert. worked great and installed very easily.

 

[SHSU]

on my 87 SS180 I used wefcorubber.com part number 0101G for the rubber insert. worked great and installed very easily.

astor

That is exactly what I was looking for!!I just sent an e-mail off to them for pricing and dimensions. Would like to confirm dimensions before I pull the trigger.

SHSU

 

[astor]

I have a couple of feet left over
I can measure and send to you tonight

 

[astor]

1" across the bottom
3/8" tall
The "hump" is 3/4" at the widest and 5/8" at the top
hopefully that description makes sense. I know wefco won't send a sample piece, I think they build to order. But if you want a piece PM me your address and I can send the one in the picture in the mail to you

 

[SHSU]

1" across the bottom
3/8" tall
The "hump" is 3/4" at the widest and 5/8" at the top
hopefully that description makes sense. I know wefco won't send a sample piece, I think they build to order. But if you want a piece PM me your address and I can send the one in the picture in the mail to you

Much appreciate the offer. I e-mailed them and they responded within 2 hours with below info. It matches what you showed and my measurements for the channel make me feel comfortable to move forward.

"The part is 1 1/16" wide X 3/8" tall
$ 3.00 per foot plus shipping.
2 week delivery"

How difficult was it to insert into the channel? Any tricks you used or just pressed it in?

Thanks,

JN

 

[astor]

Was easy to install it is much more flexible than the original material
I used a tooth brush to clean the channel out
Had someone push while I pulled with vise grips
I used some dish soap to lube the channel

 

[oldrem]

I slipped one lip into the upper channel then pushed from below with a dull putty knife to pop it in. Took less than 30 minutes for 30ft

 

[Watermann]

Their RR insert is rubber rather than vinyl like the original and it does fit a bit looser.

 

[SHSU]

Thanks all,

I just put in my order with them for 36 ft of Wefco rub rail 0101G. I measured 34, but always good to have some wiggle room.


On another note, had a three day weekend so got to work quite a bit on the boat. As always, it takes a lot longer then what was planned to do somethings and didn't get as much done as I wanted, but still progress

Sanding of my fairing. I didn't take a direct picture of after yet, but you will see it in some of the other photos.


Prepping the rub rail rail for install. Used painters tape to try and make the clean up of 5200 easier.


Rub rail rail removed to show what will be covered with 5200


Finished after clean up. Used a complete 10 oz tube to do both sides, but worth it in my opinion. Wont have any water getting behind anything from the gunwales




Drilling holes for the Gem Lux cleats I bought, back durring a sale. You can see the jig I created to make drilling precise.


Epoxied the holes to prevent water intrusion


Area prepped with painters tape. I covered with tape first then inserted the cleat and cut around it. Clean up was a lot easier.


5200 squeeze out


Finished look. You can also see the bracket up from for the Nav light. I installed that with 4200 as I figured that might be replaced in the future if the light fails.

 

[SHSU]

Part 2 so I can continue to post pictures

I didn't realize until after i installed the consoles that the inner gunwale trim was also riveted between the edge and the consoles.... So i had to cut out the section would go between the two so it would fit


Only took one picture, but used my wire brush wheel to clean up all of the trim/rub rail rail prior to install


Had to cut out a small area on the U front Trim too to make it fit along the console as well


Screwing down of the front gunwale. I noticed that the front area when I bought the boat was bowed up and again when I did the install. I got some Stainless steel screws and screwed a bunch in to help distrubute the force across the whole board. I used such a long screw and so many because I was going into the plywood edge. You can also see the squeeze out from the 5200 I put in before screwing together.


Front Trim installed. 5200 and 3/16 rivets used as before





Been looking for T bolts for the windows, and realized I could make my own out of some extra 1/4 SS bolts I had. Made different lengths as I will have to shim some to get the windows level.



Bolts test fitted into the window


So that is what I got done this weekend. Have my welder swinging by tonight to look at the boat as well as figure out how to fabricate the front nose, two rear gunwales, and the transom cap.

Next steps is to continue to install windows and trim pieces. Will start doing electrical here shortly....

Until next time

SHSU

 

[oldrem]

Looks great. Nice progress!

 

[Watermann]

Lots going on right there! I do like those snazzy pop up cleats :thumb: