1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

By the way, I ended up winning that auction for those rollers - $27 for 6 of them! That is a heck of a deal when you consider that same set of Stoltz would have pushed the $200 mark!!! Maybe when I am rich and famous (never) I can go with those big $$$ rollers.

 

[fshngho]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

SCORE!!!! Whatta deal
Quick, what numbers should I play on the Va lottery?

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

New bilge drain installed tonight...

...one more item checked off the list!

 

[Triton II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

New bilge drain installed tonight...

...one more item checked off the list!

Hey Jas, nice work.

One question, how are you blocking off the bilge drain?

TII

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey Jas, nice work.

One question, how are you blocking off the bilge drain?

TII

Uh oh. Trick question? Sarcasm? Did I do something terribly wrong, don't yet know it, and you are easing me into my pain? Oh, man how do I answer.

Well, in that photo it's not yet blocked but I was planning to use a common rubber drain plug type deal.

Cool? Not cool?

 

[fshngho]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Wondering the same thing as T II, does the drain have the correct ID to fit a plug? It looks great Jas.
I must have missed it but was the original messed up?

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Wondering the same thing as T II, does the drain have the correct ID to fit a plug? It looks great Jas.
I must have missed it but was the original messed up?

Yah, it may look a little big in the photo there but I have a couple of drain plug asittin right hear that fit like a glove.

Well, the original was sitting kinda high and off to the right, check it out...

Sitting where it was/is there was a fair amount of water remaining once it drained, yah know.

The new one in now nice and low to drain all but the last little bit, eh!

My plan for the old one (at this point anyway) will be a fill for the livewell.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Nice work there, it's nice to have two bilge drains, so even if you don't use it for the livewell fill I like the idea of adding another.

At first I was perplexed as to why the factory drain is mounted so high, and I like the lower location for the new one.

Here is the upside to the higher one-- if you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to get water out of the boat(bad leak or waves) you can hit WOT and pull that higher plug, allowing the water to flow out into Saginaw Bay where it belongs.

The lower drain might be too low to use this tactic, that's why I say I like the idea of having both, one to pull while the bow is up at the launch to drain any splash/rainwater/spilled Faygo Red Pop and one for ^^ the other scenario.

Is that some 4200 I see around the drain?

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Nice work there, it's nice to have two bilge drains, so even if you don't use it for the livewell fill I like the idea of adding another.

At first I was perplexed as to why the factory drain is mounted so high, and I like the lower location for the new one.

Here is the upside to the higher one-- if you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to get water out of the boat(bad leak or waves) you can hit WOT and pull that higher plug, allowing the water to flow out into Saginaw Bay where it belongs.

The lower drain might be too low to use this tactic, that's why I say I like the idea of having both, one to pull while the bow is up at the launch to drain any splash/rainwater/spilled Faygo Red Pop and one for ^^ the other scenario.

Is that some 4200 I see around the drain?

Hadn't thought about that stuff HA, dude your noodle is really working this morning!

Yah, that'd be 4200 there. Am I ok?

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hadn't thought about that stuff HA, dude your noodle is really working this morning!

Yah, that'd be 4200 there. Am I ok?

Ya 4200 is fine, I'd have used 5200 and regretted it if it ever needed to be replaced

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Ya 4200 is fine, I'd have used 5200 and regretted it if it ever needed to be replaced

Yah, I went with the 4200 as I didn't have any 5200 on hand. The 4200 is labeled as semi permanent and good for above/below waterline so I am thinking that I am good to go.

The other thing on this 3M 4200/5200 stuff is that it doesn't seem to last very long in the tube once the seal is cracked. It gets to be pretty expensive adhesive when you squirt a little bit out for a through hull and then it locks up before you can find another job to use it on, eh.

Rock on!

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Yah, I went with the 4200 as I didn't have any 5200 on hand. The 4200 is labeled as semi permanent and good for above/below waterline so I am thinking that I am good to go.

The other thing on this 3M 4200/5200 stuff is that it doesn't seem to last very long in the tube once the seal is cracked. It gets to be pretty expensive adhesive when you squirt a little bit out for a through hull and then it locks up before you can find another job to use it on, eh.

Rock on!

One trick I learned and others have attested to is to take a nail and poke it into a used tube of 5200 and voila...it still works

I get at least 2-3 weeks of use out of a tube, if not more. The stuff deep inside the tube that is not exposed to air is like new still even though the skinny nozzle gets totally blocked.

Good for boat restorers on a budget(aren't we all).

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

yah, my last tube actually blew out the bottom and I had it all over my hands - smeered it where it needed to be and all is well in the world!

Poke a nail through, great tip!

 

[Triton II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hi Jas,

No I didn't mean to be sarcastic or ask trick questions, so if it sounded like that, I apologise. Here in Aus we use those type of through hulls for live wells and anchor well drains. For bilges we generally use these:

http://www.tenob.co.nz/shop/Hull+Fi...Nylon+Plugs/Large+White+Drain+Plug++Base.html

The plug is fitted with a keeper so you can trailer the boat "bungs out" yet the bung is always there in the base hanging by its keeper to remind you to fit it. Another advantage is the plugs semi seat themselves in the base even if you don't screw them in (don't ask me how I know this) slowing down water entry. Also, once they're screwed in they're really secure, keeping water in as well as out - and you can buy spares... just in case.

Having said all that, what you've fitted will be fine and it looks GOOD!

TII

 

[CheapboatKev]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Thats a cool plug T to the 3rd!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

That is a sweet plug TII!

Yah, I suppose I simply went with what I know, ya know? Some sort of through hull along with one of these...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...toreNum=10106&subdeptNum=10464&classNum=10467

I should have done a little more research on em first as I really like that drain you have there! Now that I have looked they sell them around here too. Ah, well.

I am certainly learning as I go and making mistakes along the way. I am glad you posted up as I am sure somebody with a little more due diligence can take advantage of your sweet idea.

Rock on!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

By the way TII...

I appreciate trick questions and welcome sarcasm! Helps keep me on my toes, eh!

 

[jspano]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

just a note my 5200 the plastic cone screws off and i clean that out after use. than i plug it. when i use it next i unscrew the tip and squeeze out the first pc that skins up. i have tubes last over a month or more.

nice job on the drain jas.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Thanks Joe!!


OK, well, based on another fellas thread on flotation and NB's perceptive nature I might be re thinking using plastic bottles based on the cold weather that hangs around the middle of MI a good part of the year. I really don't know why I hadn't thought of that before??? Maybe because I am a big dumb head??

So, anybody willing to have a flotation discussion as it relates to containers? Might be worth kicking around a little, eh?

My plan was to use a combination of noodles and bottles. Heavier stuff like laundry soap bottles, that sort of thing. I am certainly not bent on the idea and could just as quick abandon containers for all noodles. Really, the only thing that is off the table, for me anyway, is pour in foam.

Thoughts?

(I have a feeling that my recycling guy is going to hate me the next time he comes to my house)

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I guess you should have been stock-piling noodles all summer when you found them cheap. I don't think you'll get any different suggestions than noodles or foam board.