1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

[ezmobee]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

While I do really like the quad bunk setup idea, they aren't anywhere near high enough. Check out mine http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/New Boat/DSCF2355.jpg (by the way, those ended up being pretty much dead on correct when I put the boat on it due to how awesome I am ) Your boat probably has more deadrise than mine. I would probably throw some low mounted keel rollers on there.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

While I do really like the quad bunk setup idea, they aren't anywhere near high enough. Check out mine http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/New Boat/DSCF2355.jpg (by the way, those ended up being pretty much dead on correct when I put the boat on it due to how awesome I am ) Your boat probably has more deadrise than mine. I would probably throw some low mounted keel rollers on there.

Dude you are awesome!!! Super humble too!

Yah, the more I think on it the more appealing rollers are down the middle. Flipping those brackets to the other side of the beams seems so obvious too. I don't know why I didn't think of that earlier!

But you guys have to help me out...

What is the best patch/repair material to use for my keel, eh????

I know photos would help, I'll have em up later fellas.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

The trailer is looking very nice, you are doing some good work there.

Would putting the bunks at a bit of an inward angle as they approach the bow help keep the boat sitting high enough?

I did that on two trailers for my 12 footer and it worked out pretty well. If they are exactly perpendicular to the axles then the bow will sit lower, potentially bumping the cross beam as mentioned.

Maybe after some repair work on the keel one of these would help protect it?(I'm waiting for pictures of the damage before offering any advice there).

 

[Triton II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Jas, have you thought about wobble rollers either side of the keel and bunks near the chines? I'm not sure if Starcraft Cult Members would recommend this as I don't know how strong the areas just outboard of the keel itself are - as I said, just a thought which could allow you to not worry too much about damage to the keel.

TII

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

OK fellas, good news sorta. I think I'll call a false alarm on that keel damage. I really hadn't taken a up close look at it until now and it's not quite as bad as I thought. It's not great but not real bad either. There are some bends and dents but no real breaks or openings so I am pretty happy about that!

I have the rig up in the air right now and am thinking that I'll probably go right back to the original set up, outside bunks plus rollers. The exceptions will be that I will probably add one extra bracket to each side (4 instead of 3) for some additional support and I'll flip the roller brackets over to the other side of the cross beam so the keel wont be resting on the bad spots.

I have put the kiddos to bed duty, then I'll play with it just a little more to be sure that is the route I'll take.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I have some creases in my keel also. No harm no foul.

 

[Triton II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

OK fellas, good news sorta. I think I'll call a false alarm on that keel damage. I really hadn't taken a up close look at it until now and it's not quite as bad as I thought.

Excellent news!

I have put the kiddos to bed duty...

Oh no, not the dreaded "read us another one Dad!!!" Good luck...

TII

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

OK, here is how things shook out...

Keel damage. First up the entire keel is sort of flat on top from being dragged over bare roller shafts...

Here is the worst spot, right about mid hull. No breaks or cracks thankfully but dented in fairly bad...

Another spot...

And the last...

Overall I'm not sweating it. I think I'll just run the sander over the sharp/rough spots to smooth them out. I might just leave that bad spot be. Or, maybe some alumaweld/JB sort of fix to build it up a little? What do you dudes think?

Anyway, I am feeling pretty good going back to rollers. She's not so bad there.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

OK, so here was the lift and set down process - no major crash and burn which was great!

I drilled a couple of holes in my homemade LVL (my workshop is above there) and girth hitched a pair of rock climbing slings on each side. I then hooked up the Keeper Strap...

I then emptied all the stuff out of the boat, started lifting, and here is how she ended up...

You can see that little mushroom anchor there on the gunwale - I actually balanced her out to the point where I could just slide that little anchor for/aft on the gunwale to bring the bow up/down and level her out. I thought that was cool, eh!

Lined up the trailer...

And wheeled er under...

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I then went to work removing the inner brackets and fine tuning the outers...

By nights end she was sitting down on a pair of temporary 4x4s...

She is sitting higher than I would really like her to on those 4x4s and I have a little room to spare before the keel gets too close to the cross beams so I may go with a pair of stacked decking boards which would be 2" thick vs. 3.5". I could go with a standard 2x4 but then I start getting really close to the fenders. I could pull the fenders off and re-drill the bolt holes so they sit lower and in turn the rig can sit lower. They are sitting way high anyway...

I may have to stew on that for a little bit to figure what would be best.

All in all not a bad night.

Cheers guys!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Looks good. What a great way to size things up. My vote would be for the stacked decking boards. 4x4's for a tinny on a trailer is kinda ridiculous.

 

[fshngho]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I agree with EZ. I would re locate the fenders too. Lowere center of gravity for towing and easier to launch. Looking good
As far as the keel, you could get a piece of metal broken to fit over the keel and pop rivet it in place. Its not sealed and I don't see where it would hurt anything.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Nice work hoisting the big hull, looks like a good way to do it.

I'm in favor of lowering the fenders if it means the boat will sit lower. Many advantages to that. I've been happy with how low my boat sits on the trailer and it makes it very easy to launch/retrieve.

Keep up the good work, it's gonna get cold soon!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Looks good. What a great way to size things up. My vote would be for the stacked decking boards. 4x4's for a tinny on a trailer is kinda ridiculous.

Thanks man!

I agree with EZ. I would re locate the fenders too. Lowere center of gravity for towing and easier to launch. Looking good
As far as the keel, you could get a piece of metal broken to fit over the keel and pop rivet it in place. Its not sealed and I don't see where it would hurt anything.

Yah, the more I think about it the more I want to pull those off, re-drill, and lower. It's a bunch of extra work but I am doing long term fixes here.

New alum riveted in place, not a bad idea there. Didn't think of that, hmmmm.

Nice work hoisting the big hull, looks like a good way to do it.

I'm in favor of lowering the fenders if it means the boat will sit lower. Many advantages to that. I've been happy with how low my boat sits on the trailer and it makes it very easy to launch/retrieve.

Keep up the good work, it's gonna get cold soon!

Yah, I hate the rig sitting higher than it really needs to. I'll need to put in some extra work but now is the time to get it done right, eh!

60's this week, man I love it!!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

When I walked out to the scrap wood pile to grab those 4x4's here is what the big girl looked like in the garage. Though it was kinda a cool shot...

I am thinking that only old aluminum backyard boat builder type weirdos might appreciate photos like this, eh!

 

[Triton II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I am thinking that only old aluminum backyard boat builder type weirdos might appreciate photos like this, eh!

No way Jas, even buyers of new, factory built aluminium boats appreciate shots like that!

Good job on slinging the old girl! Seriously, I think you're going to have to smooth those ripples in her mid keel area if you use keel rollers... if you can somehow get away without keel rollers then no worries...

TII

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Jason the rig looks more like a UFO than a I/O powered Starcraft in those pics

Nice work, I can't believe how much you are able to do mechanically by yourself, it saves you from buying beer for guys to help lift things up

BTW if you need some help let me know, 2 Labatt's per hour is my off-season rate

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

No way Jas, even buyers of new, factory built aluminium boats appreciate shots like that!

Good job on slinging the old girl! Seriously, I think you're going to have to smooth those ripples in her mid keel area if you use keel rollers... if you can somehow get away without keel rollers then no worries...

TII

Thanks Bro! Yah, I think I can work on that keel some to make it reasonable.

Jason the rig looks more like a UFO than a I/O powered Starcraft in those pics

Nice work, I can't believe how much you are able to do mechanically by yourself, it saves you from buying beer for guys to help lift things up

BTW if you need some help let me know, 2 Labatt's per hour is my off-season rate

Yah, all out of necessity man. Just have to be creative sometimes ya know!

Buddy, you make your way up here and I'm throwing big ol burgers on the grill to go with those brews!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

All right, we'll run this post good news bad news style...

Good news is after picking up and setting down the Islander probably a dozen times and tweeking the bunk brackets just as much, they are set.

Bad news is the fenders will need to stay where they are at as there there wasn't anything I could hook them to once I lowered them.

Good news is that I figured that out before I took them all off and actually started drilling!

Bad news is I couldn't lower the rig as much as I'd like as the keel was starting to get uncomfortably close to the cross beams.

Good news is I still lowered it by about 2" from last night.

Bad news is I am now looking at having to pick up 5 new rollers and shafts at almost $200 if I want Stoltz. Ouch!

Good news is that I already have the roller brackets and they are in good shape, just need paint.

More good news is that I now have 6 extra bunk brackets, huh I wonder what I could do with those? Seems like that might be the perfect number for a trailer that might hold a vessel 16' in length

Bad news is that it's taking me longer to get this part wrapped up than I thought.

Good news is that I am still moving forward, eh!

Cheers!

 

[Triton II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Good news is that I am still moving forward, eh!

Cheers!

Great news!

TII