1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

HopeSheFloats

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Awesome Jas, not too often a trailer's paint job catch's my eye, but the fenders color sure look great against that white...kudos on a job well done!!!
 

fat fanny

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J you may not get allot done in one day but all those days add up a little bit each day and she'll be in the water in no time! great job. You truly are a patient man and that I know will lead to a great rig in the end. Just a thought you may want to consider though if you stand on the roof of you garage and look at your boat for a while like NB maybe time will move faster and more ideas will flow of the final picture of the boat! I just thought that was funny when NB did that what ever it takes to get it done!
 

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Thanks guys! The lot of ya are way too nice though. I know my flaws will make their way out in the form of rust someday. Hopefully I can have a few years of peace before that happens. When it does start to creep out I can hit it, couple of quick coats of paint over the whole trailer, and relax for another few years. I think with a little prevention I shouldn't have to go that distance again, whew!

Thanks again fellas, HAPPY SUNDAY!
 

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if you need more practice i have one i can let you work on.. lol.
 

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Yeah Jason we are being nice. We are being honest too. Take the attaboy's, you deserve them.;)
 

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Yeah Jason we are being nice. We are being honest too. Take the attaboy's, you deserve them.;)

Hey Jas, don't be embarrassed by the praise - as fshngho says, you deserve it. As my kids would say, that trailer looks "way cool" . Nice job mate! :D

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if you need more practice i have one i can let you work on.. lol.

Gosh, I sure appreciate the offer stic! Man as much as fun as that sounds I'd hate to rob you of all the fun!

Yeah Jason we are being nice. We are being honest too. Take the attaboy's, you deserve them.;)

Hey Jas, don't be embarrassed by the praise - as fshngho says, you deserve it. As my kids would say, that trailer looks "way cool" . Nice job mate! :D

TII

Thanks fellas! The think the whole lot of ya are real gents! However, I would never admit it out loud and would quickly deny that I ever said so if anybody asked:D

I fully suspect that the favor would be returned too!
 

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I accomplished a little today.

I bolted on the heavy duty safety chains (CBK chains)...
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Also got all of the bunk brackets on...
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I am pretty sure I'll add one roller on that front most cross beam. That shabby weld strap was from the previous owner. I just decided to leave it.

I just put those bunk bracets on finger tight. My "plan" is to slowly/barely/gently set the boat on them, make the necessary adjustments, lock them down, pick up the boat, pull out the trailer and mount the bunks. Well that's my "plan" anyway.
 

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Jas...Thats where my chains went!!!! :eek:
I tell you..Stuff like that, you guys seeing my really embarassing moment on here, all the razzing and jokes..Worth it when those pics pop into somebody's head and they make sure it doesnt happen to them!
 

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And on the trailer plan..
Wouldnt any weight at all move the brackets? I do mine with the boat on and with a rolling floor jack to lift the brackets up to the hull..Not fun but works for me..

You may be 100 percent right, just tossing out what I did..
 

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Yah buddy. If my coupler fails and my chains fail, I think I may have way more problems than just my connection to my boat trailer:eek::eek:

Yah, you have some good thinking using the trailer jack but on my brackets I have big ol notches. So basically, I'll need to loosen the bolts and move up/down to get them right rather than push them up into place with a jack. I am planning on just barely lowering the hull into place only to the point where it's just hardly pushing on them to get them lined up correctly. No real weight though. All just theory at this point my friend! I'll prolly scrap the whole idea when she is up in the air!:eek:

Thanks for weighing in partner!

Cheers!
 

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Jason, I know you already know this but you since these boats have a really severe V you're gonna need to put some keel rollers down the center and those bunk rails are gonna be really high, especially the outside ones.
 

jasoutside

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Jason, I know you already know this but you since these boats have a really severe V you're gonna need to put some keel rollers down the center and those bunk rails are gonna be really high, especially the outside ones.

Well truth be told, I was hoping to avoid keel rollers (save one or maybe two at the bow). My keel has some damage from the previous owner loading that boat on bare roller shafts. I am a bit afraid that once I repair the keel and then roll it across new rollers I may end up breaking/cracking any repair work that I have done.

If I have to put rollers on than no sweat, I'll do what needs to be done to make it right. I'm thinking I'll give these double bunks a test fit to see if they work. If it's a no go than I'll pull off the inner ones, save them for my "next" project and add rollers the whole distance.

For rollers, Kev's jack method goes into effect!

If my thinking is way off and I'm being a big dummy feel free to say so!
 

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No dude, you're right. You can go without rollers but you have to adjust the bunks even higher.
 

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Jas, forgive me if this a dumb question that you've already answered. What kind of bunks are you planning - carpet on wood or blue plastic strips on metal? Without keel rollers you'll need reasonably "slippery" bunks or you'll have to float her off and on, if so maybe a tongue extension is in order to save the rear end of your tow vehicle getting aquainted with the wet stuff? Just asking out of curiosity! :?

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Jas, forgive me if this a dumb question that you've already answered. What kind of bunks are you planning - carpet on wood or blue plastic strips on metal? Without keel rollers you'll need reasonably "slippery" bunks or you'll have to float her off and on, if so maybe a tongue extension is in order to save the rear end of your tow vehicle getting aquainted with the wet stuff? Just asking out of curiosity! :?

TII

Nope, I actually haven't even shopped around yet for that rigging so I am wide open to suggestions.

My plan is wood/carpet bunks. This here rig will be floated on and off. I did forget to mention that I'll be adding guide on bunks too. If you guys have a good money saving suggestion for those I am all ears!

All of the launches that I'd want to run this boat out of are actually pretty nice with good depth. That trailer tongue has some good length to it plus I am driving the 3/4 ton Burb which gives me even a bit more length and she sits pretty high too. For my rear brakes to get wet that boat is going to be a long way out. My minds eye tells me that the outer bunks will be completely submerged while the inner bunks may have the last one or two feet out of the water (that's what, 1/3 - 2/3 of a meter for your neck of the woods, eh bro). Or, entirely submerged as the case may be.

After a little more eyeballing, like my buddy NB is saying, the height I'd need to get to with the fore most bunk brackets might be an issue. I may not have enough bracket to get high enough there. So, if I scrap those I'll end up having two rollers for the two front cross beams. And if that ends up happening then I should have one, maybe two, rollers out of the water when launching/landing.

We'll sure know a lot more once I get this rig up in the air and the trailer underneath her, eh!

Sorry guys, long post, sort of thinking out loud here.:D
 

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Jas, you have me thinking too early this morning.:p
Ok let me 'splain' my thoughts. if I visualize the trailer on the boat ramp at an angle, I see the front keel of the boat possibly hitting the trailer before it starts up on the bunks. I don't think sliding on/off the bunks is an issue. I worry about the bow area being smaller in width, which means the bunks won't raise it up enough to avoid the trailer, therefore hitting it without rollers at least towards the front. Am I making any sense?
 

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Jas, you have me thinking too early this morning.:p
Ok let me 'splain' my thoughts. if I visualize the trailer on the boat ramp at an angle, I see the front keel of the boat possibly hitting the trailer before it starts up on the bunks. I don't think sliding on/off the bunks is an issue. I worry about the bow area being smaller in width, which means the bunks won't raise it up enough to avoid the trailer, therefore hitting it without rollers at least towards the front. Am I making any sense?

Nope fsh, you are making perfect sense despite the time of day my friend!

I was thinking a bunch about that too and may have to scrap the double bunk idea because of of that issue.

I would really rather go rollers down the middle there but like I mentioned, I have damage on the keel and am thinking that the stress on it may crack any repair I might make.

You know what I really need to do is take some photos of the keel and maybe you guys could help me think through making a super bomber/breakproof/noncrackable repair, eh! JB, alumaweld, marine tex, all metal....????

Yah, lets do that!:D

Photos later...
 

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Other solutions...

I could move the inner bunks closer to the center so the "V" couldn't slip through and bump the cross beams????

Or...

I could scrap the inner bunk idea, take my roller brackets and mount them on the OPPOSITE side of the cross beam than they were originally. That way the damaged areas wouldn't actually be resting on the rollers. And, I suppose when loading/rolling on up the vast majority of the weight would still be floating so that is ok too.

Hmmmmmm, maybe that is the ticket??!:D Whatdoya think??
 
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