1974 Ebbtide Restoration - SPLASHED

[zool]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

I'm very familiar with Ft. Worths weather soooo, tell the Admiral that if Al Gores Global Warming continues to be like it has been the last couple of weeks...You're NOT gunna make it. All the Glass work and other stuff is gunna take a while. If you can work 4 Hours every night and 16 hours every weekend Starting In March when the weather stabilizes and warms a bit, well you MIGHT make it.

haha yea, I still cringe when I see my 2 year estimate:

 

[mercurymang]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

So you guys think I can't get this done by summer?

 

[jbcurt00]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

I think their saying it's going to be tough to GUARANTEE you'll be done BY summer, partially because you haven't finished the demo & started the grinding yet. And you're considering gelcoat.

Done over the summer, probably if you're to the finishing stages, and not trying to grind or lay glass when it's oppressively hot & humid out.

Most take MUCH longer then expected.

 

[zool]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

That burdon lies on you....with my schedule, environment, and budget...not a chance...a pro shop could, because they have to for economic reasons...if you have the temps to finish the glass, and use paint..maybe

 

[mercurymang]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

Ok. Well then the gel coat is out. It will just have to be a touch up job. My goal is to have the cap by off by Sunday. We'll see if I can make that goal.
Worse comes to worse, I'll borrow my brother in laws boat for the summer... but I'm still gonna try to make it.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

Have a goal, that's good

Beating yourself half to death trying to keep the goal's schedule, not so good. For you, the Admiral or the boat......

Cut the project down into manageable small chunks. Like you have planned for the de-cap by Sun. That's a pretty good time frame. A day or so to firmly get a handle on how to proceed & what you'll need to get it done. By Sat afternoon, early evening, having the cap free, or mostly free is a good place to start. Having the cap off, well supported, protected & covered on some sawhorses by Sun afternoon/evening is then possible, no problem. And probably leaves a bit of time to ensure the hull's staying where you want it on a cradle or braced on the trailer and not moving around while you're crawling in & out. W/ some cross ties or braces to keep the hull sides where they're supposed to be as well.

 

[mercurymang]

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Thank you JB. I do tend to stress about these things. If I knew it would take that long, I probably would have put it off until after the season. It will keep me awake at night but in the end, I think I can get it done.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

Then the 1st order of business is to break out that new multitool & ventilate the hull once or twice to go ahead & get it out of the way. If you have kids, this is an excellent time to start a vacation fund swear jar just for dad. By father's day you might be able to afford that nice Hawaiian vacation the Admiral has always wanted. Educational for the kids & fun for the whole family.....





It happens, to almost everyone, some significantly worse then others. Means you're officially a back yard boat builder. Until you cut a nice sized unplanned slice thru the hull, it's not official. :watermelon:

When you do, and you will, please try to avoid doing it directly over a below deck fuel tank. That'll flat ruin your day..........:flame: Even w/ out the fireworks

 

[Woodonglass]

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How many hours per week do you REALLY think you can dedicated to your boat project. And still keep the Admiral Happy and keep up with all the OTHER LIFE issues the WILL occur???? I believe you have a minimum of 200 hours of work to complete your project. That's 5 full 40 hour weeks.

 

[mercurymang]

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Ya, I'm thinking I can put in between 15 and 25 hours per week depending on what's going on. Right now what's hurting me is that I don't have an enclosure. If I had a garage door in my shop it would not be an issue. Something tells me I may have to build a relatively airtight enclosure that I can heat so I can glass when it's cold.
Maybe i'll do that after the demo.

 

[mercurymang]

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I have a stringer bedding question. Another guy just posted a question regarding stringer bedding and JB had great response but I reminded me of a question I have. Let's say you are bedding a stringer. You plop down the peanut butter on the hull and install your stringer. Do you come back immediately and filet the joint at the hull or do you wait for that to cure and then filet it. I'm thinking you would want to do that right away but I'm not sure and I figured I would ask the question.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Do you come back immediately and filet the joint at the hull or do you wait for that to cure and then filet it. I'm thinking you would want to do that right away but I'm not sure and I figured I would ask the question.

Yep, any excess PB or squeeze out is immediately run down w/ an acetone dipped metal spoon to make the fillet. Use a zip lock bag w/ the corner cut off as a pastry bag & run a fat bead under the stringer (you'll want a 1/4"+/- gap under the stringer).

15-45min later you can pull the stringer supports (if hung from above), any 1/4" shims used to hold the stringer up off the deck and infill any missing bedding or filleting w/ another batch of PB. 15-45min later you could actually start laying up the hull/stringer tabbing.

Use the same 'plan' on the transom install. Good coverage on both the fiberglass transom skin & the back of the transom, apply good, even pressure w/ the WOG transom clamps. Any squeeze out can be smoothed before it cures w/ the same metal spoon dipped in acetone. 15-45min later, you can pull the clamps & infill any missing fillet.

 

[mercurymang]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

Thanks JB.

Ok, just got back from Lowes where I dropped about $200 on this stuff:

Let the demo begin.

 

[Daniel1947]

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I am going to follow along, looks like you have the usual experts following you and you are asking good questions. I have read through a lot of threads, and so far you are really getting good info from WOG, jbcurt and zool, as well as many others. Good luck but the only advice I will offer at this time is find a Harbor Freight or Northern Tool for your grinders....the dust will probably burn up a good one almost as quick as a cheap one....lol.

 

[Daniel1947]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

OH, and get some dust masks...you don't want that fiberglass dust in your lungs.

 

[mercurymang]

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So it's a rainy, foggy (almost spooky) night here in North Texas. I actually love this weather but it's not very good for working on the boat. That being said, I have a tarp over it right now to keep the rain out. So I tied up the back of the tarp and now have a pretty good enclosure.

So I'm working on making some jigs I can use for measurements. I took some pics of the stringers and noticed how the floor at the console had moved up away from the strings by as much as 1/2". I'm thinking that would account for the gap in the windshield, but I'm not sure why that gap is there. Is it warped or is there something else that would cause this to happen. Take a look at these pics and see what you think.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

I suspect the plywood deck wasn't well fastened to the stringers, when the foam was poured into a hole in the deck, it expanded and lifted the plywood. Your pix looks like it's showing foam ABOVE the plane of the top of the stringers:

Back under the deck you haven't pulled yet. I doubt the gap at the windshield was there originally, so if the gap under deck was there originally, it didn't 'cause' the gap at the windshield..

 

[mercurymang]

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I've been at it all morning and I'm getting close to getting this cap off but I am hung up on making the cut where the cap and transom meet. Part of the problem is I'm not sure that need to replace my transom. I drilled some core samples and everything was dry, a little soft but dry, and in every other way the transom seems solid. I'm not sure that this matters except that if I'm going to keep the transom I want it keep it intact as much as possible. The problem I see with making the cut if I keep the transom is that I would be weakening it right where the upper motor support is attached.
I was trying to cleanly separate them but I don't think it's possible due to the depth of the splash well.
Any advice would be appreciated.

thanks

 

[mercurymang]

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Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

Well, while I was trying to separate the cap from the hull from inside, I was poking around with the screwdriver and found this:

With that said, I'll be replacing the transom so the previous questions are moot. So I got the sawzall and started cutting per the instruction JB gave me. My splashwell is pretty deep and my current blade is not long enough to get all the way down there. I'm going to have to go get a longer blade (hopefully I can find one that long). Here's what I have so far.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

Re: 1974 Ebbtide Restoration

Yep a longer blade is all that's required. HF has em.