1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

barato2

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like sharks to the scent of blood in the water, noses perk up around here at the thought of seeing another glasser meet the guy with the scythe :D
 

dozerII

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Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

Hey CC empty your PM, it's full.
 

crankbait cowboy

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IMG_0229.jpgIMG_0230.jpg pretty quiet weekend, still winter here. i did get the consoles cut, and got a lay out planned. any thoughts or insite would be greatly appreciated. thinking glove box and round stereo reciever on port side and on the starboard side the dotted line is steering bezel with tach on left and volt below fuel gauge on right and a switch panel out to right. good , bad , ugly, issues to be concerned with? thanks
 

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Depending on if you are using a rack and pinion or rotary set up, you may have to move the helm slightly to the right with a R/P. Other than that looks like a nice layout.
 

crankbait cowboy

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good point dozer. i marked this from the rotary set up it came with, but got a rack and pinon off the donor, that i could use. i am assuming rack and pinon would be a little smoother? my steering bezel is about as big as i would go, maybe smaller. gonna have to see how the rack and pinon fits with this layout, and if gauge layout will interfere with it. you think r/p is better than rotary? thats why i put this out there, for solid input from you all. thanks
 

low277

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I have never used a rotary style, but I changed out my old rack and pinion for a new one with the no feed back feature, the no feed back feature is just that, very little feel of the motors torque and if you let go of the wheel it stays right where you left it, it almost feels like there is a detent ( not sure if this is correct term )to overcome when you try to move it again.

It works good, just feels different.
 

dozerII

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good point dozer. i marked this from the rotary set up it came with, but got a rack and pinon off the donor, that i could use. i am assuming rack and pinon would be a little smoother? my steering bezel is about as big as i would go, maybe smaller. gonna have to see how the rack and pinon fits with this layout, and if gauge layout will interfere with it. you think r/p is better than rotary? thats why i put this out there, for solid input from you all. thanks

I have always used Rack and pinion, and put a NFB rotary in the Holiday, so far I am not impressed with it, I'm wishing I would have gone R/P.
 

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IMG_0805.jpgIMG_0839.jpgIMG_1107.jpg real slow progress and cold here. i keep going over what i could be doing but, i kinda got a plan and want to take it one step at a time, and in order so i do not have to back track. it is hard , especially watching the progress you all are making. 6 degrees here this a.m. and have got nothing done on the tinner for a week and next month, hope to be busy at work. so just been dreaming about soft water and pulling some of the crankbaits that i have been custom painting. my next step is to get the hull prepped and painted, and tough to do in this weather, as i do not have a hanger for er. probably not all bad, as from what i have heard ol murph woke up and has been making the rounds. let me know if one of you get him bottled up, so i don't have to worry. i still plan to get this tinner done, would like to get it prepped and painted, flipped, and foam, fuel tank and floor in this summer, working around earning a paycheck and relaxing on the lake, and then get after it next winter. as always, thanks for all the insite and help, and good luck on your projects.
 
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jvanhees

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some nice cranks and wallys ya got there!
 

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Some good looking cranks ya got there. The purples work real well in our area over here, especially Saginaw Bay for gators.
 

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Oh man now I'm hungry! Nice eyes, can't wait to tear into some here.
 

crankbait cowboy

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still dreaming here. and surfing your projects for insite and ideas. did dump the glasser and did a few small repairs on its trailer. may have the trailer sold (will know by end of weekend) if the guy gives me the 300 bucks i want , i will have scored the 115 johnny for zip. altho haven't got er running yet either. if i got to start over looking for a different power source, at least i did not thro money away, on my first try. just time and effort so far. cold here low 30s at night and 45 for next few days. 5 inches snow last night 20 miles east of here. hope to get some tinner work done in may and get some progress updates and pics for you all. good luck on your projects.
 

SigSaurP229

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As long as the johnny has compression u can pretty much have her in tip top running shape for less than $500 you wont lose
 

crankbait cowboy

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IMG_0145.jpgIMG_0146.jpg HELP! so time to prep for paint and i am torn. strip and polish / strip and paint / sand ( not to bare aluminum for most part and paint) transom is a lot of jb weld so polish seems out for that , blue bottom is poor couple of coats ,and chalky, and actually rubs off on hands when wet. white sides are in really good shape with exception of some chips from rocks on front. really want to paint but not sure if sanding ( and if so start 120/180 to 220??) or stripping and vinegar wash and se primer on whole boat instead of touch up is way to go. i prefer paint over polishing, so could i strip bottom and sand white sides and prime accordingly ( se on any bare aluminum). looks to be a bit of a pita sanding all those rivets, and stripping seems pretty intensive.really looking for some input from you all, and i realize not all may agree, but discussion is good ( at least for me ) as i am really looking for some detailed ideas and experiences from you who have gone before me, and could be helpful for others in my position. thanks for an advice, thoughts, input, ideas ahead of time. thoughts?
 

SigSaurP229

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Here is my opinion only.

If the factory paint is still adhered scuff and paint. Polished hulls are extremely pretty I think they look awesome but I don't want the maintenance of polishing them every year to keep em looking that way, if I wanted all that work I would've bought a glasser.

You may wanna just look into having the whole hull soda blasted, I really considered it for the 16' if the factory paint had lost adhesion its exactly what I was going to do. Sanding the rivets is really no big deal.

If the paint is still adhered scuff and paint.

If all that junk is coming off on the bottom I would call a local sandblasting guy and have him tell you how much. I got quotes as low as $150.00 WELL worth it if you have to go all the way to bare aluminum you will spend $50 just in stripper not to mention hours and hours of stripping paint.

I don't think you will be able to just strip the bottom that stripper is going to get everywhere. You can try to sand through it on just the bottom I would start at about a 160 grit.
 
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barato2

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agree with Sig----scuff clean n shoot.

for working around rivet heads, get a 3-pack of the small SS wire brushes (just bigger than a toothbrush), DON'T take them out of the pack but use em as a unit....this cleans around rivets heads nicely and fast w/o leaving scratches or taking all paint off.
 

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well we got a week off rain here so tonight i tinkered with engine abit. i bought a cheap spark tester from autozone, and tested spark on all 4 cyl. happy to say i got good strong ,blue spark on all cylinders. now it went a bit south on me and i am a bit befuddled. last dec in 20 below, and poor cranking conditions i got 95 psi compression on 3 of 4 cylinders and 85 on the other. felt like they would get better in warmer temps. well tonight i tried again using same proceedure. carbs wide open, well charged battery and carbs and holes have had some fog oil in them. the part that befuddles me is tonight i get 75 psi on 3 and 50 psi on the other. seems to be cranking good , but cables are poor and maybe not cranking as fast as should. any ideas as to why those compression numbers would fall like that. granted engine is not warm ( running temp)and cables may be poor but all is same as last december in colder conditions.why did they fall off, and 50 to 75 if accurate can't be good can it? may have had a bit of a setback here. any ideas, or input would be greatly appreciated as always. thanks (ps gonna post same question in outboard forumn, but value all your thoughts )
 

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You could be faced with a weak motor with those low compression numbers or maybe the oil in the cylinders drained off and there wasn't enough oil coating the walls. I would drag her out, shoot some fogging oil in it and try to fire her up to run a bit before doing another test when it's warm. Or shoot the oil in the plug holes while turning it over to coat them good and see if that helps.
 
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SigSaurP229

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Thats on low side of compression numbers. I would start by testing it with a different gauge, then shoot some fogging oil in it to lube the cylinders, and retest it. You really want to see at minimum I would think 85 to 90 minimum on that motor.

If you can I would fire it up, get it good and warm and do a decarb on it then retest the numbers.
 
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