1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Shoulda used the stripper pole. Slides right off. IM - I don't think paint removal is ever easy. Although Huron Angler used the environment friendly stuff on his tinny and seemed to have an easier time. It was the original paint without any re-paints which might make a difference.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

If anyone has a better technique... don't be shy!!!

See if the neighbor kid will do it for you in return for a $5 Hot N Ready Pizza. Worth a shot

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Hey IM, didn't have that problem at all with the Marhyde stripper, she peeled right down:facepalm: The Marhyde we put on real thick and let it sit till you could see blisters in the paint then the scrappers would just roll the paint off.
Glen

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Hey guys,

Thanks for the thoughts... I think I will just press forward. When this tin is done I'll try the mar Hyde which now avail. Only in a quart size. Ga - stripper pole might be problematic with Mrs motion... just sayin' here! Pizza options jas- that may have some merit... but kids these days will likely want an iPod...:facepalm: dii - ya that's what I expected from this stuff... original paint only on this boat too... hmmmmm. Giving another go right now. We'll see.

 

[rheagler]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

I don't remember where I saw it, but I remember seeing somewhere that if you cover the stripper with plastic it slows down the evaporation so it can work longer to soften the paint.
Mine went pretty much as yours so far. 3 applications with the last one kind of a clean up with scotchbrite and stripper. On the sides and top I used a brass wire brush around the rivets. On the bottom I used a brass coated wire wheel in a drill.
Don't be afraid to experiment though, if one method is too slow, try another!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

I don't remember where I saw it, but I remember seeing somewhere that if you cover the stripper with plastic it slows down the evaporation so it can work longer to soften the paint.

I've seen or read that also. Definitely worth a try.

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Experimentation results with this stuff:

1. Use this product wet --- utterly useless dry!! I even left a thick coat on over night under the can... notta. Nothing.
2. Use a plastic scraper with handle and hold it close to 90 degrees to the surface --- like you were using a pen --- but more vertical
3. Use a toothbrush toilet bowl cleaner brush around the rivets and keels
3.1 Use a long brush (yellow one in the picture) to finish it off --- I actually paint some goop on lightly and then swirl the brush and then rub vigorously back and forth and it kinda buffs it a bit... just gets any last bits off.
4. Hold paint brush with ready supply of goop in left hand while scraping with right

Results: About 10-15 minutes per 12-18". Not stupendous --- but it moves along.

Big note: Despite wearing a breathing apparatus --- I would recommend keeping window open or a garage door open. I kinda floated out of there... I really do mean that...

What I used this morning: --- the tool list is shrinking...

What I got done this morning:

One note: You can really spot the results of the rollers on the hull. EZ has always questioned rollers with aluminum --- I would say it is not a good idea. The rollers over time really indent the hull. I can only imagine the results if it was trailered over bumpy roads as well. Bunks are the better option if you can.

 

[rheagler]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

You're making good progress there... Looking good!

 

[Gibbles]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Looks great!

I look forward to seeing this thing stripped down and refinished!

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Looks great!

I look forward to seeing this thing stripped down and refinished!

Thanks Gibs... me to. Gonna hit it early in the morn and see what I can get accomplished.

RH --- thanks a bunch man. As you know, paint stripping is not the funnest task... but all part of the process. Thanks for stopping by.

Jim

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Hey Fella's...

Really enjoyed Sunday's warm temps in Ontario!! How nice to be working outside in a jersey and then a tee shirt... almost feel human again!

Anyway a quick progress update... had 3 early mornings (Sat, Sun and today) to get some boat therapy... Hull is now completely stripped. I began working on the sides and quickly realized that there is more than one coat of paint! There are at least 3... so progress slooooowed way down --- dang. However, this morn I did sorta speed the process up a bit by way of using a drywall scraper on the first layer or two (before getting to bear metal) and then using the plastic scraper/toilet bowl scrubbers --- so good news hear. Really going through a lot more goop though...

Progress shot:

Also got another little project done as well... added a window to the front of the garage. Lets in a lot more light at the front of the garage when the doors are closed. Just seamed like the thing to do on a nice warm day -- cut a hole!

Have a great Monday guys.

Jim

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

You're past the stripping now - Good news. Did you use lots of 5200 on the window? Don't want a leak. LOL

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

You're past the stripping now - Good news. Did you use lots of 5200 on the window? Don't want a leak. LOL

uhhhhhhhhhhhh I should have noted that I still have the other side to do and about 3 feet on the side that is showing!!! Oops!.

Yah the window is 5200 to death... Good news if there is a flood!

 

[rheagler]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Nice progress on the paint stripping! Looking good. I also for some reason love to cut holes in buildings on warm days. Never been able to figure out why..... Back to boats, keep on strippin! Paint that is.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Nice job IM, your almost there on the stripping, once you have that licked, it seems you are at the top of the mountain looking down.
Glen

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Thanks RH and DII --- It's nice to be moving forward!

Glen (Dozer) was right --- the Mar-Hyde (aircraft stripper) is by far and away the best. I picked up a quart last night as the Sure Strip was sold out. I followed the instructions, applied a coat to the last side of the boat that is not stripped and after about 20 minutes or so tried to strip it. The paint fell off. No scrubbing, sweating etc. Just fell off. I actually used a 4" metal drywall scrapper as I had wore my plastic one to a nub! I really, really like this stuff. It also doesn't stink!

So................ for those who want to use paint stripper to strip a boat... get the Mar-Hyde. It works. Plain and simple.

My neighbor also stopped by late last night and snapped the following photo of me in my nuclear fall out gear... notice that the side of the boat is now totally stripped. Just a half side to go and I will be done and ready for polishing and sealing.

I also placed and order yesterday for the Sonus polish and sealant as well as a new random orbiting polisher. I was going to go cheapy... but I would like to also use it on my cars, and I have had much better luck with the random orbiting polishers than the straight drive roating ones... should have everything next week.

So... list before floor is now really short:

1. Finish last side of stripping paint
2. Wash down with Vinigar and water???? --- not too sure here... any other simple suggestions???
3. Polish and seal hull
4. Flip boat.
5. Strip bow and gunnels
4. Wash down
5. Wash down insides to prep for Gluvit
6. Fix one Rivet in floor
7. Gluvit
FLOOR!!!

 

[Gibbles]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Nice work!

Are you going to paint the hull or just polish and seal it?

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Latest 2012 season beachwear from the Darth Vader line? ^^^^^^. And you aren't itching. After seeing dozens and dozens of paint stripping recommendations here, I don't know if there is a consistently performing product. What works for one doesn't work for someone else. I think temps and humidity really have a big say in the results. Glad the Mar-Hyde finally did the trick for you., IM

EDIT: Almost forgot. 50/50 white vinegar & water seems to do the trick.

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Nice work!

Are you going to paint the hull or just polish and seal it?

Going totally alfresco!! But with a mirror finish... No paint at this point either on the sides! That's the plan at this point anyway.

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Latest 2012 season beachwear from the Darth Vader line? ^^^^^^. And you aren't itching. After seeing dozens and dozens of paint stripping recommendations here, I don't know if there is a consistently performing product. What works for one doesn't work for someone else. I think temps and humidity really have a big say in the results. Glad the Mar-Hyde finally did the trick for you., IM

EDIT: Almost forgot. 50/50 white vinegar & water seems to do the trick.

Ya --- no itch... although my youngest is quite frightened of the mask...:facepalm:

Agreed... nothing works universally... but that is the way it is it seams with most restores/rebuilds.

50/50 white vinegar --- thanks!!! That's it.