1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I would fill the holes with seacast if you have any left, if not the duraglass will work fine. I "smoothed" up mine wit a grinder. I capped my stringers with 3 layers of 2 oz CSM.

Hey guys- three quick questions.
What should I use to fill in the holes I made in the transom for my bolts that I used for my supports?

And,

what did you use to sand down the seacast to get it smooth before you glasses it in?

And lastly,

what kind of fiberglass/how many layers did you use over your transom?

Thanks!

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Thanks guys again for the comments on the seacast pour!
Archbuilder thanks for the answers to my questions.

OK- I couldn't get away from it tonight- I'll get to bed soon!

Tonight I pulled the forms from the transom. That went real easy and the bolts came right out. I don't know if it was because of the wax I put on them or what, but they came right out,

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I was truly amazed how hard and solid this stuff is. I couldn't wait til tomorrow so I walked on the hull- it did not move a 1/16 of an inch!

Then I went on to finish my template for my floor. I'm thinking since everything will be glued and screwed I can just let the foam push out the sides of the deck were I felt there were some high spots, trim off the excess, and then glass and tab into the hull sides to seal everything instead of gluing around the perimeter of the deck.
What do you guys think?
Here is the template- came out pretty good.

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I also cut out for the bilge area- I went 7"X12"- approx 6" wider than what is was before.

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[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

A couple things from this afternoon.
The funnel I made was 16" long by 7" that funneled down to 1.5" I think this was a pretty good size for pouring seacast into the transom. If I could do it again I would have made the bottom of the funnel opening an inch and 3/8. We had some excess (minimal) sneak out onto the braces. By making the opening a little smaller this probably would have eliminated that.

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This was an old flag pole that I cut in half that we used to work in and around the transom. Worked out real good- didn't have to be pretty just functional to make sure you work everything into every nook and cranny.

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Here is a shot(s) of everything with the forms off

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And a shot of the bow eye bolt

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Well that's everything! If anyone has any questions- just ask.

Thanks Again for following!

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

great work Mick! Get some rest!

 

[Isaacm1986]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Awesome Job! It looks really good! That boat will be one sweet ride!

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Since you are this far into making a forever boat have you considdered using a manmade deck instead of wood? it is about $200 for a 4x8 sheet. At this point it might be something to considder.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I've considered it skibum but I got too much money already into the boat.
A glassed in fir ply is gonna have to be good enough!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Not even marine ply? Sheesh I guess you're really gonna half-***** it from here on out eh? Just kidding ya. Anyway, I bought some of that Arauco plywood for my transom. Someone on here said it is softer wood than the regular stuff. However, I used regular exterior ply on my deck and I'll tell you the Arauco had WAY less voids. So if you're going to full encapsulate it, which I'm sure you are, the Arauco (Lowes) is really nice stuff.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I don't think I'm half assing it but I read a couple threads saying fir is the way to go, especially if I am glassing it in. I will be glassing in the top, bottom, and sides so I'm not to worried about it.
I already picked up a piece of 3/4" BC grade fir from my local lumber yard. I told them about my application and how I would be glassing it in and they agreed it was the way to go. I could have gone with 5/8" but it was only $2 more for the 3/4"

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I'm using 3/4" on my project. I used it on my last boat and it was rock solid.

 

[tallcanadian]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

There is nothing wrong with plywood wrapped in fiberglass. It will last for years to come and is way cheaper. I used 3/4" marine grade on mine and it's very nice plywood. NO voids, smooth as silk. Great job on your boat.

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

True tallcanadian I used plywood on mine but he has already gone with seacast transom and stringers his floor will be the only thing in the boat that could ever possibly rot. If he used composite decking he will never have to worry about anything rotting ever. I know its alot more money but it depends on the size of his floor. If it was only 1 sheet I would go for it but if it takes 3 then I would go with plywood. My stringers were fine so I left them but If I had needed to do them I would have used seacast then 2 sheets of decking would have been worth it. I may have to pull up my floor in 5 years to do stringers now so Plywood was the right choice. I was just saying since everything else will last forever then he may want to considder a floor that would too.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick,
Did you manage to get you some rest?
I just wanted to let you know I have some slabs of limestone we could cut your deck out of in one piece. It might last as long as the rest of your boat. Ha! Ha!.
Once again great Job.
Bob

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Alien Archiologist "And here you see what the only remains of life on this planet. Everything else from their society is gone but we do have this left. It says Arkansas Traveler which we have no Idea"

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

HaHa. Thanks guys for the comments!
Tallcanadian- I like your vids!

I know that glassed in ply will last a very long time- prob my lifetime since this boat will be stored in the garage and used maybe couple dozen times a year.

Would I like to do something that is all composite? Sure I would. But---I would need to spend the money for two 4x8' sheets since I have a ten foot deck. Don't really want to do that.

Plus I really couldn't find out to much info on anything- I didn't really look to hard though- no time lately wonder why?

I just ordered my 2# foam today. I bought two of the $72 dollar kits cause I plan to fill the area in the bow as well with foam- this way everything under deck is sealed. Bought it from here- Thanks Archbuilder for the reference
http://www.jgreer.com/boat-foam.htm?gclid=CI6Zr5fUtpkCFQ48Qwod53JK7A

If you guys come across something reasonably priced for my deck application that is a composite material feel free to let me know- I'll check it out

Thanks

 

[SKIBUM1M]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

This is where I made my last order and they were great to deal with.
http://www.lbifiberglass.com/NIDA/nida.html
I cant remember how much seacast was but I think the nida transom might be cheaper (oh well too late now for both of us)

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick I use plywood on mine, and just glassed it up good. I did fork over the $ for the fir marine plywood.....but the glass is the important part! Get to work we need some entertainment!

 

[Mountain_Man]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Good, methodical work. Using your head too!.

By the way, did any one tell you that "these guys" won't give you a break!

I'm afraid I got mine coming soon enough.

 

[Isaacm1986]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Awesome, Awesome job Mick! I cant wait to see this thing finished!

Tomorrow I am starting to rip apart my 1972 ranger bass boat, it needs new deck, stringers, and transom as well.

Anyway, great job on your boat, and I look forward to seeing it continue to progress.

 

[lime4x4]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

looks awesome