Thinking about buying a new AR-15

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Same here, us kids knew where the guns were, we knew where the ammo was and we KNEW what would happen if we touched them without permission! My Mom, would not allow me to have a BB gun when I was growing up, and believe me, I wanted one! But she gave in when Dad bought me a 10/22 Ruger when I was 10, I have taken that gun around the world with me and I don't know how many of my men loved shooting it when we were deployed in various places around the world. I bet that original 10/22 has had a 100,000 round through it over the years.

thumpar, I also have one of those Rossi two barrel kits, only mine is a .22/20 gauge combo, got it from a guy I worked with a few years ago for $60 on a day he needed money to buy a laser for his AR.
 

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Same here, us kids knew where the guns were, we knew where the ammo was and we KNEW what would happen if we touched them without permission! My Mom, would not allow me to have a BB gun when I was growing up, and believe me, I wanted one! But she gave in when Dad bought me a 10/22 Ruger when I was 10, I have taken that gun around the world with me and I don't know how many of my men loved shooting it when we were deployed in various places around the world. I bet that original 10/22 has had a 100,000 round through it over the years.

thumpar, I also have one of those Rossi two barrel kits, only mine is a .22/20 gauge combo, got it from a guy I worked with a few years ago for $60 on a day he needed money to buy a laser for his AR.

MT is your over under a 22/20 gauge or 22mag/20 gauge? I like either combo. I really wouldn't mind finding a single barrel .410 just because. But looking at the usual gun sites, you would believe they are made out of gold. :noidea:

WIMUSKY, oh yes the Ruger 10/22 has got to be the best 22 rifle ever built. It is everywhere. My sister bought me one for a Christmas present from K-Mart decades ago and for a mere $38 dollars too, and it was a walnut stocked original. I think I have 6 or 7 of them presently. Don't ask me why...I couldn't answer that question. I just can't pass up a deal when I find one. :facepalm:

thumpar, any time you can go shooting with your kids is a great day. It not only builds respect for the gun, but also comradery as well. And how can that be a bad thing ever. :thumb:
 

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MT is your over under a 22/20 gauge or 22mag/20 gauge? I like either combo. I really wouldn't mind finding a single barrel .410 just because. But looking at the usual gun sites, you would believe they are made out of gold. :noidea:

WIMUSKY, oh yes the Ruger 10/22 has got to be the best 22 rifle ever built. It is everywhere. My sister bought me one for a Christmas present from K-Mart decades ago and for a mere $38 dollars too, and it was a walnut stocked original. I think I have 6 or 7 of them presently. Don't ask me why...I couldn't answer that question. I just can't pass up a deal when I find one. :facepalm:

thumpar, any time you can go shooting with your kids is a great day. It not only builds respect for the gun, but also comradery as well. And how can that be a bad thing ever. :thumb:
The Rossi I have is a takedown and you just swap the barrels. They are single shot and are like a break open gun when you switch the barrel. It only takes a few seconds to switch. My son can do it on his own but I want him to get a little bigger to try the .410.
 

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WIMUSKY, oh yes the Ruger 10/22 has got to be the best 22 rifle ever built. It is everywhere. My sister bought me one for a Christmas present from K-Mart decades ago and for a mere $38 dollars too, and it was a walnut stocked original. I think I have 6 or 7 of them presently. Don't ask me why...I couldn't answer that question. I just can't pass up a deal when I find one. :facepalm:

Ok, here's my 10/22. Took the pic a while ago. That's why the Ruger Mark II is in the pic:


I think a good all-around big game rifle is a .30-06. It has good knockdown power and will take anything from a deer to a moose and everything in between. That's all I've owned. My current one is a Browning Safari semi-auto. Granted, the bolt actions will shoot flatter for longer range shots. But, I take deer regularly at 200yds. I have a Leupold VX-II 3/9 scope...
 

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Ok, here's my 10/22. Took the pic a while ago. That's why the Ruger Mark II is in the pic:


I think a good all-around big game rifle is a .30-06. It has good knockdown power and will take anything from a deer to a moose and everything in between. That's all I've owned. My current one is a Browning BAR Safari semi-auto. Granted, the bolt actions will shoot flatter for longer range shots. But, I take deer regularly at 200yds. I have a Leupold VX-II 3/9 scope...

WIMUSKY, nothing wrong with either of those firearms. I have an older Ruger Standard 22 pistol. Love it. Browning makes some nice guns as does most any well known gun manufacture these days. Can never go wrong buying a name brand gun. The price never goes down. JMHO!
 
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Having no youngsters at home I never thought about keeping a loaded hand gun around the house. In fact If it weren't for the wife's grandchildren I would have most likely never have purchased a gun safe. I'm still not fully comfortable with the access time of the fingerprint activated safe on the night stand.
As for the theft prospect......All of my firearms are quite replaceable via insurance.
 

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Having no youngsters at home I never thought about keeping a loaded hand gun around the house. In fact If it weren't for the wife's grandchildren I would have most likely never have purchased a gun safe. I'm still not fully comfortable with the access time of the fingerprint activated safe on the night stand.
As for the theft prospect......All of my firearms are quite replaceable via insurance.

Limited-Time, while do understand what you are saying about insurance replacement, some of my guns have memories attached with them and therefore they can't be simply replaced. Yes the actual type and calibers can, but not the original firearm with family meanings. And that is partially why I own a pretty large gun safe as well. JMHO!
 

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WIMUSKY, nothing wrong with either of those firearms. I have an older Ruger Standard 22 pistol. Love it. Browning makes some nice guns as does most any well known gun manufacture these days. Can never go wrong buying a name brand gun. The price never goes down. JMHO!

The choices for semi auto deer rifles is very limited. And Browning pretty much topped the list. But you pay for it too..... I traded a Remington 7400 for the Browning. I had it for at least 25 years and they gave me $20 less than I paid for it. They do hold their value. My brother has the same rifle. I thought he was nuts paying $600 for it, idk, maybe 10 years ago. I wish I only paid $600.... The Remington's are over $700 now..... I paid $400 something back in the day......
 

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MT is your over under a 22/20 gauge or 22mag/20 gauge? I like either combo. I really wouldn't mind finding a single barrel .410 just because. But looking at the usual gun sites, you would believe they are made out of gold. :noidea:

My Rossi is a take down model, you just change out the barrels, single shot, pretty simple little outfit, great for backpacking. Just a regular .22 LR
 

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Limited-Time, while do understand what you are saying about insurance replacement, some of my guns have memories attached with them and therefore they can't be simply replaced. Yes the actual type and calibers can, but not the original firearm with family meanings. And that is partially why I own a pretty large gun safe as well. JMHO!

gm, I have a brother and several friends in the same boat as you firearm wise. Some collectable some sentimental, some no longer manufactured. Those guys all have large long duration fire rated safes. None of my firearms have any value beyond replacement cost
 

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Shot my daughter's .270 today ... Got it dialed in fairly close ... We shot the 2 boxes that came with the gun. Now we will switch to our reloads and see where we are. Seems to be a fairly consistent gun.

As for collections, I have almost all of all my grandfather's guns. Just a few of them went to my brothers. I keep saying that I will sell or trade some, but the truth is, once they make it into the house, they can never leave ...
 

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Shot my daughter's .270 today ... Got it dialed in fairly close ... We shot the 2 boxes that came with the gun. Now we will switch to our reloads and see where we are. Seems to be a fairly consistent gun.

As for collections, I have almost all of all my grandfather's guns. Just a few of them went to my brothers. I keep saying that I will sell or trade some, but the truth is, once they make it into the house, they can never leave ...

aspeck, I used to zero rifles for everybody because I can literally zero a rifle in in about 3 to 4 shots. There is a really simple trick to it. First thing you need to do is forget about the usual 1/4" click adjustments. That is really only good if you are absolutely sitting 100 yards from the target, and Not 95 yards or even 110 yards. So with a typical bolt action, you remove the bolt. Set the rifle on a tripod (adjustable front shooting rest) with sand bags supporting it so it doesn't move. Then look down the empty barrel and focus the center of the barrel on an object about a 100 yards away. It really doesn't matter the exact distance, just some bright easy to see spot. then with out moving the gun, set the scope crosshairs at that exact same shiny object. Now you are really to shoot your first round. It won't be exactly on. but very close.

Next thing to do is shoot two or three rounds at the center of the target regardless when you see the rounds hitting on the target. It doesn't matter if they are hitting high, low, left or right as long as they are grouping on the target. Two rounds can do it after you learn the technique. After shooting those rounds, take a look at where the rounds hit. I usually walk downrange (with everybody stop shooting and all guns opened) and see where the rounds hit. Then I take a magic marker and circle those rounds on the target. Make the circle close enough to the actual holes and dark enough to be easily seen.

Next I take the same rifle and sight the center of the target again like you did for the first round of shots. Then sand bag the rifle so it can't move from that position. Sometimes a helper can hold it solid. You have to have the rifle positioned on the same center of the target your previously shot from. Now what you are seeing downrange from the scope it exactly where the barrel is pointed and shooting. So now you move the crosshairs over the previous shot grouping and I guarantee you your next shot will be dead center of where ever your crosshairs are pointed.

The thing folks have to remember is you are adjusting the sights, be it a scope or even open sights, to where the rifle shoots. Not the other way around. And once you see where the rifle hits, you adjust the scope to that position. Now if you are doing the same thing with a auto=loader that you can't sight down the empty barrel. Use the side of the barrel to get you on paper. Then follow the same procedures. It works every time and no need to waste costly ammunition.

One year the evening before opening day of deer season, I zeroed 17 high-power rifles in one evening for folks. And some of those rifles had never even been shot before. They bought them new and came out to the range for me to zero them. Yes, I know sounds silly, but I don't allow recoil to hamper my shooting. The actual funny thing about that evening was the owners of those rifles asked me after I zeroed them in, if they could shoot their rifles. My answer was it is your rifle why ask me? Yes my arm takes a beating, but I don't let the recoil ever effect my concentration when zeroing or shooting any rifle. And yes I have zeroed 300WIN Mags and 300 Weatherby Mags before as well.

Sorry for such a long boring post. :facepalm: :sorry:
 

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I just use my Bushnell bore sight kit, then pop a few on target to get 100% zeroed, most of my guns have been sighted in for years now.
 

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After putting back together the Marlin lever action I refinished the stock on for my grand daughter I checked it out and found the point of impact had dropped about 3 inches. I figure it was caused by the removal and retightening the two barrel bands. I cranked it back and got it close and let her sight in the next day. I told my wife it was better for her to sight it in in case she may cant the rifle a bit. In truth it was because she is holding tighter groups than me.

Wish I could trade this old body in for the one I had when I was eighteen
 

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GM, I have a bore sighter that I used to get it close and did basically what you do. We were just having fun shooting. At 100 yards it nicks the top of the bull. Now to see how it shoots with my reloads, and then see how the yardage marks work with this set up out to 300 yards, but that is for another day ... Just want my daughter to shoot it till it becomes part of her ...
 
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aspeck, I used to zero rifles for everybody because I can literally zero a rifle in in about 3 to 4 shots. There is a really simple trick to it. First thing you need to do is forget about the usual 1/4" click adjustments. That is really only good if you are absolutely sitting 100 yards from the target, and Not 95 yards or even 110 yards. So with a typical bolt action, you remove the bolt. Set the rifle on a tripod (adjustable front shooting rest) with sand bags supporting it so it doesn't move. Then look down the empty barrel and focus the center of the barrel on an object about a 100 yards away. It really doesn't matter the exact distance, just some bright easy to see spot. then with out moving the gun, set the scope crosshairs at that exact same shiny object. Now you are really to shoot your first round. It won't be exactly on. but very close.

Next thing to do is shoot two or three rounds at the center of the target regardless when you see the rounds hitting on the target. It doesn't matter if they are hitting high, low, left or right as long as they are grouping on the target. Two rounds can do it after you learn the technique. After shooting those rounds, take a look at where the rounds hit. I usually walk downrange (with everybody stop shooting and all guns opened) and see where the rounds hit. Then I take a magic marker and circle those rounds on the target. Make the circle close enough to the actual holes and dark enough to be easily seen.

Next I take the same rifle and sight the center of the target again like you did for the first round of shots. Then sand bag the rifle so it can't move from that position. Sometimes a helper can hold it solid. You have to have the rifle positioned on the same center of the target your previously shot from. Now what you are seeing downrange from the scope it exactly where the barrel is pointed and shooting. So now you move the crosshairs over the previous shot grouping and I guarantee you your next shot will be dead center of where ever your crosshairs are pointed.

The thing folks have to remember is you are adjusting the sights, be it a scope or even open sights, to where the rifle shoots. Not the other way around. And once you see where the rifle hits, you adjust the scope to that position. Now if you are doing the same thing with a auto=loader that you can't sight down the empty barrel. Use the side of the barrel to get you on paper. Then follow the same procedures. It works every time and no need to waste costly ammunition.

One year the evening before opening day of deer season, I zeroed 17 high-power rifles in one evening for folks. And some of those rifles had never even been shot before. They bought them new and came out to the range for me to zero them. Yes, I know sounds silly, but I don't allow recoil to hamper my shooting. The actual funny thing about that evening was the owners of those rifles asked me after I zeroed them in, if they could shoot their rifles. My answer was it is your rifle why ask me? Yes my arm takes a beating, but I don't let the recoil ever effect my concentration when zeroing or shooting any rifle. And yes I have zeroed 300WIN Mags and 300 Weatherby Mags before as well.

Sorry for such a long boring post. :facepalm: :sorry:


I use the same process, works great!
 
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