The O'Reily Factor show

[gonefishie]

Did anybody see the comment Bill O'Reily made at the beginning of his show on Fox last nite? I like this guy. He said that the image of stranded poor peoples should be show to every school children by every teacher in the country and tell them that if you don't get an education and a good job you're going to end up like those peoples. The concept of self reliance must be a requirement to be taught in school. He immediately reminded me of my late father whom told me the same thing many many times when I was a kid. I could remember as young as 6 or 7 he would take me to poor neighborhood and showed me the people lives in shack, homeless and beggars and said if I don't do well in school, I will end up like them. Everytime we go somewhere and spotted a homeless person, he would pounded that message into my head. Basically brain washed me that a good education and a well paying job is my main objective and nothing else.

 

[KaGee]

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Yes I saw it. The truth is hard for some to hear.<br />What did jack Nicholson say??? "Truth...you can't handle the truth"<br /><br />Katrina is the perfect example. The self reliant are somehow getting it done. Those relying on the gobment to help them out are the one's whinning that the gobment has let them down.

 

[PW2]

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Yet another ignorant comment by O'Reilly.<br /><br />It's easy to criticize others when you have all the advantages in the world from the start.<br /><br />Education is made up of lots of different things that start long before school starts...<br /><br />To proper nutrition, and early childhood education (like reading to a kid from an early age) and who knows what else.<br /><br />What this hurricane has shown us is the vast gulf in this country between the have and the have nots, and we need as a nation need to address this problem somehow. I'm not exactly sure how to do it, as it is not my field of expertise, but we have to do a better job somehow, and holding some up to ridicule is hardly the way to do it.<br /><br />I'm certainly not against self reliance, and I've worked hard at doing the things I can for my children to instill that same sense in them. I have a daughter who is blind who is now a software engineer at Microsoft, so I'd say I was reasonably successful.<br /><br />But it took a lot of work by her and her parents to achieve that, and it is not realistic to expect that parents that have no hope are somehow going to have children that do have hope. <br /><br />It happens, I am sure in rare circumstances, but it is not the norm. Again, I am not sure how to affect the change, but it appears what we are doing isn't working, and my hunch is ridicule is not the answer.

 

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by PW2:<br /> Yet another ignorant comment by O'Reilly.<br /><br />It's easy to criticize others when you have all the advantages in the world from the start.<br /><br />Education is made up of lots of different things that start long before school starts...<br /><br />To proper nutrition, and early childhood education (like reading to a kid from an early age) and who knows what else.<br /><br />What this hurricane has shown us is the vast gulf in this country between the have and the have nots, and we need as a nation need to address this problem somehow. I'm not exactly sure how to do it, as it is not my field of expertise, but we have to do a better job somehow, and holding some up to ridicule is hardly the way to do it.<br /><br />I'm certainly not against self reliance, and I've worked hard at doing the things I can for my children to instill that same sense in them. I have a daughter who is blind who is now a software engineer at Microsoft, so I'd say I was reasonably successful.<br /><br />But it took a lot of work by her and her parents to achieve that, and it is not realistic to expect that parents that have no hope are somehow going to have children that do have hope. <br /><br />It happens, I am sure in rare circumstances, but it is not the norm. Again, I am not sure how to affect the change, but it appears what we are doing isn't working, and my hunch is ridicule is not the answer.

I guess that you are just lucky, PW, that the Democrat ethic of dependence, the party whose line you so subscribe to, that has been roundly proffered these last 50 years, did not reach out and grab you and your family like it did so many others.<br /><br />Generations have been ruined by this profligate pandering to the pooooooooooor! And I daresay that we are seeing ample evidence of that in the NO catastrophe.

 

[LubeDude]

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Give me your tired, your poor, <br />Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, <br />The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. <br />Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: <br />I lift my lamp beside the golden door. <br /><br /><br />The Republicans look at these people and do what they can to make them self sufficient and able to take care of themselves.<br /><br />The Democrates look at these people and see them as potential voters and make sure they give them everything so they have to rely on government for everything.

 

[kenimpzoom]

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PW, the only difference between the haves and the have nots is money and determination. They both have equal opportunity and intellegence.<br /><br />Ridicule and embarassment are excellent causes of motivation and determination.<br /><br />What we need is these people to be too proud or embarassed to be goverment dependent all their lives.<br /><br />Many have no pride.<br /><br />What ever happened to black pride, it was the best idea they ever had.<br /><br />Ken

 

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by KenImpZoom:<br /> <br />What ever happened to black pride, it was the best idea they ever had.

I disagree entirely KIZ. Certainly not in the manner that it was presented in it's day. It was a false pride based on a nonsensical notion of where their roots were with an in your face sense of "I can act however I want to act and what are you going to do about it Whitey!"<br /><br />Realistic pride comes from some semblence of self reliance, education, family, moral core, and honest accomplishment.<br /><br />All of those traits have been diminished by the post civil rights civil rights programs brought to you by GUESS WHO? The Democratic Party.<br /><br />You ask the likes of Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams and Clarence Thomas (BTW, Uncle Toms all) and they will all tell you that that inspite of segregation (admittedly not good) Blacks were of much stronger character than many today.

 

[Booner]

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quote by PW2:<br />__________________________________________________<br />Yet another ignorant comment by O'Reilly.<br />__________________________________________________<br />Bill O'Riley could not have said it any better.<br />He was telling people to get a education get a job and stop being a burden on societies.<br /> I agree 100%.<br /> That’s what I tell my two girls. By the way the oldest is on scholarship at K-State<br /> <br />Just waiting on txswhinner to come in and make a comment.

 

[TELMANMN]

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Get an education and then get outsourced, allow scum to take your job because they will work for less(don't do a better job, just cheaper so the O'Reillys can make more money) or when you get over 50 they get rid of you(saying gee you have worked for us for 30 years but you make too much and our shareholders(CEO's and hedgefunds) need to make more money. <br /> Have you noticed only the Red states are getting really smashed. My mom always said "God will get even with you"!

 

[PW2]

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What O'Reilly said was ignorant.<br /><br />What many of what you all said was equally as ignorant.<br /><br />I don't know what democratic position you are assuming I endorse, but when you get your information from political idealogues, they are likely to be flawed.<br /><br />I am a scientist, and believe in the scientific method. Try something, analyze what happened, take the good and leave the bad, and try again.<br /><br />In short, I believe in doing what produces desirable results, and not doing what produces undesirable results.<br /><br />You all seem to know what the results are before the experiment is ever conducted. A sure sign of cooked study.

 

[Kenneth Brown]

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Because some of us have to live in your experiment.

 

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by telmanmn:<br /> Get an education and then get outsourced, allow scum to take your job because they will work for less(don't do a better job, just cheaper so the O'Reillys can make more money) or when you get over 50 they get rid of you(saying gee you have worked for us for 30 years but you make too much and our shareholders(CEO's and hedgefunds) need to make more money. <br /> Have you noticed only the Red states are getting really smashed. My mom always said "God will get even with you"!

Uuuuh, telmanmn, what in your infinite wisdom would be a solution to this problem. It couldn't possibly reside with you could it. Maybe if you'd a had an O'reilly in you upbringing you wouldn't be so quick to think that someone else was responsible for your well being when times and circumstances change. Hmmmmmm?

 

[TELMANMN]

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Truth hurts. And the ones who have no clue, it hurts more. I do not need to quote others. I use my intellect for more than trying to figure out what way is up. May God have mercy on your soul. I gave up forgiving along time ago.

 

[ErikDC]

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I've said it before. Government help is bad, self reliance is good. I'll keep banging the drum to the end of time, if that's what it takes.

 

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by telmanmn:<br /> Truth hurts. And the ones who have no clue, it hurts more. I do not need to quote others. I use my intellect for more than trying to figure out what way is up. May God have mercy on your soul. I gave up forgiving along time ago.

A very articulate solution to a set of supposed problems imposed on you by others.<br /><br />

Get an education and then get outsourced, allow scum to take your job because they will work for less(don't do a better job, just cheaper so the O'Reillys can make more money) or when you get over 50 they get rid of you(saying gee you have worked for us for 30 years but you make too much and our shareholders(CEO's and hedgefunds) need to make more money. <br />Have you noticed only the Red states are getting really smashed. My mom always said "God will get even with you"!

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by PW2:<br /> I am a scientist, and believe in the scientific method. Try something, analyze what happened, take the good and leave the bad, and try again.<br /><br />In short, I believe in doing what produces desirable results, and not doing what produces undesirable results.<br /><br />

Yes, what you said above I believe in whole heartedly. What I dont understand is that you think what "YOU" believe in is the answer, I dont see it working at all. Socialism never works, dosnt work, isnt working, for the Dems. There party is so screwed up there is no making any sense of it at all, and Howard dean as your leader, Hes completly out of his mind. Why you would want to be a part of it makes me beside myself. <br /><br />The Republican party we have now isnt my poster child either, but at least there is some semblence of thought to it.

 

[roscoe]

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PW2 -- "I am a scientist, and believe in the scientific method. Try something, analyze what happened, take the good and leave the bad, and try again.<br /><br />In short, I believe in doing what produces desirable results, and not doing what produces undesirable results."<br /><br />So what do you think will work best? Motivating people in any way possible to get an education and strive to be self sufficient. Or bow down to the teachers union and just pass the kids along regardless of learning valuable skills?<br /><br />Lets see, I think this experiment has been run many times in the last .. oh say, CENTURY.<br /><br />Oh lets just teach them about their feelings and how to be outraged at 'da man'.

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by roscoe:<br />Lets see, I think this experiment has been run many times in the last .. oh say, CENTURY.<br /><br />Oh lets just teach them about their feelings and how to be outraged at 'da man'.

Yep, I just dont get why They have the blinders on.

 

[PW2]

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The nice thing about your philosophy is that when it doesn't work, and it won't work, it is by definition someone else's fault.<br /><br />Pretty handy.

 

[gonefishie]

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The nice thing about your philosophy is that when it doesn't work, and it won't work, it is by definition someone else's fault.<br /><br />Pretty handy.<br /><br /><br />It is their fault, if you and someone else doing the exact same thing and you succeeded but they failed. Or is it the scientific mind said that it's your fault because they can't help it? Oh by the way PW2, define IGNORANT?