Starcraft on C-list/ebay!

barato2

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probably a few leaky rivets, common on these old crocks.

boat looks nice otherwise and homebrew (?) center console looks decently done, altho the bottom feeders wll tell you the $ is high for a 14'. IMHO, for someone looking for his first boat, this would be a good possibility esp if you can negotiate him down a few hundred.....it sounds like you might be happier with one that doesn't need quite as much work as some of these "recycling-center rescue dogs" that some of us buy. if i'm reading the ad correctly, sounds like all it needs is lighting rewired to be water ready....easy job, esp if you invest $25-30 in a boat or auto wiring book. but i note he doesn't mention floor and transom condition....be ready to poke around with sharp obect looking for soft wood.

the 21' looks nice but a boat this size is a SERIOUS boat.......harder to store/launch/move around on trlr, more to go wrong, you'll need to learn about I/Os. i see this contrast between my 18' I/O Starchief and my 18' OB holiday....even tho both have same hull, holiday is MUCH simpler boat. think very hard whether you want to get into this much boat for a first one.
 

jontwentyfive

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probably a few leaky rivets, common on these old crocks.

boat looks nice otherwise and homebrew (?) center console looks decently done, altho the bottom feeders wll tell you the $ is high for a 14'. IMHO, for someone looking for his first boat, this would be a good possibility esp if you can negotiate him down a few hundred.....it sounds like you might be happier with one that doesn't need quite as much work as some of these "recycling-center rescue dogs" that some of us buy. if i'm reading the ad correctly, sounds like all it needs is lighting rewired to be water ready....easy job, esp if you invest $25-30 in a boat or auto wiring book. but i note he doesn't mention floor and transom condition....be ready to poke around with sharp obect looking for soft wood.

the 21' looks nice but a boat this size is a SERIOUS boat.......harder to store/launch/move around on trlr, more to go wrong, you'll need to learn about I/Os. i see this contrast between my 18' I/O Starchief and my 18' OB holiday....even tho both have same hull, holiday is MUCH simpler boat. think very hard whether you want to get into this much boat for a first one.


Agreed - the 21' is a lot, esp for the first boat and esp on this not so huge lake (though it seems like it would be a good next step after the first boat perhaps).

On the smaller leaky boat - what's the level of effort to fix rivets, etc?
 

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depends how good a "fix" you want. Doing It Right and More-or-Less Forever means: pulling floor, testing for leakage by filling bilge with water while boat is on trlr and marking leaky rivets, rebucking or replacing any leaky ones, taking hull down to bare metal inside, covering with some goop called "Gluvit", then replacing floor. West Marine sells some stuff that's applied to outside of hull but you stll have to do the leak test and take hull exterior down to bare metal, and you probably have to flip boat (a little easier with 14' than 21' cruiser...). look at some of the resto threads for pix of process. and imagine doing this job on a 21'..........:eek:

i'd start with just doing the leak test with floor installed and see how bad it is. if not too bad and floor is otherwise OK, and you won't be more than a mile or 2 from shore, i'd just get a second 1200+gph (AKA 2gal/min) bilge pump and check its operation before every trip (the Slob Solution):rolleyes:
 

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depends how good a "fix" you want. Doing It Right and More-or-Less Forever means: pulling floor, testing for leakage by filling bilge with water while boat is on trlr and marking leaky rivets, rebucking or replacing any leaky ones, taking hull down to bare metal inside, covering with some goop called "Gluvit", then replacing floor. West Marine sells some stuff that's applied to outside of hull but you stll have to do the leak test and take hull exterior down to bare metal, and you probably have to flip boat (a little easier with 14' than 21' cruiser...). look at some of the resto threads for pix of process. and imagine doing this job on a 21'..........:eek:

i'd start with just doing the leak test with floor installed and see how bad it is. if not too bad and floor is otherwise OK, and you won't be more than a mile or 2 from shore, i'd just get a second 1200+gph (AKA 2gal/min) bilge pump and check its operation before every trip (the Slob Solution):rolleyes:

Yeah - for now I'll only be on the lake, where you're never really more than 1/2 mile from shore.

Oh man, so my search went from digging through all the local listings to searching for aluminum boats across all regions within a few hours drive from me. Hah, and I thought this was going to help make my search less taxing :)

Now to find a 14-17 footer with a small cuddy (with the big windows) that I can hang out in on the days I'm working from home (wifi from the apartment should reach the dock) :)
 

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Now to find a 14-17 footer with a small cuddy (with the big windows) that I can hang out in on the days I'm working from home (wifi from the apartment should reach the dock) :)

The smallest cuddy is probably the Starchief at 18'. It is awesome though and would be a great first boat.

starchiefsplash0001.jpg
 

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Nice Pic EZ, that aaaasss end has the water strake/chine in the water, an example of my comment about weight distribution/displacement.
 

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Nice Pic EZ, that aaaasss end has the water strake/chine in the water, an example of my comment about weight distribution/displacement.

Yeah that one has an I/O so it doesn't sit as level. Mine is like perfectly level in the water.
 

barato2

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and swarms of angels flying around the motor ;)

you realize you just insulted my boat? cuddy cabin indeed. :mad: it does technically qualify but i always think of a cuddy as those hunched-shoulder low pseudocabins. i think of it more as a "pocket cruiser", a Hatteras for the po folks. and the Islander/Chiaftain* defnitely are in that category.


* typo, but decided to leave it due to the vision of Starcrafts covered with lush green
 

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He emailed me about this today again. aid he would take $200 for it. I might wait another week to see if he will drop the price some more ;)

Holy smokes, 200! Wow man, that takes restraint.
 
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