Speed/red light cameras

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

Comrade, I have a feeling that too will change shortly.

Well, it never will. It can't. You can't be issued a criminal violation from a private company.

The problem I have remains what the issue was several years ago, guilty until proven innocent. That STILL is not how our justice system works. They say, "It's not a criminal violation, it's a ticket, basically a bill." Well, legally, no company can issue you a bill that you did not receive any good or service for. If a plumber can't bill you for something you never agreed to, a red light violation company can't bill you for something you never agreed to. There are legal problems all over the place with this stuff.

Here is an old thread I made before several in this thread were even members when they popped up in our city. 3 years later, they are still a hot topic.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=229582

 

[bowman316]

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kinda makes you want to go around town at night and shoot out the camera's

i hate those red arrows too.
when you can turn left after yeilding to oncomming traffic.
but there is a red arrow there.
so i can't turn left if there is no traffic comming?
come on.
that just slows down busy intersections.

 

[skargo]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

Well, it never will. It can't. You can't be issued a criminal violation from a private company.

The problem I have remains what the issue was several years ago, guilty until proven innocent. That STILL is not how our justice system works. They say, "It's not a criminal violation, it's a ticket, basically a bill." Well, legally, no company can issue you a bill that you did not receive any good or service for. If a plumber can't bill you for something you never agreed to, a red light violation company can't bill you for something you never agreed to. There are legal problems all over the place with this stuff.

Here is an old thread I made before several in this thread were even members when they popped up in our city. 3 years later, they are still a hot topic.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=229582

I agree, many here can't grasp the CIVIL violation part of this. I see the people that think I'm an evil speed demon have no clue, nor have no experience in a city with these cameras everywhere.
Like I said, my aunt has 12 so far this year. I have 8, not 10, I actually counted them last night. 2 people I invest with have 8 and 10 respectively.

I guess people think we are a gang of hooligans who are tearing up the city LOL

Off to read your thread now

 

[Tim Frank]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

If it is just a 3rd party company that is running the red light cams I would be surprised.
In Ontario, the system is run by the Govt. (too much $$$ involved to farm it out I guess...)

Here the tickets are like a parking infraction...registered against the vehicle and thus its owner; no points involved and so no insurance impact either, but you are on the hook for the fine....no pay?...no annual license renewal until all fines are cleared.

 

[MTboatguy]

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That was how the cities in Montana screwed themselves, they tried to say the company operating the camera system were authorized agents for law enforcement, the legislature said nope now way, no how and drew up a law banning them...

 

[jonesg]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQSDLySi8G8&feature=related

this will do the trick.

Or this computer screen privacy film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBypdB-txro&feature=related

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

If it is just a 3rd party company that is running the red light cams I would be surprised.
In Ontario, the system is run by the Govt. (too much $$$ involved to farm it out I guess...)

Here the tickets are like a parking infraction...registered against the vehicle and thus its owner; no points involved and so no insurance impact either, but you are on the hook for the fine....no pay?...no annual license renewal until all fines are cleared.

Tim, it is just a 3rd party company running them. The company's name is Redflex out of Arizona. You can google them for more information. Notice how many lawsuits there are against them.

Here is the bastard's website.

http://www.redflex.com/

 

[skargo]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQSDLySi8G8&feature=related

this will do the trick.

Or this computer screen privacy film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBypdB-txro&feature=related

I might try the second method, as I could see a cop stopping me for the louver style cover.

Thanks!

 

[Tim Frank]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

Tim, it is just a 3rd party company running them. The company's name is Redflex out of Arizona. You can google them for more information. Notice how many lawsuits there are against them.

Here is the bastard's website.

http://www.redflex.com/

OP is in Baltimore....how is this link relevant?

 

[Summer Fun]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

We don't have them out here in the country.

But, My marina does have 8 security cameras 1 of them caught this guy trying to steal my boat .

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[waterinthefuel]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

OP is in Baltimore....how is this link relevant?

Because redflex is the biggest operator of these red light and speed cameras in the nation. They are out of Arizona, but there are Redflex cameras within 2 miles of my home in south Louisiana. Chances are, the company that operates the cameras where the OP is located is Redflex.

 

[skargo]

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We don't have them out here in the country.

But, My marina does have 8 security cameras 1 of them caught this guy trying to steal my boat .

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We don't have them in the country either, but if you look back you will see I travel to the city for business every day.
Hell, where i live we have 1 traffic light, and you can leave your keys in your car. You can't build on less than 2 acres and there is no crime.

Not sure how that relates?

I would watch the guy in your boat, he's a real sponge.

 

[Bob_VT]

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Speaking of Camera's............... Here are a few stealth one's revealed to the public.

 

[Tim Frank]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

Because redflex is the biggest operator of these red light and speed cameras in the nation. They are out of Arizona, but there are Redflex cameras within 2 miles of my home in south Louisiana. Chances are, the company that operates the cameras where the OP is located is Redflex.

Not according to their website....

 

[skargo]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

Speaking of Camera's............... Here are a few stealth one's revealed to the public.

Holy crap that is funny!

 

[bowman316]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

hey,
you know spoungebob can't pass his driving test.

don't let him drive your boat!

with that provacy screen, if you are still at 90 degrees to the plate, but at a high angle up and down, can you see the plate?

 

[bruceb58]

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Los Angeles red light cameras are operated by ATS which is also a company from Arizona. LA was supposed to be boycotting doing business with Arizona companies but decided to have a waiver against this particular one.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...ght-camera-contract-from-arizona-boycott.html

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

Not according to their website....

Redflex is ****ing huge, and here is a site map to prove it. It's quite understandable to see why I thought it was redflex that had their contract too.

http://www.redflex.com/html/usa/results/overview

 

[tswiczko]

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who would you trust to run the cameras

an independent company who generates their revenue from on a percentage or per ticket basis

or local government who generates their revenue from giving out the tickets.

Personally I feel there is a conflict of interest in either case. and have heard many horror stories of the timers in the camerasa being out of callibration causing tickets to be generated without an actual infraction.

 

[skargo]

Re: Speed/red light cameras

Photo Mask Cover is installed!