Service of DP-A Volvo outdrive

lyt

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Re: Service of DP-A Volvo outdrive

yeah....

its just silly.


anyway... can I ask you a question about a part....

If I see this

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or this

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are they the same part?

they look similar
 

Don S

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Re: Service of DP-A Volvo outdrive

Yes, same thing. Volvo stopped using the dash numbers many years ago.
 

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ok....Started dis-assembly of the unit....

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Having difficulty with the left hand nut (right arrow) because i cannot "hold" the shaft at the other end. Yes.... I know it is left hand threaded, that is not the issue....***now I know why i need a $200 special volvo tool. is there any trick for this? ....because at this point I am stuck since I am not a volvo shop ...with parts like a shaft coupler laying around. what is the trick to do it without damaging the shaft? duct tape and vice grips?

I am considering using 2x4's and making a shaft sandwich with 2 c-clamps then it wont spin.... any thoughts? maybe there is a real easy trick I'm just not seeing....


the 2nd issue is like the first.....taking the torx bolt out.... this might be easier..... since I can wedge something in....but would prefer advice before I bend something i shouldn't
 

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I just got a piece of 1X1 angle iron about 4 to 6" long, welded one of those splined couplers that goes between the upper and lower to it, clamped the angle in a good solid vise, set the gear box in the splines and had at it. No problem.

Clamp the ujoints in the vise, the remove the Torx bolt, You CAN NOT retorque that bolt to get the proper rolling torque without a good vise. It just ain't gonna' happen.
 

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right... I don't have a splined coupler laying around like you might :)

the clamp sandwich did not work.....


my address is......... :)
 

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ok...but in all seriousness...

I have no issues putting the u joints in the vice.... but the other shaft....i REALLY dont want to buy another part I will never use again.....

so i am thinking drill hole in a 2x4 smaller than shaft, cut the 2x4 longways in the middle of the hole then into the vice.... i would hope this would hold it as the splines dig into the wood.

BTW this nut is SERIOUSLY tight. not sure if someone used a whole can of loctite but i would have thought i could have gotten it off with c-clamps.
 

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Check with your local boat shop or Volvo dealer. I used to keep a few of those things that were twisted and not usable in a drive, but were handy for making all sorts of Volvo tools.
 

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I disassembled my entire 270 without a single special tool. Sometimes you just have to get a little creative.

I cannot remember what I did with that nut. I probably used an impact driver which popped it right off.
 

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The first time I removed the left hand nut I put the splined coupler on the shaft and held it with a vise and pipe wrench while using a socket on the nut.

The second time I had to do this, I broke the nut loose while the upper gear box was still installed on the drive (remove the top cover of the upper gear box. I blocked a prop blade to lock the upper shaft. I find this method much easier. Just be careful to block the blade so it has maximum leverage to resist turning, otherwise you can bend a blade tip.

Wes
 

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The first time I removed the left hand nut I put the splined coupler on the shaft and held it with a vise and pipe wrench while using a socket on the nut.

The second time I had to do this, I broke the nut loose while the upper gear box was still installed on the drive (remove the top cover of the upper gear box. I blocked a prop blade to lock the upper shaft. I find this method much easier. Just be careful to block the blade so it has maximum leverage to resist turning, otherwise you can bend a blade tip.

Wes

if i had to do it again.... yes i would leave it attached like your 2nd time. too much of a pain to do it off unless you have a coupler handy or that $200 tool.

I hope i have some luck finding a coupler... i'd gladly pay more than shipping to get one sent to me....if anyone has any spares laying around. I have a funny feeling no one is going to give me one if they can even find a busted, bent one.

I really dont want to ruin the one I have....was that a problem?
 

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next---tried to delete this post ....but no option to delete
 

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I disassembled my entire 270 without a single special tool. Sometimes you just have to get a little creative.

I cannot remember what I did with that nut. I probably used an impact driver which popped it right off.

yes agreed...

actually i am very creative...or i like to think so :) i thought for sure my last wood sandwich with c-clamps would work..... I think I almost need a breaker bar for this nut....its silly.


I may just use the coupler i have.....but I hate using good parts just for resistance.... i think i can figure out a way to not damage it.....
 

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The first time I removed the left hand nut I put the splined coupler on the shaft and held it with a vise and pipe wrench while using a socket on the nut.
Wes

This is exactly what I did for the lower. I couldn't remember if I used this method for the upper too but maybe I did.

If you can borrow an impact gun (battery powered or corded) I highly recommend it. You won't even have to clamp anything down too much, the impacts just break it free.
 

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if i had to do it again.... yes i would leave it attached like your 2nd time. too much of a pain to do it off unless you have a coupler handy or that $200 tool.

I hope i have some luck finding a coupler... i'd gladly pay more than shipping to get one sent to me....if anyone has any spares laying around. I have a funny feeling no one is going to give me one if they can even find a busted, bent one.

I really dont want to ruin the one I have....was that a problem?

There were some minor tooth marks on the coupler left by the pipe wrench, superficial only.

Here is a coupler for $14 including shipping:

Volvo Penta 270 280 Standard Splined Sleeve Coupler | eBay

might fit the DP-A. At that price I think I will buy one too...
 

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great guys.... appreciate the great info.

Ok, this piston? is making me look bad. Actually I'm quite shocked I even have to ask about it.

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I have punched thru alot of pins in my life...... but this one wont move ...or I am just not seeing it right in that little hole. I'm hitting it so hard I have sparks coming off the punch so its not normal.

I mean this is not rocket science.... what am I doing wrong?
 

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This is exactly what I did for the lower. I couldn't remember if I used this method for the upper too but maybe I did.

If you can borrow an impact gun (battery powered or corded) I highly recommend it. You won't even have to clamp anything down too much, the impacts just break it free.

I have an impact gun.... but need a larger socket.... this one is well over an inch.....

let me try after I get the right sized socket... what size is it exactly like 1 1/4? or possibly metric....
 

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I cannot get this pin out.... I have been here for an hour. I cant even believe it really.

can i vice it and push it in first then out?
 

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I have an impact gun.... but need a larger socket.... this one is well over an inch.....

let me try after I get the right sized socket... what size is it exactly like 1 1/4? or possibly metric....

Why are you trying to remove the top nut? You are getting into an area of shims, bearings and gears that you can't do anything about.
 

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I have punched thru alot of pins in my life...... but this one wont move ...or I am just not seeing it right in that little hole. I'm hitting it so hard I have sparks coming off the punch so its not normal.

What the hell are you beating on to cause sparks ??????

The arrow in the picture below shows where the roll pin is, you have to drive it through the horizontal pin that sticks out. It's takes a very small diameter punch, and you normally don't have to hit them very hard.
You've probably already destroyed it inside.

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