see that bush 'wolve' commercial.?

[POINTER94]

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woodrat,<br /><br />My comment was to point out that we continue to become more and more socialistic, not that you or your family is... Please don't be offended my points are theorhetical not personal.<br /><br />I can only hope that increases in oil costs will impact china adversely and make shipping costs high enough to off-set the cost benefit of outsoursing to that side of the world. I agree if we conserve, we can prolong world wide oil reserves, the person who makes an alternative fuel cost effective will make bill gates look like a pauper.

 

[SCO]

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I cant say you are incorrect on any point of your last post Woodrat. And how could I since none of us has 20 20 foresight. We have to rely on our gut in the voting booth . I've enjoyed the discussion.

 

[woodrat]

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Pointer, I'm not offended by your remarks, its just that I've taken so much heat in these forums for not being a bush supporter that I feel like I need to explain how I'm not a democrat, a commie or a terrorist at every turn.<br /><br />re china and shipping costs. I have always been totally amazed as to how an apple from new zealand can cost less in washington state than an apple from washington state. or how it can be cheaper to bring farmed salmon up from chile than to buy it from the columbia river fisherman. Until these kinds of disparities are reversed, we are screwed.

 

[cbnoodles]

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Originally posted by woodrat:<br /> Professor:<br /><br />The USA patriot act, which the repubs crammed through less than two months after 911 includes, among other atrocities, the right for federal agents to come and look at your library records without a warrant AND (this is my favorite part) the librarian is subject to criminal charges if she notifies you that the feds looked at your records. This is one small part of a big fat bunch of new law, that your small government, state's rights, minds their own business party got passed into law, past a prostrate congress who didn't even have a chance to read it before voting on it. <br /><br />before you start ranting about michael moore and the liberal conspiracy to defame the W administration, John Ashcroft himself publicly defends this as a good thing, while at the same time, promising that it won't be used. Riiight. And if Bill Clinton, the devil himself, had proposed such a law, how do you suppose conservatives everywhere would have reacted?<br /><br />BTW, We already have established a couple of times that I a mnot a democrat, or a kerry supporter, or someone named "plywoody". Just to keep things straight.

1. If the Patriot Act were not passed and some sleeper raghead wereto access information via your library and blow your little fifedom to kingdom come, who would you blame? W?<br /><br />2. What did I have to say about Moore or his "conspiracy"?<br /><br />3. Where did I refer to you as anything but Woodrat.<br /><br />You need to open mind, open mouth, retract foot.

 

[cbnoodles]

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Originally posted by Ol' Norse:<br />So what you're saying is that people who publish research in refereed journals reviewed by well-read and credentialed experts in their fields (who have political, religious, and cultural differences that run the gamut) and are based on rational thought and scientific methods offer nothing substantive. Sounds to me like you have no idea how research or academia works, despite your handle, and prefer groundless rhetoric instead.<br />

<br /><br />No. What I'm saying is don't offer the opinions of others as fact to back up your beliefs. If you have no substantive arguments to lend to the argument, then simply post the article and say you agree with it.<br /><br />

The election is about what it is about to each voter. There are voters to whom the election *is* about Iraq (or any other single issue you could choose to put there). I guess what you're really saying here is that it's your opinion that the election should be what you say it is. <br /><br />Woodrat's reference to the happenings in the current Justice Department and legislation such as the Patriot Act should make it clear that the last question you ask is truly rhetorical rather than real.

Fine. It is my OPINION that this election, as is the case with ALL presidential elections, is about governmental style. It is also my OPINION that it is not a wise man who chooses a candidate based on a single or very narrow set of issues.

 

[cbnoodles]

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Originally posted by Ol' Norse:<br />Agenda is already plural in Latin, by the way. There is no "agendae" in English, and there isn't in Latin either, unless you're talking about lupae . <br />

I stand corrected. Thank you. The singular, agendum, is so rarely used that I forgot my Latin grammar. Sorry.

 

[POINTER94]

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quote:<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Originally posted by Ol' Norse:<br />Agenda is already plural in Latin, by the way. There is no "agendae" in English, and there isn't in Latin either, unless you're talking about lupae . <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />I stand corrected. Thank you. The singular, agendum, is so rarely used that I forgot my Latin grammar. Sorry.<br /><br /><br />THE DAY THIS SITE STARTS CORRECTING SPELLING AND GRAMMERICAL ERRORS IS THE DAY I-BOATS TRIPLES THEIR STAFF. WHATS UP WITH THAT?

 

[cbnoodles]

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I wasn't going to say anything, but...

 

[Ralph 123]

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You all know where this ad came from right? Remember Reagan's Bear ad from the 1984? <br /><br />"There is a Bear in the woods. For some the Bear is easy to see. Others don't see it at all. Some say the Bear is tame. Others say it is vicious and dangerous. Since nobody can be sure who it right, isn't it smart to be as strong as the Bear, if there is a Bear?"<br /><br />You can see both of them here:<br /><br /> http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/oh-my.html

 

[12Footer]

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Originally posted by POINTER94:<br /> quote:<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Originally posted by Ol' Norse:<br />Agenda is already plural in Latin, by the way. There is no "agendae" in English, and there isn't in Latin either, unless you're talking about lupae . <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />I stand corrected. Thank you. The singular, agendum, is so rarely used that I forgot my Latin grammar. Sorry.<br /><br /><br />THE DAY THIS SITE STARTS CORRECTING SPELLING AND GRAMMERICAL ERRORS IS THE DAY I-BOATS TRIPLES THEIR STAFF. WHATS UP WITH THAT?

It never fails. If they can no longer debate the issues rationally, they challenge your education or intelligence. <br />How many times have I seen them do this? enough to know its a fact.

 

[gsbodine]

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Originally posted by 12Footer:<br />

Originally posted by POINTER94:<br /> quote:<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Originally posted by Ol' Norse:<br />Agenda is already plural in Latin, by the way. There is no "agendae" in English, and there isn't in Latin either, unless you're talking about lupae . <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />I stand corrected. Thank you. The singular, agendum, is so rarely used that I forgot my Latin grammar. Sorry.<br /><br /><br />THE DAY THIS SITE STARTS CORRECTING SPELLING AND GRAMMERICAL ERRORS IS THE DAY I-BOATS TRIPLES THEIR STAFF. WHATS UP WITH THAT? <br />

That's why I'm helping 'em out where I can. <br />

<br />It never fails. If they can no longer debate the issues rationally, they challenge your education or intelligence. <br />How many times have I seen them do this? enough to know its a fact.

Who is this "they"? I don't know whether to assume that's aimed at me since I'm quoted above or what. I guess I should. Do most people on here assume that every response to every post has to be political in nature and labeled as conservative or liberal? That was an aside (note the BTW and wink) to the rest of the rant, not that that makes any difference to your overgeneralizing response. Not everything is political, despite all the efforts leading up to Election Day. My post had little to do with politics, as I generally prefer not to talk about them in contexts such as this. It seems to me that there are few posters here, if any, who are undecided or apt to change their minds. <br /><br />At least you can't say nobody takes this stuff seriously here.

 

[jinx]

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I haven't seen the first campaign commercial this year! Nobody is spending any money in Virginia.<br /><br />Jinx

 

[achris]

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I don't approve of political jokes!<br /><br />.<br /><br />.<br /><br />.<br /><br />.<br /><br />.<br /><br />.<br /><br />.<br /><br />I've seem too many get elected.......

 

[SCO]

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yer right 12, definitely a pattern. Comes from the eliteist nature of the beast. IMHO, it is not intelligent to put too much stock in ones own intelligence. Not directed at you ol Norse, just commenting on the general pattern that many of us have noticed in the likes of hollywood, M Moore, etc.