Rec gas prices???

[racerone]

Agreed-----Mismanagement / theft of public funds is not just a 3rd world problem.------Corruption is everywhere Including your eastern province.

 

[alldodge]

Oil goes up fast and so does price of gas
Oil dropped from 130+ to under 100, lets see how long it takes for gas to low (not drop, it never drops )

 

[tpenfield]

Oil goes up fast and so does price of gas
Oil dropped from 130+ to under 100, lets see how long it takes for gas to low (not drop, it never drops )

I know . . . commodity prices for oil and gasoline spiked up and then dropped just as quickly. It might take some time to see retail pricing to come back down as well.

If 'we' could reduce our demand for gasoline by 10-15%, it could go a long way on the demand side of things. I would think supply will still be tight tough if Russian has nowehere to export their oil into the world supply.

However, I spent a few days out in California, and despite the highest gasoline prices in the nation . . . I don't see anyone driving reasonably slow on the freeway. I did notice a lot more compact cars though. It's either a Honda Civic or a pick-up truck

 

[JimS123]

yep, roughly 3% reduction in power using E10 vs E0 or 3% less economy.

So, on a purely cost basis, the E0 should cost 3% more. But that isn't the case. It's MUCH more, at least where I live. Thus, if your car runs satisfactorily on E10, that is more "cost effective" fuel.

I have an older car and the Owner's Manual says it requires "Unleaded Gas".....LOL. Remember when the 2 pumps were leaded and unleaded? Well, that old girl has been running E10 for many years now. Even as a towcar it still has enough oomph to pull a 3000 pound boat.

 

[KJM]

Gas has actually gone down here faster then I thought it would! Its 1.78/L here today. Almost back to "normal"....

 

[BWR1953]

Gas has actually gone down here faster then I thought it would! Its 1.78/L here today. Almost back to "normal"....

Yup, back down to $3.99/gal. here today. Down from $4.39/gal. just a few days ago.

 

[KJM]

Yup, back down to $3.99/gal. here today. Down from $4.39/gal. just a few days ago.

I spoke too soon, the price went up again last night over 8 cents/L, now 1.87/L....I wish they would make up their mind!

 

[tpenfield]

Situations like this should remind us that each of us can be financially vulnerable if we have a high consumption (usage) of fuel.

There is the 'price' of fuel and the 'cost' of fuel. Cost = Price x Usage.

As prices go up, as they can/will, usage is the only thing that individuals can adjust in order to (or at least try to) maintain cost at an affordable level.

It seems that we mostly hear about the price, and little about the usage.

 

[dingbat]

It seems that we mostly hear about the price, and little about the usage.

That is because nondiscretionary usage is typically fixed. The variable is fuel prices.

I burn 12 gallons of gas a week commuting to the office. Burn 150 gallons of diesel a year in the tractor mowing and what not. Burn 180 gallons “diesel” a month to heat the house, etc.

Discretionary fuel cost don’t make the top 20 in annual household expenditures.

 

[Scott Danforth]

I put 500 miles a week commuting for work. That is 20 gallons of gas per week for 50ish weeks a year

Then there is maintenance and rec

 

[tpenfield]

Exactly, that is how most of us look at it . . . usage is fixed and nothing can be done about it. In the short term, maybe so. In the longer term maybe not.

BTW - In my almost weekly driving to the summer house, I reduced my fuel consumption by about 30% in response to the higher gasoline prices.

 

[KJM]

I put 500 miles a week commuting for work. That is 20 gallons of gas per week for 50ish weeks a year

Then there is maintenance and rec

Wow, thats a long commute, how long does it take one way?

 

[tpenfield]

I put 500 miles a week commuting for work. That is 20 gallons of gas per week for 50ish weeks a year

Then there is maintenance and rec

I assume 50 miles each way

Is Taco a lot further away than your previous job?

 

[Scott Danforth]

I assume 50 miles each way

Is Taco a lot further away than your previous job?

Two facilities, one 2 doors down, the other 4 blocks away.. Same commute as before

 

[tpenfield]

Two facilities, one 2 doors down, the other 4 blocks away.. Same commute as before

I used to do a 55 mile (one-way) commute . . . my car would avg. about 28 mpg, so 4 gallons /day. Then I also did some travel during the day between our various locations, which was reimbursed. Even worse than the gasoline cost was putting over 100K miles on my car in about 3 years.


Since 2009, I've been commuting into 'the city' (Boston) via train and don't put much mileage on the car(s). Covid has helped in that regard, since most of the work has been remote.

I wonder if the higher fuel prices will push the DOT to increase mpg standards (fleet mileage)?

 

[Scott Danforth]

I wonder if the higher fuel prices will push the DOT to increase mpg standards (fleet mileage)?

since I dont buy new vehicles, that wont help me

the daily whip gets about 30mpg if I drive it like my mother, or about 20mpg if I drive it like I rented it. averaging 25-28mpg depending on the tank (yet the on-board computer says 27-30mpg, however math says different) mainly for the stop-n-go traffic which makes up 50% of my commute. truck gets 17mph on the same loop

Florida is not big on park and rides or I would meet up with a few other co-workers and ride share. problem is we all live about 15 miles from each other in variing directions and would need to meet up near one of the exits. since there is no place to park, that is out of the question.

 

[tpenfield]

since I dont buy new vehicles, that wont help me

the daily whip gets about 30mpg if I drive it like my mother, or about 20mpg if I drive it like I rented it. averaging 25-28mpg depending on the tank (yet the on-board computer says 27-30mpg, however math says different) mainly for the stop-n-go traffic which makes up 50% of my commute. truck gets 17mph on the same loop

Florida is not big on park and rides or I would meet up with a few other co-workers and ride share. problem is we all live about 15 miles from each other in variing directions and would need to meet up near one of the exits. since there is no place to park, that is out of the question.

Yes, you'll have to wait until more fuel efficient cars get to the aftermarket.

I bought a 2015 BMW 5 Series Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) back in 2019. It has a 2.0 litre bi-turbo. I'm able to get better mileage than my prior C230, which was a 2006 model.

The Admiral's car (Explorer) has the regular 3.5 litre V6, and it is tough to get much more than 23-25 mpg. Of course, she drives it like she stole it, as does the rest of her family with their cars.

 

[froggy1150]

Yes, you'll have to wait until more fuel efficient cars get to the aftermarket.

I bought a 2015 BMW 5 Series Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) back in 2019. It has a 2.0 litre bi-turbo. I'm able to get better mileage than my prior C230, which was a 2006 model.

The Admiral's car (Explorer) has the regular 3.5 litre V6, and it is tough to get much more than 23-25 mpg. Of course, she drives it like she stole it, as does the rest of her family with their cars.

2013 3.6ltr Cadillac cts.15mpg tops from the dash display. That's the true definition of "drive it like you stole it".

 

[alldodge]

2012 srx avg 24 with same motor

 

[Scott Danforth]

I still say, drive it like you rented it

fastest car in the world