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cyclops222

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SOO correct. Volunteers are fantastic people !!!!
Let us NOT LET them jump into anything that could injure or kill them !!!!!
Where is OSHA when we really need them to protect VOLUNTEERS.
 

DeepCMark58A

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SOO correct. Volunteers are fantastic people !!!!
Let us NOT LET them jump into anything that could injure or kill them !!!!!
Where is OSHA when we really need them to protect VOLUNTEERS.
My understanding this kid was a state parks employee. Don't get me started on OSHA and wildfires and protecting woodland firefighters.
 

Pmt133

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If they started doing that, the state would have to care. Much easier to have like 80% of your fire fighting force be entirely unpaid as then it's easier to turn a blind eye... yeah don't get me started either... :rolleyes:
 

aspeck

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As a volunteer, if we avail ourselves there is plenty of training. Wild fires can be quite dangerous ... between wind shifts, rugged terrain, and lack of water, oh and don't forget exhaustion and heat. Special care is needed, but sometimes that care is lacking.

As for arson, that is sometimes hard to prove in a wildfire, but sometimes it is very easy ... like when you find the flare that started it. Have had too many wildfires started by volunteers because of the rush they get fighting them. As for me, when I was younger I was all over them. Now I just let the young bucks do the grunt work ... been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.
 

FLATHEAD

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looks like a good time to go hunting for arrow heads or fossils, maybe a metal detector for lost jewelry.
In the local reservoir a picnic table was exposed that washed down during a flood a few years back. It was from a VFW about seven miles away. When they went down to retrieve it a gun was found nearby. That state police took the gun.
 

DeepCMark58A

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As a volunteer, if we avail ourselves there is plenty of training. Wild fires can be quite dangerous ... between wind shifts, rugged terrain, and lack of water, oh and don't forget exhaustion and heat. Special care is needed, but sometimes that care is lacking.

As for arson, that is sometimes hard to prove in a wildfire, but sometimes it is very easy ... like when you find the flare that started it. Have had too many wildfires started by volunteers because of the rush they get fighting them. As for me, when I was younger I was all over them. Now I just let the young bucks do the grunt work ... been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.

I worked for DNR Forestry for 23 years. I covered the state as well as 2 countries and 11 states on wildfire. I was a ground pounder, an engine boss, crew boss, water handling specialist. I would go west as a leader of a 20 person crew multiple times every summer. I have been on a wildfire every month of the year. When I started the leaders told us all the nasties will clear your body in 2 weeks, by the time I retired they told us we needed to shower and wash our gear and clothes after every shift.

I will never forget the good times and things I got to see working wildfire, not sure it was worth parkensons disease and liver failure.
 

Pmt133

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As a volunteer, if we avail ourselves there is plenty of training. Wild fires can be quite dangerous ... between wind shifts, rugged terrain, and lack of water, oh and don't forget exhaustion and heat. Special care is needed, but sometimes that care is lacking.

As for arson, that is sometimes hard to prove in a wildfire, but sometimes it is very easy ... like when you find the flare that started it. Have had too many wildfires started by volunteers because of the rush they get fighting them. As for me, when I was younger I was all over them. Now I just let the young bucks do the grunt work ... been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.
Or the guy firing incendiary shells into the berm of a range during a statewide fire ban... Sometimes they make it pretty easy...
 

aspeck

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Just (like 4 hours ago) had 2 fires started along the major highway going through here ... about 2 miles apart and called in about 5 minutes apart ... my guess is someone throwing matches or other incendiary devices out the window of the car as they drove by ... too close to each other for discarded butts from the same vehicle ...
 

cyclops222

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Do forest fires waste loads of tax money ?
Do fire fighters Need a lifetime major medical plan ?
Many thanks to all volunteers !! (y)(y)(y)(y)
 

aspeck

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Our county just issued a first ever county wide burn ban ...
 

cyclops222

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N J where I live.
NO small birds or animals left. Not even buzzards ! No food or water & hot sunny days & nights. The almost constant N E High Pressure fronts are diverting all rain to the south of N J.
 

FLATHEAD

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N J where I live.
NO small birds or animals left. Not even buzzards ! No food or water & hot sunny days & nights. The almost constant N E High Pressure fronts are diverting all rain to the south of N J.
Long range forecast is bleak.
 

Pmt133

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Our reservoir at work is about 1/3 to empty as of this morning. Not good.
 

aspeck

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Hey, it is raining! Been a slight drizzle for the last 4 hours. Not a lot of rain, but no run off … it is all soaking in. Yay!
 

Pmt133

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It's native to this area but I personally don't see an abundance of it around me. Down further in the pinelands it is more common. I typically just see regular moss.
 

tphoyt

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We are finally getting some much needed rain here and most every one I have seen today is complaining about the weather.
I don’t get it.
 
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