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US men's hockey beat Germany today. US is 3-0
Monobob sleds only weigh 10#s less than the 2 woman sleds, 365#s.
Cost is another issue:
Mono - $15k
Bobsled - $70k
Monos are cookie cutter, it's up to the pilot.....
 

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Watching men's large hill final ski jump replay on Peacock. Won't waste my time watching network stuff.
 

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Ya know, I like calling Women's Single Bobsled by the term Monobob.
 

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This seems messed up. The courts ruled that she won't be provisionally suspended. The IOC said, if she wins a medal there will be no ceremony. So the other 2 medallists won't get to have their medal ceremony. How fair is that to other countries? There won't be a full investigation till who knows when where she could be stripped of any medals and other countries could move up on the podium. What a mess, make a decision.....
One tends to wonder if they're afraid to ban her from competition given tensions in the Ukraine... Far fetched? Is it? Putin did attend the open ceremony....

 

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Putin shared a box with Xi during the open ceremony...... Seemed real chummy.

She was caught, she should get the punishment. This just another delay for no reason.
 

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If they DQ her the gold medal from the team event would go from Russia to the USA. It also opens the door for other possible medals for the US.
 

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BREAKING: Olympic officials admit concern over North Korean bobsleigh

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This seems messed up. The courts ruled that she won't be provisionally suspended. The IOC said, if she wins a medal there will be no ceremony. So the other 2 medallists won't get to have their medal ceremony. How fair is that to other countries? There won't be a full investigation till who knows when where she could be stripped of any medals and other countries could move up on the podium. What a mess, make a decision.....
One tends to wonder if they're afraid to ban her from competition given tensions in the Ukraine... Far fetched? Is it? Putin did attend the open ceremony....

It is messed up, but 2 things are at play here other than the political ramifications ... the fact that she is only 15 (the Olympic Committees see someone who is under 16 as not accountable for their actions, only the coaches and handlers), and the fact that she tested negative for the substance for the Olympics. The positive test was back on Christmas Day, Dec 25th, 2021. If she did not have the negative test for the Olympics I we would be all over this. If the lab had processed her test in a timely manner and not taken a month and a half to do it, she would be suspended and wouldn't be at the Olympics, but the lab delayed because of COVID tests or whatever the reason and she tested negative so she could join the Olympic athletes. So now what do you do? It does get a bit gray ...
 

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It is messed up, but 2 things are at play here other than the political ramifications ... the fact that she is only 15 (the Olympic Committees see someone who is under 16 as not accountable for their actions, only the coaches and handlers), and the fact that she tested negative for the substance for the Olympics. The positive test was back on Christmas Day, Dec 25th, 2021. If she did not have the negative test for the Olympics I we would be all over this. If the lab had processed her test in a timely manner and not taken a month and a half to do it, she would be suspended and wouldn't be at the Olympics, but the lab delayed because of COVID tests or whatever the reason and she tested negative so she could join the Olympic athletes. So now what do you do? It does get a bit gray ...
We know the kid didn't take the banned substance on her own, it was the coaches or trainers that gave it to her. Maybe that's an assumption, but I doubt it. It's still really sad that athletes who qualify for medals will not get their moment in the spotlight, nor receive their medals till after a full investigation. Which will more than likely not end until way after the Olympics. That's the main rub, at least as far as I'm concerned....
 

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Technology.----I was not there but long ago they may have said----" there is something in that water / blood "-----Some years ago science learned to measure in " parts / million "-----Now they measure in parts / billion.------So today we can detect stuff with sophisticated testing.----The question is " how long has it been going on "
 

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We know the kid didn't take the banned substance on her own, it was the coaches or trainers that gave it to her. Maybe that's an assumption, but I doubt it. It's still really sad that athletes who qualify for medals will not get their moment in the spotlight, nor receive their medals till after a full investigation. Which will more than likely not end until way after the Olympics. That's the main rub, at least as far as I'm concerned....
Don't disagree with you at all ... I don't like the whole decision and feel the other athletes are being robbed because the Russian team has not learned their lesson when it comes to doping athletes. I was just stating the different nuances of this ruling and why we are where we are. There are a lot of sides to consider. There is also this 15 year old's side ... she was probably given something she was not told what it was. Although she tested positive from a sample in December that wasn't revealed until mid February, she took a test the beginning of Feb/end of January and was negative. Is it fair to strip her of medals that she won when she was not under the influence of the drug ... or was the influence there even though the presence of the drug was not???? There seem to be more questions than answers and no fair solutions for EVERYONE.
 

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Don't disagree with you at all ... I don't like the whole decision and feel the other athletes are being robbed because the Russian team has not learned their lesson when it comes to doping athletes. I was just stating the different nuances of this ruling and why we are where we are. There are a lot of sides to consider. There is also this 15 year old's side ... she was probably given something she was not told what it was. Although she tested positive from a sample in December that wasn't revealed until mid February, she took a test the beginning of Feb/end of January and was negative. Is it fair to strip her of medals that she won when she was not under the influence of the drug ... or was the influence there even though the presence of the drug was not???? There seem to be more questions than answers and no fair solutions for EVERYONE.
Agree. I feel sorry for the ROC kid too. She represents a country where you will win at any cost. She's in a no win situation.....
 

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Men’s hockey quarter finals … Slovakia has been out skating the US, but both teams playing well and fast back and forth across the ice. At the end of the first period it is tied, 1-1 because of a sweet US goal with 47 seconds remaining in the period.
 

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Agree. I feel sorry for the ROC kid too. She represents a country where you will win at any cost. She's in a no win situation.....
Tara and Johnny were ripping the kid. It was nice to hear some announcers with a spine about it …
 

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At the end of 2 periods, 2-1 USA! Slovakia is the best team we have played so far.
 

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Slovakia tied it at 2 with 43 seconds left. I want to go to bed! Come on US team, win this one!
 
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