Ohio to vote on being Smoker Free

[Haut Medoc]

Re: Ohio to vote on being Smoker Free

I'm with ya! .....JK

 

[imported_Curmudgeon]

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.. but Whats wrong with having designated areas within restaurants, stores, the workplace and such for smokers?<br /><br />Because there are those who are offended by smoking who might venture into such a place. If I own an establisment, I should be able to smoke there if I wish; if someone is offended by my smoke, teach me a freakiin lesson by going somewhere else! It really isn't rocket science. Good luck, Ohio, Big Brother is coming ever closer ...

 

[Haut Medoc]

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"OC", again, this is voter initiative......Not the legislature......This is his neighbors doing the petitioning & voting......I agree that this is a bad trend....Majority rule a'int always so good when you are the one getting the shi**y end of the stick......JK

 

[KRS]

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Originally posted by SS Mayfloat:<br />....I just hate it when people try to save me from myself without thinking about their own life....[/QB]

I understand what you are saying, but I think they are trying to save ME from YOU, not YOU from YOU. I personally don't think it's a stop smoking initiative, it's a don't subject me to smoke from others.

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

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Okay Pony, I went into the "WHO" website. There is NOT anything that backs up what I had heard on the radio. While I was there, I did read up on some stuff that they are doing for the fight of tobacco. Apparently this is a world wide effort to curb the addition and use of tobacco. Sorry for hearing bad info from the radio. Can't always believe what the media has to say.<br /><br />BTW, this topic was to be on state wide smoking ban. All I wanted to know was about being able to smoke in your boat out on the lakes or outside at a campsite. This was not to be intended as a good/bad of smoking. Thanks,,,,,,I'm done......SS

 

[Haut Medoc]

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To S.S.: QUITTER! .....JK

 

[one more cast]

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I also agree that the owners should have the choice as long as the employees are aware of it when they fill out their job application. As far as a smoke free state, that should also include no cars,trucks, boats,motorcycles,snowmobiles,go carts,burn barrels,furnaces,woodstoves, campfires,......kind of foolish if you ask me.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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O.M.C......Doesn't N.Y.C. have a similar ban?.....I was there last Jan.....Yikes!, time flies!.....JK

 

[one more cast]

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Haut Medoc, NYC is about 5 hours SSE of me and I have only been there 1 time and that was to visit the statue of liberty. I am a country boy and we don't like too many rules.

 

[DJ]

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What do we do about the guy next to you in the restaurant that has body odor. Or, the woman with too much perfume on? Some perfumes/deoderants have been proven to be carcinagens also. Now what?<br /><br />Some anti smoke zealots I know are all for pot smoking. What the %^&*?<br /><br />We, as a society, DO NOT have the right to not be offended. Especially on PRIVATE property.<br /><br />The beauty of private property rights is that they are PRIVATE. For now.<br /><br />As SS mentioned, driving down the highway has far greater hazards (emissions) than smoke from the car in front of you. But, those emissions do not have a following, or a lobby.<br /><br />As with most, this is an EMOTIONAL issue, facts be damned.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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I think that women who wear too much perfume or those who have B.O.....Should be warned first and then shot! Well, maybe B.O. should just be a flogging offense after 5 p.m.....Nothing is worse than an elevator, a hangover, & a woman with too much perfume! YUCK! OMC, you should try it once in awhile, though I will admit that I do like the Finger Lakes .....JK

 

[QC]

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Originally posted by DJ:<br /> As SS mentioned, driving down the highway has far greater hazards (emissions) than smoke from the car in front of you. But, those emissions do not have a following, or a lobby.<br />

I agree with everything DJ (SS too) has said except that They absolutely have a lobby effort. It's the same people that forced GM to build the EV1 and they are just as bad as the anti-smoking zealots, the anti-fat in food fanatics, the anti-war fanatics, the anti-ANYTHING people. Warning! Warning! Totally supportable generalization coming . . .<br /><br /> All anti-anything, fanatical groups lie! <br /><br />I don't trust anything that comes out of their mouths no matter what the issue is. And it is their lies that shape public policy. They exaggerate every threat to promote their position. Why? Because they know what is best for all of us. We are too stupid to know better, so it is OK (in fact noble) to lie. Their morality comes from their beliefs as much as a religious person's does In their book a lie is OK.

 

[DJ]

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This is such a stupid argument. <br /><br />If smoking is so bad for society, then why doesn't government ban tobacco?<br /><br />Why? Follow the $$$$$! Tobacco taxes are a huge benefit to the government coffers. Obviously, not many politicians have ever taken an economics course. <br /><br />Go ahead Ohio, ban smoking. What's left of your population will just end up here, with the rest of them.<br /><br />The tax base is shrinking, but the politicians are too ignorant to see it. I pity anyone that decides to stay there.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Did I mention that it was a voter initiative?.... JK

 

[DJ]

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Did I mention that it was a voter initiative?....

Yes you did, more than once, I believe. However, you do not mention by what margin it passed. <br /><br />However, no government will EVER allow the banning of tobacco to hit the ballot. They can't afford to skewer that cash cow.<br /><br />That is why this is such a nonsensical argument.<br />Government is speaking out of both sides of its collective mouth. Not unusual for a "collective" style government.<br /><br />Not to worry. There won't be anybody left there to offend or tax anyway.

 

[QC]

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Originally posted by Haut Medoc:<br /> Did I mention that it was a voter initiative?.... JK

Yes, and they have been lied to . . .

 

[JRJ]

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Originally posted by azfyrfyter63:<br />

Originally posted by SS Mayfloat:<br />....I just hate it when people try to save me from myself without thinking about their own life....

I understand what you are saying, but I think they are trying to save ME from YOU, not YOU from YOU. I personally don't think it's a stop smoking initiative, it's a don't subject me to smoke from others. [/QB]

az, you got it right I guess SS was worried that he wouldn't be able to smoke in his own boat. Sure you can, would be nice if you don't flip the butts in the water though. A polite smoker doesn't flip butts anywhere. Smashing them on concrete is ugly also.

 

[QC]

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Originally posted by JRJ:<br /> would be nice if you don't flip the butts in the water though. A polite smoker doesn't flip butts anywhere. Smashing them on concrete is ugly also.

There are already laws against all of that that . . .

 

[Pony]

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Let me just say before anyone misinterprets my words......<br /><br />I don't agree with a statewide ban on smoking in public places. If you want to smoke on a boat, or walking on a sidewalk, or in a park........I am fine with that. It is a smokers right to choose to smoke and it shouldnt be taken away.<br /><br />The only times I think that the smokers rights should be compromised is inside of public buildings and restaurants. This to me is simply because of the close vacinity of the non smoker and the smoke, and the fact that it is more dense in the air.<br /><br />My rant is over, I have said my piece.

 

[SoulWinner]

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In my opinion, (yeah I know....who the he11 cares about MY opinion) a non-smoking section in a restaurant is like a non-peeing section in a public pool. Where is the WHO's position on swiming in a soup of strangers p1ss?<br /><br />As a smoker and as a capitalist, the final decision should be made by the OWNER of the business. Government can regulate government owned and operated places, but private businesses should strictly off limits. This IS America remember????