New guy, floor repair questions

Racer223

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New here, new to boats, so I'm trying to decide what to do here...
TL;DR, we live near the lake, been using kayaks and canoe for a while but I have some severe damage to the shoulder, waiting for surgery and then 6-12 month recovery, so I decided to get a boat so we can still enjoy the lake. Only access is through the boat ramp so unless you own lakefront property or some flotation device you're SOL...
Did some research, wanted a wooden boat but I will not be able to do any work for a while so I settled on cheap and convenient 14' bowrider that was for sale few miles away, came with a Honda BF50 which is probably worth what I paid for the whole package (motor needed work, but it's all set now)

I would like to upload photos but some server error is blocking it, so I'll do my best to describe it.
Hull is fiberglass, made in 1988 by Aquasport, branded as Laval Sport or sprint, it's 14.5', 60 hp maximum, with 666kg total capacity motor, gear, passengers. Internet search shows nothing, except some company has a dead link with that name, so I assume it's worthless...Upholstery is junk, all the seats on the front need to be remade, seats in the middle (whatever you call that part, like drivers seat, total trash, rotten through and through, so I tossed them. Pulled up the carpet and the fiberglass looks good but it has cracks on both sides, right near the edge, about where the seat would end and drivers seat would be, going forward. Floor feels solid but when I installed a cheap captain's chair screws pulled out with some soft, wet wood (I assume) so I'm guessing the floor is wet and rotten under the fiberglass.
Didn't help that when I launched the boat few weeks ago, maybe my second time out on the boat, and with game warden watching, I forgot the drain plug and nearly sunk the boat, had water coming over the top of the transom where the cut out for the motor is. Pulld it out, drained it and all seems well.
Boat seems quick with me and one other person in it, with two passengers (my GF and my son) it still gets up on the plane but struggles to do so, so I'm guessing it might be waterlogged?
I did the math, 666kg is 1468 lbs, motor is about 220 lbs and other misc gear is probably another 100, so safe to say it still should carry at least 1000 lbs and the 3 of us are about 500 lbs total, so with 50hp I assume it should easily get up on the plane? I think with couple more people on board it will sink, definitely not gonna get on the plane...
It doesn't seem to sit too deep, doesn't leak much (a quart of water will drain after all day in the water)
I'm OK with this boat, although wouldn't mind something bigger, big waves in Sebago are a challenge, also it's cramped with 3 people and a dog, can't imagine having 4 or 5 passengers.
Gelcoat has some cracks around transom, also come damage on the bottom from trailer, small area maybe 2" that is worn out through gelcoat and down to the fiberglass, plus it needs seats, carpet etc... wondering if I should cut the losses and find another hull, keep the engine and trailer and swap it over or try to repair it because anything cheap and old will be in the same rough shape?
Not doing anything this year, except maybe some small repairs and upholstery (if I'm keeping it) will have to wait till I recover from surgery. For now I'm just gonna keep using it as long as I can (till snow flies) but I would like to know if it's a dead end and I should start looking for something else.
 

Racer223

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Wear a life jacket at all times and stick close to shore.
Good advice LOL, we do that anyway.
It doesn't take in much water (quart maybe in a whole day) was stored in the water for years, people we bought it from live on the island and used it to get to and from, never had a problem.
Also bilge pump works well, I tested it :)
I grew up and spent most of my life near water, windsurfing, etc, just never had a boat before, just Kayaks and Canoes...
 

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Hull structure is rotted and will fail, that is the reason behind the "wear your life jacket" comment. It will cost thousands to fix up your boat even doing all the work yourself. Best bet is to scrap it and find an aluminum hull that you can fix up.
 

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Sounds like a classic full gut and restore is needed. If you're having surgery, you probably won't be able to do it yourself, and paying someone is going to be shockingly expensive. My boat took 18 months and about $10K to restore...probably could have done it for $6K if I had cut some corners. Much of the 18 months was 30-40 hrs/wk working on it. If all this sounds like a no-go for you, pull the engine and scrap the boat. Scrapping might cost you a few hundred dollars...check with your local dump.
 

Scott Danforth

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^× 1000000

He is right.

A simple hull restoration is about $4000 with today's prices ,(no motor or interior)
 

Racer223

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Just to be clear, the cracks are in the horizontal part of the floor, before it meets the vertical part, it's kind of bulging up as if something swell up inside, and it's a single crack that's about a foot or two long on either side of the boat, outside of the hall looks pretty clean except for some hairline cracks in the gelcoat on a transom, figured those were just stress cracks from 30 plus years of flexing under the force of the engine.
I've seen a bunch of videos of people replacing floors, looks pretty easy in video. Cut the fiberglass throw in a new sheet of plywood, Replace the foam if needed. Glue the fiberglass back on...
Sounds easy but I question anything I see on the Tube
 

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Should have bought a good looking Aluminum open fishboat. With a standard 20 " transom.
Make sure you boat in water that you can safely stand in. With your Cellphone in a freezer bag that seals the phone from water. Keep it in your pocket. Wear a life jacket ALL the time. Have a motorized anchor installed. DO NOT go out alone !! Or in iffy weather.
 

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You've got to think past the floors - the wooden structure (stringers and bulkheads) under the floor, the transom, and the engine mounts are likely all rotten. If you've got an hour, click the link in my signature and scroll through my rebuild thread, and note the timeline. It's totally doable....heck I did it, but you have to be realistic about the extent of work to be done, how much it's gonna cost, and how long it's gonna take. Having now redone a boat, with you having a shoulder you can't use, I wouldn't recommend taking it on yourself.
 

Racer223

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You've got to think past the floors - the wooden structure (stringers and bulkheads) under the floor, the transom, and the engine mounts are likely all rotten. If you've got an hour, click the link in my signature and scroll through my rebuild thread, and note the timeline. It's totally doable....heck I did it, but you have to be realistic about the extent of work to be done, how much it's gonna cost, and how long it's gonna take. Having now redone a boat, with you having a shoulder you can't use, I wouldn't recommend taking it on yourself.
I like fixing things, rebuilt my 18 year old sled and 14 year old ATV, mechanical restoration mostly because that's what I know how to do.
I got this boat cheap because engine needed some attention and had the engine running and seaworthy before the weekend was over, but while I understand engines the rest of the boat is a mystery...
Should I just get a Boston Whaler because it seems they are always worth something, so fixing one up is not as big of a time waste was fixing some no-name boat?
I definitely want to keep boating, not entirely opposed to a floating cocktail longe aka pontoon, only intend to use in the lake near the house, fishing with the kid or just a beach day with a doggo without having a beach...
 

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Some models of B W boats are BAD news about soaking up water. In the OPEN CELL foam used in them.
Aluminum hull with 3 or 4 Aluminum full width bench seating. Foam flotation is under the seats. The seats allow 2 people to sit side by side for excellent level boat stopped or on plane.
Are you buying to fix and sell ?
 

Racer223

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Some models of B W boats are BAD news about soaking up water. In the OPEN CELL foam used in them.
Aluminum hull with 3 or 4 Aluminum full width bench seating. Foam flotation is under the seats. The seats allow 2 people to sit side by side for excellent level boat stopped or on plane.
Are you buying to fix and sell ?
I just want something I can take out on the lake with family and fish or swim...
 

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Or, an aluminum hull boat that has no rotted wood with the exception of a transom board that is easy to replace. Aluminum doesn't rot, look around at the aluminum boats still around from the 60's and 70's and before and much easier/ cheaper to rebuild and fix.
 

Racer223

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A damaged body and a damaged boat ? Wasting your boating time.
Hopefully I'll be back to normal within a year, been nursing this shoulder for 14 years since the accident and now at the point where it severely impacts my day-to-day, so it's getting fixed. But I still work every day, being self-employed I have no other choice.
Try to get on the water every chance I get, having a motor became a requirement, last year I was still using paddles
 

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@Racer223 - Hopefully the picture upload feature will be fixed soon and you can upload some photos. That way we can see what you are seeing.

As mentioned, the boat is probably saturated. Post the the HIN that can be found on the upper starboard side of the transom, if you have any questions about the boat brand, but I assume it is the Sprint model listed in this link.

https://www.jdpower.com/boats/1988/aquasport-laval-boats

Not sure with your shoulder issue, you will be fixing this boat any time soon, but maybe.
 

Scott Danforth

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Mandatory restoration reading in the stickies.


read links 14, 15, 18, 13, 2, 3, 4a, and 4b (preferably in that order). look at tall the pics, watch all the how-to videos.
 
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