neighbor ruined my laptop.... what to do...

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avenger79

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I would be willing to bet everyone of us seen you had a durabook. it's still 3 years old, custom or not, BUT if it's impervious to water how did the ATF get in it?

lucky for you you have a better then most neighbor.
 

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It seems Jason got what he wanted. Good thing the guy was an older gent....thats just the way most of them are.

Jason, ya got lucky.
 

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Yup, those older retiree's are stand up people.
 

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Jason,

I knew exactly what type of computer you were talking about, we used them in the Military BEFORE they were ever available to the public. And yes, you had a USED computer, there is no reason you should require a new computer, I am glad you and your neighbor got it worked out, he is a stand up guy.

But don't assume because many of us had a different take on things than you, that we didn't know what you had and how they are built.!
 

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Sorry jason, but the way I see it , you said this was a work "tool" the only person it had value to was you since you have most likely depreciated it close to zero for tax purposes. Yes , the data is invaluable, it is a major pain in the a** to move around but doable. I believe you succeeded in upgrading to a new computer at your neighbors expense old or young.
 

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The guy stand up and is the type of neighbour everyone should hope for.
 

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I believe you succeeded in upgrading to a new computer at your neighbors expense old or young.

^^^ X2

I can't justify full replacement cost, even if you have to monkey around moving data back-forth.

At the most, the guy is responsible for repair cost of the old laptop.

Splitting the cost of a new one seems fair to me.
 

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Everything Depreciates!

Now, that that is said... You should go 50/50 or some % with your neighbor. I'm sure what ever your computer cost you 3 years ago would be a lot less today based on the processor, etc.

The new one you are getting will have the latest processors, memory, OS and programs.

There are a couple of nice used Durobooks on Ebay for under $600...
 
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You shouldnt use a lap top like it was a repair manual. Ever notice how repair manuals get dirty when you use them? Best to make a copy of the pictures/info you need and then take it to the work area. Maybe his home owners insurance will pay for it but maybe not....Like others said you shouldnt ask for more than half of what it will cost to to place it with A USED ONE.. a coupler hundred at the most..sorry
 

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Personally, I'm glad you live in Mass......:(

You came on here with an attitude. I sure hope that same attitude does you well in life. You were hell bent on getting a new laptop and it appears you got what you wanted. The fact you seemed so rightous through this whole ordeal would make me not want to be your neighbor...
 

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Fairlainman - I am meticulous with my equipment. I rarely even get fingerprints on it as I wear latex goves when using it in the field. And it is not just using it for manuals. With Diacom I plug this laptop into engines. I order parts, do emails, do everything. I need to bring it onto boats. Thats the reason I spent 1500 bucks on it in the first place. I wanted a good one and was willing to pay for it. 3 years ago 1500 was alot for a laptop, still is today.

Triumphrick - Hey neighbor!! With the move i've been so busy and forgot to change my location.

Again guys with the ebay. You don't know what you get from ebay until after you pay for it.
That was how this fiasco started in the first place. Neighbor purchased a "new" trim pump from ebay. All the valves in it are stuck. It may have been new, but it was probably sitting on a shelf for 10 years.

Besides, what recourse would I have had if I agreed to an ebay unit. And for whatever reason that ebay unit lasted 3 weeks and crapped out, where would I have been then?

Sure this new laptop has better specs, and the latest and greatest hardware wise. If Durabook made one that was identicle to mine, with the same cpu, hard drive and ram specs, I would have been fine with that. But they don't.
3 years ago they made a laptop for 1500 bucks that I bought. Today they make a laptop for 1500 bucks that has better specs for the same amount of money. Thats not my problem, nor my fault.

You know, its funny listening to alot of your opinions. Saying my neighbor only should pay 1/2 of its depreciated cost. That is the same thing as saying if you break something of somebody elses, you would only be willing to pay 1/2 of what you think its worth.

How about I come over, test drive your BMW and smash it, and because I feel its 1/2 your fault for letting me borrow it. I'll buy you a used Honda instead of a comparable beemer. You know your BMW depreciates 20% as soon as you drive it off the lot right?

The other fact of the matter is. Regardless if he buys me a new one or not. He is 100% responsible for getting mine repaired. If he has to shell out $200 just to find out wether or not it is repairable is a gamble he would have been willing to take, not me. Like I said, I know it needs an LCD, I don't know how much ATF is sitting on the main boards or cpu.
I may have goofed a little bit earlier. The laptop is splash resistant, not water (or atf) proof.



If this was my fault, and I did this to my neighbors laptop, I would do the exact same thing. I'd buy him a new one and the old one becomes mine. I wouldn't sit there and say "well because it's 3 years old i'm only going to give you this amount, take it or leave it". No wonder we are a sue happy nation... to many cheapskates unwilling to stand up and own situations for which they are responsible for.
 

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Using your BMW example, if I had a 2009 model and you smashed it up, the ONLY thing I would expect is a 2009 model replacement. Asking for a 2011 model is the greedy part.
 

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So, by your reasoning, if someone wrecks my car, I should demand their insurance company give me what I originally paid for the car and not what the current market value is? I think I'm going to go out and try to get into an accident so I can get 25K for my ten year old minivan. Thank you for the encouragement.
 

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Rockydude, what if a 2009 model was not locally available? What if you just couldn't get one? I can't exactly drive down the street to the used Durabook lot.

Would it be okay if I bought you one on EBAY? and when it showed up on your doorstep gave you a take it or leave it attitude regardless of the condition it showed up in. Because that is what alot of the guys are saying here.

Keep in mind i'd only pay for 1/2 the BMW. As it is 1/2 your fault for letting me borrow it.

Maybe the car is a bad example.

I love how you guys think i'm being a jerk about this. I'm really not.

I'm not necessarily "entitled" to a brand new one, I know that. But I am very entitled for a full repair of mine.
Repair is a gamble. If it needs new boards and an LCD repair could very well cost more than a new unit. Like I mentioned above, Durabook won't look at it for less than 200 bucks.
Potentially, the way it could go is that we send the laptop out with a check for 200 bucks and they call me in 3 weeks and say it is going to cost 1900 to fix it, or we can sell you a new one for 1500, and that 200 bucks won't go towards a replacement, only the repair because we have yours sitting here in parts.
 

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They are specialty laptops that are rugged and sealed against water.
Then how did the ATF get in there then ???. :confused:
Isn't water heavier than ATF Oil. :rolleyes:


You took advantage of a elderly person. :mad: You weren't due a brand new one !!
 

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Then how did the ATF get in there then ???. :confused:
Is water heavier than any oils. :rolleyes:


You took advantage of a elderly person. :mad: You weren't due a brand new one !!
It was special penetrating ATF.
 

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Just Jason said:
The other fact of the matter is. Regardless if he buys me a new one or not. He is 100% responsible for getting mine repaired. If he has to shell out $200 just to find out wether or not it is repairable is a gamble he would have been willing to take, not me. Like I said, I know it needs an LCD, I don't know how much ATF is sitting on the main boards or cpu.
I may have goofed a little bit earlier. The laptop is splash resistant, not water (or atf) proof.

I fixed it awhile back guys... Need to pay a little more attention.
 

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You took advantage of a elderly person. You weren't due a brand new one !!

This elderly person is 67.
Has a tattoo of a skull and dagger on 1 arm. A sailor jerry girl on the other arm. And a skull and crossbones below that with "death before dishonor" tattood below the crossbones.
He did 25+ in the Navy. He is very nice, as nice as they get.
But knowing that as big as I am, and without knowing how big you are, i'm pretty sure he could probably whoop both off our arses at the same time.

Just sayin....
Not every elderly person is some sort of mindless cripple.
 

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He is 100% responsible for getting mine repaired.
I still disagree on that .

Did he ask you to bring your lappy over to his garage or did you take it upon yourself to just bring it. ??

Jason, Do the right thing and do the 50 - 50 deal. :)
 

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I am not sure the neighbor owed you anything. This was an accident you both had a part in. How could the neighbor be responsible for the accident from across the room. He didn't have control of direction or even know the ATF was going to shoot out. Who sat the laptop down where it was sitting when the accident happened? This would be the more guilty party in my opinion. Proper measures should have been taken to protect the laptop by the owner if it is so vital and important The only way I think you can blame the neighbor is if you can prove he did it on purpose. Your neighbor owes you nothing, he should be commended for wanting to help you with the expense that your the ultimate burden of. The proper way to handle this would have been to contact 'your' insurance carrier. Although that doesn't mean insurance would pay for it either but it would have been worth a try.

If the neighbor had a lit candle on his tool bench and you knocked the candle over into a 5 gallon bucket of gasoline and blew up his house would you buy him a new house?
 
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